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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 11, 2020 11:27:24 GMT -6
Cool. 2/4 for $499 www.uaudio.com/audio-interfaces/apollo-solo.htmlUniversal Audio Apollo Solo Features: Thunderbolt 3 audio interface with 2 analog inputs and 2 analog outputs, plus 1 instrument input and a stereo headphone output Sounds amazing, with next-generation AD/DA for maximum fidelity Use outstanding UAD Powered Plug-ins for tracking and mixdown Preamps sound pristine, and Unison technology gives you spot-on emulations of classic preamps Includes Realtime Analog Classics plug-in bundle with accurate emulations of vintage analog hardware Thunderbolt gives you ultra-low latency and huge bandwidth for higher sample rates and track counts Compact, bus-powered design makes it perfect for mobile recording, mixing outside of your studio, and even performing live Compatible with UA’s LUNA software for ultra-tight hardware/software integration |
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Post by Guitar on Aug 11, 2020 11:54:27 GMT -6
Is this just a rebranding of the Arrow or does it have anything different?
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Post by phantom on Aug 11, 2020 12:09:42 GMT -6
Is this just a rebranding of the Arrow or does it have anything different? Probably just a rebranding. They are identical. And Arrow was a bad idea, anyway. |
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Post by Guitar on Aug 11, 2020 12:12:01 GMT -6
Is this just a rebranding of the Arrow or does it have anything different? Probably just a rebranding. They are identical. And Arrow was a bad idea, anyway. Yeah, I'm curious but not enough to jump on it. I guess it's the "cheap seats" at the UAD big game. The fact that they had to design "special" reduced plugins to work on the micro-DSP was a little bit disheartening. And you still have to buy them. Oh well. Not for me. But I'd like to hear the DAC to see how far they've come since the silver ones back in the day. |
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Post by phantom on Aug 11, 2020 12:15:09 GMT -6
Probably just a rebranding. They are identical. And Arrow was a bad idea, anyway. Yeah, I'm curious but not enough to jump on it. I guess it's the "cheap seats" at the UAD big game. The fact that they had to design "special" reduced plugins to work on the micro-DSP was a little bit disheartening. And you still have to buy them. Oh well. Not for me. But I'd like to hear the DAC to see how far they've come since the silver ones back in the day. That's a good question. I would like to know if this have the same converters as the Apollo X series. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 11, 2020 12:39:07 GMT -6
I bet they are...I had one guy tell me the arrow was not very good. But that one supposedly had the X converters too, right?
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Post by phantom on Aug 11, 2020 12:59:53 GMT -6
I think the Arrow has the mkII converters.
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Post by Quint on Aug 11, 2020 13:22:08 GMT -6
Probably just a rebranding. They are identical. And Arrow was a bad idea, anyway. Yeah, I'm curious but not enough to jump on it. I guess it's the "cheap seats" at the UAD big game. The fact that they had to design "special" reduced plugins to work on the micro-DSP was a little bit disheartening. And you still have to buy them. Oh well. Not for me. But I'd like to hear the DAC to see how far they've come since the silver ones back in the day. Micro DSP and reduced plugins? I haven't heard about any of this. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 11, 2020 13:37:17 GMT -6
Nice video, cus that’s what I do: walk around outside in laurel canyon with my laptop, cans, Apollo, guitar, bass, mikes, acoustic and ya know just hit record !  I actually liked the track and thought it showed off UA quality well ! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 11, 2020 13:39:45 GMT -6
I think it just has a single sharc chip, but plays regular ua plugs up to the limit of the one chip but if you are single tracking, and careful you could get 2-3 plugs per track and very good sound.
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Post by Guitar on Aug 11, 2020 13:41:40 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm curious but not enough to jump on it. I guess it's the "cheap seats" at the UAD big game. The fact that they had to design "special" reduced plugins to work on the micro-DSP was a little bit disheartening. And you still have to buy them. Oh well. Not for me. But I'd like to hear the DAC to see how far they've come since the silver ones back in the day. Micro DSP and reduced plugins? I haven't heard about any of this. I'll try to say it plainly without any sort of implied bias. These Arrow/Solo things are a single DSP chip of "UAD Power." Some of the "heavy" plugins like the Neve 1073, etc, wouldn't even want to run on it without maxing out the power, so they had to release a simple, reduced plugin, of the 1073 for example, that only has the preamp with no EQ section. You wouldn't have any more DSP left for mixing, or any other channels at that point. I think that plugin sold for about $100 or maybe more. And it was a separate expense for Neve 1073 owners. Just tried to look it up on the UA website and apparently it has been removed. Not sure what they're doing now. But that did happen in the past. |
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Post by sirthought on Aug 11, 2020 13:46:42 GMT -6
Apollo Solo TB3 is the Arrow rebranded. - TB3 bus powered only and is NOT backwards compatible with older TB ports, unlike other Apollo products. I think TB1 and TB2 don't allow for bus powering. So, you need a newer computer with the right hardware.
