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Post by klauth on Jul 23, 2020 15:01:35 GMT -6
What's your budget for the next daw computer in your studio ?
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Post by svart on Jul 23, 2020 15:59:05 GMT -6
Probably around 800-1000$. I'm doing pretty well on my 6 year old I5 though, so maybe a few more years before I feel like I should preemptively replace it.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 23, 2020 16:21:39 GMT -6
Same ballpark here, $600-1,000 depending on if you can reuse parts, etc. I'm talking about building your own PC, which is what I do.
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Post by thirdeye on Jul 23, 2020 18:49:09 GMT -6
For the last 15 years, I've used studio computers I've built (3 x PCs-last one I used for almost 10 years). Recently we purchased a refurb HP Z800 with dual 6 core processors and 24G of ram for less than $500. We added our own hard drives. I am really loving this computer!! But, I am old school, and cheap, Ha!! I'm still on Pro Tools HD 10.3.10 (HD6 in Magma Chassis).
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 24, 2020 2:56:00 GMT -6
Maybe 1K for another mac pro 5.1 there is no way that I will buy one of the overpriced new macs.
Hell needs to freeze over before I buy a mac screen and I need to pay extra 1 k for the stand....
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Post by svart on Jul 24, 2020 8:44:37 GMT -6
Same ballpark here, $600-1,000 depending on if you can reuse parts, etc. I'm talking about building your own PC, which is what I do. Same. I've been an Intel user for some time now, but since AMD has finally built a chip that can beat intel in multithreading, I'm thinking AMD for the next one. 300$ for Ryzen 7 3800x 200$ for motherboard 100$ Samsung 970 evo NVMe SSD (OS drive) 200$ 2x WD black 2TB HDD (data drives, possibly in raid) 200$ Power supply 50$ video card Reuse rack chassis. So about 1K or so, but often there are bundle deals and the new Ryzen 4K series will have integrated graphics. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jul 24, 2020 16:42:11 GMT -6
Same ballpark here, $600-1,000 depending on if you can reuse parts, etc. I'm talking about building your own PC, which is what I do. Same. I've been an Intel user for some time now, but since AMD has finally built a chip that can beat intel in multithreading, I'm thinking AMD for the next one. 300$ for Ryzen 7 3800x 200$ for motherboard 100$ Samsung 970 evo NVMe SSD (OS drive) 200$ 2x WD black 2TB HDD (data drives, possibly in raid) 200$ Power supply 50$ video card Reuse rack chassis. So about 1K or so, but often there are bundle deals and the new Ryzen 4K series will have integrated graphics. Ryzen still has worse latency performance than Intel. Performance below 128 buffer will suffer. I would definitely have built a Ryzen PC if it wasn't for this. |
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Post by svart on Jul 24, 2020 17:01:57 GMT -6
Same. I've been an Intel user for some time now, but since AMD has finally built a chip that can beat intel in multithreading, I'm thinking AMD for the next one. 300$ for Ryzen 7 3800x 200$ for motherboard 100$ Samsung 970 evo NVMe SSD (OS drive) 200$ 2x WD black 2TB HDD (data drives, possibly in raid) 200$ Power supply 50$ video card Reuse rack chassis. So about 1K or so, but often there are bundle deals and the new Ryzen 4K series will have integrated graphics. Ryzen still has worse latency performance than Intel. Performance below 128 buffer will suffer. I would definitely have built a Ryzen PC if it wasn't for this. Good to know. We'll have to see what the next series performance looks like to see if it's any better. |
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Post by klauth on Jul 24, 2020 19:04:44 GMT -6
Amy mac guys here taking the big plunge....to the mac pro ?
