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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 31, 2020 9:12:08 GMT -6
Any new developments here? I have used the Tranzport for years. @popmamn pointed me towards new drivers (company folded) for Mojave, but I’ve gone to Catalina and it doesn’t work anymore. I love having a physical, tactile transport...but what are good alternatives? I could go the iPad route - any standard apps for daw control? Guess I could just go buy a wireless numeric keyboard.
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Post by stormymondays on Jul 31, 2020 9:21:31 GMT -6
Behringer (don’t laugh!)
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Post by nnajar on Jul 31, 2020 9:24:29 GMT -6
You must not be on PT. The PT control app is brilliant.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 31, 2020 11:11:59 GMT -6
Yeah the free PT control app is awesome. It's got pretty much all the controls my S6 has in it and more. Very nice.
But yeah I use an Avid S1 at home and the app. At work Im using an Avid S6. It's nice because both PT and Pyramix speak Eucon.
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Post by ericn on Jul 31, 2020 15:14:44 GMT -6
The big issue here is you can only do so much with HUI, and AVID won’t license Econ to other hardware manufacturers.
Now that big Yamaha controller is pretty cool for Cuba’s, Nuendo but I’m betting that’s not what you have in mind.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 31, 2020 15:29:47 GMT -6
Yeah downloaded the Avid Control app. Haven’t tried yet...but since I go between 4 different daws, I’ll probably have to settle with a numeric keyboard.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 31, 2020 15:49:01 GMT -6
The big issue here is you can only do so much with HUI, and AVID won’t license Econ to other hardware manufacturers. Now that big Yamaha controller is pretty cool for Cuba’s, Nuendo but I’m betting that’s not what you have in mind. Why would they license out the greatest thing they acquired that kept them alive? haha |
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Post by stormymondays on Jul 31, 2020 16:19:05 GMT -6
Yeah downloaded the Avid Control app. Haven’t tried yet...but since I go between 4 different daws, I’ll probably have to settle with a numeric keyboard. Get the small Behringer. The transport is great and you get a fader to write automation with. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 31, 2020 16:38:05 GMT -6
Well, it's for my remote recording when I'm away from my desk. I could run a cable, but wireless is better.
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Post by stormymondays on Jul 31, 2020 16:53:29 GMT -6
Well, it's for my remote recording when I'm away from my desk. I could run a cable, but wireless is better. Wireless keyboard for the win! |
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Post by popmann on Jul 31, 2020 19:00:39 GMT -6
Still use the Tranzport. Never stopped working in Cubase+Windows.  ...but, I keep trying different things--because it doesn't work with Mixbus. Literally not tracking with Mixbus because I can't use the Tranzport. Sucks--I've emplored them--the stupid Ardour it's based on HAS some kind of Tranzport implementation, but they never maybe finished it (from looking at the dev site?)...all it would take is finishing that-I volunteered to test it...crickets. I will give you my straight up advice for OSX: Buy a Blutooth NumPad. Make all your apps use Cubase's numPad implementation. When the day comes that I have to not use the Tranzport, it's what I'm doing. Mobile shit over IP is an inferior solution on a number of levels. TouchOSC if you really want to try is one of the generic ones--that I think you can just get templates for all your various DAWS. But, as I found, it isn't routable IP. Which meant DAW on ethernet, iPad on Wifi, no go...it also, unlike the Tranzport, requires setup/handshaking BS every session...eh...NumPad. They can't make that stop working. If it does because of BT version or something you get another newer NumPad...an iPhone/Ipad mic stand mount will hold one, too. It's been 20 years or something since I've had a recorder I couldn't grab something to control from wherever in my studio. The Akai remote was wired--which I extended when I moved in here...I can literally count on ONE hand the number of things I like(d) better about the "Cubase as DAW" move, and one was the Tranzport mounted on a mic stand (and also snaps off if need be)...and it seems just deserted as a PARADIGM...despite MORE home studios? |
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Post by wiz on Jul 31, 2020 19:28:01 GMT -6
I use logic remote app on my phone... my iPad... or my wireless keyboard to start stop, undo, have you tried those....?
Wireless keyboard route might be the go with Pro Tools?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by longscale on Jul 31, 2020 19:34:49 GMT -6
While typically I'm using an iPad and the Avid Control App with PT for anything where I'm at the mic (away from the mix position) and want to control the DAW; I did build a simple little 9-key keyboard so that when I'm at my mix position I can use that as a transport. It is nice to have dedicated/programmable buttons to smash instead of the keyboard or mouse. I also stuck LEDs under the keys for those times when I want to add some drama/mood to the simple little HW controller. I used this kit: keeb.io/collections/frontpage/products/bdn9-3x3-9-key-macropad-rotary-encoder-supportA fun little project that did not take a bunch of skill to build. If you don't want the fun of a build then I'd suggest a simple numpad. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 31, 2020 22:38:18 GMT -6
There’s part of me that thinks I should sell my vehicle and use the money to invest in inventing (a monkey could do it. Well, a smarter monkey than me that I could hire) a simple transport that works with every daw.
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Post by tkaitkai on Aug 1, 2020 0:53:34 GMT -6
I use TouchOSC (this can be configured for a bunch of different DAWs) on my iPhone with Reaper for recording vocals and it’s great. Kind of clunky to set up, but it definitely minimizes time spent racing back and forth between the computer and tracking space.