- Windows and Mac compatible.
Apollo Solo USB3 is same, except it's Windows only AND you have external power. (The other Apollo Twin USB is Windows only also.) - Preamps are the exact same as all UAD interfaces.
- The Arrow converters were not the exact same as on the Twin X. I don't think the space allows for the same hardware to pull it off. Still, really good if you're someone wanting a unit to throw in your backpack to take to a band space or a gig. And if you are a record-at-home type who'll send their files to a mix engineer then this more than works. Your songs won't suck because of the converters.
It's not aimed to be the top-line mix engineers portable solution. But With power supplies being such an important factor in the sound of pro gear, having something that is bus powered only is a bit of a head scratcher to me. And at $500 with only one DSP chip, it seems the budding engineer is just going to be out some money when they decide they need more and can't resell this thing for close to retail price and a satellite costs even more, but you can't get the benefits of tracking with Unison on the Satellite.
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Post by sirthought on Aug 11, 2020 14:06:57 GMT -6
I'll try to say it plainly without any sort of implied bias. These Arrow/Solo things are a single DSP chip of "UAD Power." Some of the "heavy" plugins like the Neve 1073, etc, wouldn't even want to run on it without maxing out the power, so they had to release a simple, reduced plugin, of the 1073 for example, that only has the preamp with no EQ section. You wouldn't have any more DSP left for mixing, or any other channels at that point. I think that plugin sold for about $100 or maybe more. And it was a separate expense for Neve 1073 owners. Just tried to look it up on the UA website and apparently it has been removed. Not sure what they're doing now. But that did happen in the past. This never happened the way you are saying. There are legacy versions of the 1073 EQ that are exactly what people got when UAD 1 was a thing. They are lower DSP and actually sound great. They are not as accurate as the latest 1073 preamp/EQ plugin, but they still have that Neve-like sound and can work in many situations when you don't want to use as much DSP. When the Arrow came out they did start to release some plugins that are less DSP hungry. The Pure Plate reverb, the Century Channel Strip, and yes, there is a Neve Preamp that emulates no hardware unit specifically, but is based off the 1290 preamp console module. |
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Post by Ned Ward on Aug 11, 2020 14:32:40 GMT -6
this is is the razor to get people into the UAD system, in hopes that they'll upgrade to a better interface, all the while buying UAD plugins (the blades).
I find it laughable that the headphones count as outputs making this a 2x4 interface instead of calling it what it is - a 2x2 interface with the obligatory headphone out.
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Post by Guitar on Aug 11, 2020 15:22:20 GMT -6
I'll try to say it plainly without any sort of implied bias. These Arrow/Solo things are a single DSP chip of "UAD Power." Some of the "heavy" plugins like the Neve 1073, etc, wouldn't even want to run on it without maxing out the power, so they had to release a simple, reduced plugin, of the 1073 for example, that only has the preamp with no EQ section. You wouldn't have any more DSP left for mixing, or any other channels at that point. I think that plugin sold for about $100 or maybe more. And it was a separate expense for Neve 1073 owners. Just tried to look it up on the UA website and apparently it has been removed. Not sure what they're doing now. But that did happen in the past. This never happened the way you are saying. There are legacy versions of the 1073 EQ that are exactly what people got when UAD 1 was a thing. They are lower DSP and actually sound great. They are not as accurate as the latest 1073 preamp/EQ plugin, but they still have that Neve-like sound and can work in many situations when you don't want to use as much DSP. When the Arrow came out they did start to release some plugins that are less DSP hungry. The Pure Plate reverb, the Century Channel Strip, and yes, there is a Neve Preamp that emulates no hardware unit specifically, but is based off the 1290 preamp console module. You're not saying anything that goes against what I understand. Unless I'm missing something. |
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