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Post by notneeson on Jul 26, 2020 20:56:29 GMT -6
I am mixing 4 songs for a client who gave me his session drive to work off of. I had been wondering what all the random noise in his vocals was coming from and now that I have noticed how loud this drive is, that has to be the culprit.
But, you know it's pro gear cuz it says Studio on it...
Suffice to say, I have never been a Glyph fan.
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Post by drbill on Jul 26, 2020 21:13:59 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Jul 27, 2020 1:46:14 GMT -6
Sounds like it might BE the Glyph fan that's causing the problem! 
Which leads to the question, what are everyone's preferred drives ?
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Post by bluegrassdan on Jul 27, 2020 3:01:38 GMT -6
I’ve had the fans in Glyph drives go bad (as well as the drives themselves.)
I really like Other World Computing (OWC) drives from MacSales.com
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Post by Guitar on Jul 27, 2020 7:34:22 GMT -6
My Glyph Studio has always been very quiet. Sure, fans can get noisy, maybe try to clean it out or something. Or put in a new fan.
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Post by mulmany on Jul 27, 2020 8:30:41 GMT -6
I’ve had the fans in Glyph drives go bad (as well as the drives themselves.) I really like Other World Computing (OWC) drives from MacSales.com I have been an OWC drive guy since 2004. Original FW400 units, and they still work. The only issue I have had has been with a SSD drive. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 27, 2020 8:51:18 GMT -6
My Glyph Studio has always been very quiet. Sure, fans can get noisy, maybe try to clean it out or something. Or put in a new fan. Love your DIY spirit, perhaps I’ll recommend that to my client. My margin on mixing is thin enough as it is, I can’t be fixing his gear! I also get annoyed at how heavy this Glyph is! One of my favorite tracking spots is up two flights of stairs. This is like the cross fit approved HD. FWIW, in the robust external drive market I have good feedback for Avastor drives. Light weight, quiet, and reliable. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 27, 2020 8:55:06 GMT -6
Glyph is one of those companies who had out lived its usefulness.
Once upon a time when a Seagate Cheetah 7200rpm 20meg spinner drive was lust worthy we need them. In those days (think PT3-5 TDM) SCSI bridge sets, PSUs, Chassis venting and Drive QC; were all very much make or break issues. Boy did not addressing these issues mean break!
Now most of these issues don’t really mean anything in the age of SSD. And yes this old Glyph guy has bought most of his drives from OWC for at least 15 years.
Now to the issue at hand. Open that Glyph Chassis and pull the drive and try hooking up directly to the computer. If using a laptop or Mac Mini or similar buy a ide to USB or FW bridge and hook it up without chassis.
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Post by popmann on Jul 27, 2020 9:06:12 GMT -6
I thunk one mightve simply bought the wrong unit. I think they make consumer faster quieter units. If its really the fan, its broken and cleanable/replaceable. But, id bet “weird little noises” are write head noise potentially spliced in a comp’d vocal. Did he TUNE his vocal? Even worse, those little bits will through a lot of algorithms wonky....
Mine sounds like a bucket of bolts in a vacuum. But, thats irrelevant, becuase its the backup drive. The reason it IS that way is that they use enterprise (sever) class Hitachi drives whose beneift is their nearly non existent failure rate. Not quiet. not speed. Mine is a Raid1 chasiss, so there are TWO of them constantly realigning wiring and self defragging....so, twice as noisy in a way,
....but, I paid extra for the noise. Literally. For the enterprise class drive model, at least. I bought after I lost literally 4 drives in a couple years....WD and Seagate....then a 128gb thumbdrive went....i needed a consolidated backup solution that was more robust.
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Post by swafford on Jul 27, 2020 9:44:01 GMT -6
I've had OWC drive fans and drives go bad. I use 3 of them for back up on our house server (data, photo, music) and each of us has a OWC portable for phone and laptop use. Great drives at a decent price.
I use a pair of Glyph Studios in my barn (one for data one for back up) and before those Glyph whatever the model was. The Studios are noiseless, but I imagine the fans on them will also go bad as will the drives.
Like car tires going flat, drives fail. When it happens, it's something you quietly planned for or noisily complain about.
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Post by Ward on Jul 27, 2020 15:19:25 GMT -6
OWC and Western 1 and 2 for me. And Glyph? Gave up on them in 1997 and have never gone back.
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Post by drbill on Jul 27, 2020 22:17:03 GMT -6
I really like Other World Computing (OWC) drives from MacSales.com That's what I use. I like the Western Digital Blacks. Those have been bullet proof for me. |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 28, 2020 8:06:41 GMT -6
On a slightly different path (no pun intended): I use a cloning dock containing a pair of SSDs in it. USB connection. Flawless thus far. And not expensive!
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Post by ericn on Jul 28, 2020 8:53:54 GMT -6
On a slightly different path (no pun intended): I use a cloning dock containing a pair of SSDs in it. USB connection. Flawless thus far. And not expensive! -09 Love SSD’s for work drives, but get a spinner for long term archiving! |
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Post by svart on Jul 28, 2020 9:03:27 GMT -6
Wait, are you saying that you think the mechanical noise is somehow affecting the digital data?
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Post by svart on Jul 28, 2020 9:06:21 GMT -6
On a slightly different path (no pun intended): I use a cloning dock containing a pair of SSDs in it. USB connection. Flawless thus far. And not expensive! -09 Love SSD’s for work drives, but get a spinner for long term archiving! The way the quantum tunnels work in SSDs, they start losing bits in as little as a few weeks if they're left unpowered, so yeah, terrible for long term unpowered storage. Disk manager drivers do upkeep on the data and keep it error free when the machines are on, so there's very little loss if used regularly. |
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Post by popmann on Jul 28, 2020 9:12:50 GMT -6
Wait, are you saying that you think the mechanical noise is somehow affecting the digital data? I could be wrong, but i think he means the guy used this as his travking drive, thus it was in the room with the vocal or acoustic mic....thus the whine and/or ratta tat tat made it onto the vocal audio. |
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Post by svart on Jul 28, 2020 9:41:37 GMT -6
Wait, are you saying that you think the mechanical noise is somehow affecting the digital data? I could be wrong, but i think he means the guy used this as his travking drive, thus it was in the room with the vocal or acoustic mic....thus the whine and/or ratta tat tat made it onto the vocal audio. Ah ok that makes more sense. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 28, 2020 9:57:37 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but i think he means the guy used this as his travking drive, thus it was in the room with the vocal or acoustic mic....thus the whine and/or ratta tat tat made it onto the vocal audio. Ah ok that makes more sense. Yes, home recordist in a spare bedroom. |
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