That said, when I get an iPad, I’m switching to PT Control immediately.
On a related note, it would be really nice to see UA do an iPhone app for Console/Luna.
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Post by schmalzy on Aug 1, 2020 8:54:57 GMT -6
Reaper has a web remote controller.
I haven't needed to use it but - from what it looks like - it's basically a screen you bring up on your phone/tablet that has buttons doing certain functions.
It'll be a key ingredient in my new studio location so I can be in the live room with the band and not in front of the computer.
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Post by Ward on Aug 1, 2020 8:57:05 GMT -6
Yeah downloaded the Avid Control app. Haven’t tried yet...but since I go between 4 different daws, I’ll probably have to settle with a numeric keyboard. Get the small Behringer. The transport is great and you get a fader to write automation with. Too late. It's a natural reaction whenever I see the 'B Word'. |
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Post by pouletdegrains on Aug 1, 2020 9:29:45 GMT -6
I am controlling my DAWs (Logic and Live) and my hardware synth and drum machines with Lemur, either on iPad or iPhone. This app clearly has a learning curve but is extremely flexible and offers unlimited customization. The user community offers useful templates.
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Post by keymod on Aug 1, 2020 10:43:18 GMT -6
Popmann, the Presonus Faderport supposedly has good Mixbus integration. Or the RuCo control?
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Post by popmann on Aug 1, 2020 13:47:28 GMT -6
Popmann, the Presonus Faderport supposedly has good Mixbus integration. Or the RuCo control? Quoting this because this is the Babel point on the issue. Neither unit is wireless. I don't need q control surface. They're hot even RELATED ....except that new market engineers have made it so by not getting the distinction. That was my “ah hah moment” on the subject. Most of the iOS apps function as control surfaces. See pix EVERYWHERE of users with iPads next to their keyboard/mouse. My (actual not emulated) MCU works fine with Mixbus. I think this is about how small people’s home studios ARE...little point in a commercial room—you have an engineer driving while you play wherever in the studio....no point in a spare bedroom with VIs-youre sitting in front of the computer for everything but vocals. If you've never used a Tranzport....heres my entire process to go across the room to the piano grab the mic stand with the TP mounted to it, park it where I nd it and hit any button (which initiates its handshaking connection)....done. Every year or so it will blink at me that the batteries are low, and I go grab another quad of AAs from the big Costco box we buy. Pop them in, it handshakes, back in bidness. |
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Post by popmann on Aug 1, 2020 13:54:09 GMT -6
There’s part of me that thinks I should sell my vehicle and use the money to invest in inventing (a monkey could do it. Well, a smarter monkey than me that I could hire) a simple transport that works with every daw. Do you use more than the transport/jog wheel? It should be simple. Tranzport ALSO has all those functions where you CAN adjust faders and pans and such....I use the mute on occasion—if I have a scratch track I want to reference, but thats not THAT important to me.... play, stop(rtz), jog wheel, loop, set marker, next/previous marker....basic transport controls. I keep an eye out for them making a BluTooth version of this www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deckThats seems ideal since you can customize it, and the custom graphics show on the keys. But....functionally not useful for this NOW, because its not wireless. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 1, 2020 16:26:49 GMT -6
There’s part of me that thinks I should sell my vehicle and use the money to invest in inventing (a monkey could do it. Well, a smarter monkey than me that I could hire) a simple transport that works with every daw. Do you use more than the transport/jog wheel? It should be simple. Tranzport ALSO has all those functions where you CAN adjust faders and pans and such....I use the mute on occasion—if I have a scratch track I want to reference, but thats not THAT important to me.... play, stop(rtz), jog wheel, loop, set marker, next/previous marker....basic transport controls. I keep an eye out for them making a BluTooth version of this www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deckThats seems ideal since you can customize it, and the custom graphics show on the keys. But....functionally not useful for this NOW, because its not wireless. I have tranzport. Would love to keep using it but it doesn’t work in Catalina. |
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Post by popmann on Aug 1, 2020 17:34:47 GMT -6
Do you use more than the transport/jog wheel? I have tranzport. Would love to keep using it but it doesn’t work in Catalina. Right--I know this...I was asking about when you DID use it, did you use the functions to select tracks and record enable and mute and change panning and such---the "mixer stuff"? It wouldn't be hard at ALL (I wouldn't think) to make a global transport control, either by MMC or maybe just acting as an MCU/HUI transport/wheel. Once you want to start scrolling aroudn the mixer and adjusting volumes and pans and such...then, it becomes a higher bar to get it "universal". Froeniter basically made plug ins for each DAW to make that universal, which is why it's NOT any more. IME, it's only fully functional in 64bit Cubendo on Windows...because they made a 64bit plug in (as that was one of the first 64bit DAWs) for them...and due to Microsoft's backward compatibility, stuff just still works. That reminds me--I haven't tested it with 10.5...fingers crossed... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 1, 2020 18:07:08 GMT -6
Yeah never really used anything but mute solo and track forward back and the transport buttons.
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Post by ericn on Aug 1, 2020 20:30:06 GMT -6
The obvious solution? RADAR with the excellent session controller!
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