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Post by nudwig on Aug 31, 2020 12:59:02 GMT -6
www.leapwingaudio.com/rootone/Been demoing this morning, this thing is awesome! Still early testing with it but so far seems to integrate better than my other subharmonic processors.
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Post by m03 on Aug 31, 2020 14:05:15 GMT -6
So a more feature filled and better looking version of tools like bx_subsynth?
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Post by nudwig on Aug 31, 2020 15:31:31 GMT -6
Pretty much, seems a bit more elegant than other solutions. Here's a walkthru video I found informative
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 31, 2020 15:46:01 GMT -6
looks cool.
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Post by Ward on Sept 7, 2020 6:30:59 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question?
Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness?
Asking for friends.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 7, 2020 7:58:18 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. I’d start by asking your mastering engineer to not do that! |
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Post by Ward on Sept 7, 2020 9:36:13 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. I’d start by asking your mastering engineer to not do that! I've dealt with quite a few. We've had the HPF discussion before, ad nauseum. Respectfully, you may not like it, but it's commonplace. Remember Vinyl mastering? Everything used to be high-passed at 50hz to 60hz |
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Post by sean on Sept 7, 2020 9:46:57 GMT -6
Even with those filters on a mix buss/mastering chain a sub harmonic generator is useful for adding things that aren’t there on the source. I’ve definitely been given some kick tracks that have nothing going on in the low end and things like this have been a great tool.
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Post by drbill on Sept 7, 2020 10:40:21 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. Theater Subs!! Or even better, IMAX Subs!!! |
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Post by nudwig on Sept 7, 2020 11:48:27 GMT -6
I've been using it more for the way it lets the low end harmonics be thickened over adding crazy sub frequencies. There's a preset called 'Bass Phone Cut Through' I find helpful as a compliment/alternative to pushing a bunch of 6-800 on bass. Another called 'Vocal Chest' that's fun. Overall it just seems more controlled to me compared to Lowender and especially so compared to my DOD Meatbox pedal which goes from awesome to blow your speakers up really quick if you're not careful. Still demoing but will likely purchase.
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Post by notneeson on Sept 7, 2020 14:30:26 GMT -6
You can’t boost what’s not there. On the other hand, a little bit of 50hz can go a long way.
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Post by Ward on Sept 8, 2020 6:14:19 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. Theater Subs!! Or even better, IMAX Subs!!! You make a very good point. |
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Post by svart on Sept 8, 2020 20:31:51 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. Because the nonlinearity in the gear creates harmonics at intervals of the sub frequency. Those harmonics can trick the ear into thinking it heard the lower frequency even if it's not there. See "missing fundamental" tone generation. Andy Wallace used to push 40hz like crazy, only to high pass it later. The sub frequencies would cause the board to create higher harmonics.. |
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Post by Ward on Sept 9, 2020 5:48:20 GMT -6
Looks really cool . . . but like 'Derek Smalls' in 'This is Spinal Tap', do you mind if I ask a practical question? Why are we looking to generate sub-harmonics when we mix on speakers that only go as low as 40hz in the practical world, put HPFs on our 2-Busses at 28.7 to 30hz, and send to professional mastering engineers who repeat the process and sometimes even limit the low at 40hz and highs at 15khz to maximize loudness? Asking for friends. Because the nonlinearity in the gear creates harmonics at intervals of the sub frequency. Those harmonics can trick the ear into thinking it heard the lower frequency even if it's not there. See "missing fundamental" tone generation. Andy Wallace used to push 40hz like crazy, only to high pass it later. The sub frequencies would cause the board to create higher harmonics.. What's a board?  |
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