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jul 24, 2020 22:00:01 GMT -6
Ryzen still has worse latency performance than Intel. Performance below 128 buffer will suffer. I would definitely have built a Ryzen PC if it wasn't for this. Good to know. We'll have to see what the next series performance looks like to see if it's any better. Yes, I am keen to see what numbers look like. I'm on a 8600k which should last me a few years. But I am happy for more competition in the marketplace. |
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Post by drumrec on Jul 25, 2020 4:26:32 GMT -6
Amy mac guys here taking the big plunge....to the mac pro ? I bought the latest MBP 16 "with a little extra a few months ago. Completely crazy portable studio. Maybe not the optimal one in the big studio (regarding the fan sound). At the same time, it is easy to put it in an insulation box with ventilation. But it can handle as much as preferably without the processor even showing that it works. It costs a some €, yes. Delivers it without hiccups .... Ohhhh YES! |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 25, 2020 11:00:15 GMT -6
Same ballpark here, $600-1,000 depending on if you can reuse parts, etc. I'm talking about building your own PC, which is what I do. Same. I've been an Intel user for some time now, but since AMD has finally built a chip that can beat intel in multithreading, I'm thinking AMD for the next one. 300$ for Ryzen 7 3800x 200$ for motherboard 100$ Samsung 970 evo NVMe SSD (OS drive) 200$ 2x WD black 2TB HDD (data drives, possibly in raid) 200$ Power supply 50$ video card Reuse rack chassis. So about 1K or so, but often there are bundle deals and the new Ryzen 4K series will have integrated graphics. Hi svart.... May I ask about your rack chassis? Brand, 1U or 2U, likes/dislikes? TIA, -09 |
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Post by svart on Jul 25, 2020 11:36:12 GMT -6
Same. I've been an Intel user for some time now, but since AMD has finally built a chip that can beat intel in multithreading, I'm thinking AMD for the next one. 300$ for Ryzen 7 3800x 200$ for motherboard 100$ Samsung 970 evo NVMe SSD (OS drive) 200$ 2x WD black 2TB HDD (data drives, possibly in raid) 200$ Power supply 50$ video card Reuse rack chassis. So about 1K or so, but often there are bundle deals and the new Ryzen 4K series will have integrated graphics. Hi svart.... May I ask about your rack chassis? Brand, 1U or 2U, likes/dislikes? TIA, -09 The truth is that I got it out of the trash at a place I worked years ago. It doesn't have any markings or brand on it. Sorry. It's a 4u chassis so I can fit my DSP cards straight up in it. |
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Post by Guitar on Jul 25, 2020 15:49:07 GMT -6
I also have a 4U that has been trusty for years, ARK I think was the brand, about a hundred bucks. These brands come and go though. It seems like there are some nice newer options when I've looked lately.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 25, 2020 17:11:20 GMT -6
My needs are extreme low end. So around $200 is fine, when the time comes. Either new Windows 10 laptop... Or refurbished, from Discount Electronics. I have an 11 year old Toshiba Satellite/Windows 7, I record with. Still going strong!  Chris |
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Post by drumsound on Jul 25, 2020 17:32:46 GMT -6
Every time I see this thread title it stresses me out, because I know I ll need to do this sooner than later.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 25, 2020 17:37:05 GMT -6
Fortunately Tony, you do such excellent work in both the recording areas, and drumming... I bet it'll all work out great. Chris |
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 26, 2020 4:39:29 GMT -6
My needs are extreme low end. So around $200 is fine, when the time comes. Either new Windows 10 laptop... Or refurbished, from Discount Electronics. I have an 11 year old Toshiba Satellite/Windows 7, I record with. Still going strong! Chris
This is my mind set too...
I don't have to go for the latest software all the time. I wasted a hundred of hours with every mayor update because it was full of bugs. It feels like I am a useful idiot for Apple Inc. to report their bad work. Not to forget to mention its wasted lifetime.
Now I see myself using lesser plug ins than before because a small desk is coming again....
I don't see myself investing in software unless they make a big step forward again.
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Post by popmann on Jul 26, 2020 11:14:18 GMT -6
My NEXT computer budget? On my schedule, you're asking me to predict a 2028 purchase? I'm not sure I'd bet on my needing any kind of recording device in 2028. Given the work I've done with this two year old build, I could make an argument I didn't need a 2018 build. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 26, 2020 16:41:01 GMT -6
Eventually my loaded Westmere Mac Pro will bite the dust and I will buy a new cheese grater. So, I'm told it's going to be $25K to get beyond where I am now.
<sigh> that Ford better last me another 10 years! (cross referencing my last post to GW Lee on WHat's the latest gear thread)
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Post by ericn on Jul 26, 2020 16:51:55 GMT -6
Eventually my loaded Westmere Mac Pro will bite the dust and I will buy a new cheese grater. So, I'm told it's going to be $25K to get beyond where I am now. <sigh> that Ford better last me another 10 years! (cross referencing my last post to GW Lee on WHat's the latest gear thread) I’m waiting for the folks at AVID to port HDX to IOS so I don’t need a computer 😁 |
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Post by Ward on Jul 26, 2020 18:28:10 GMT -6
ericn, now you're on to something!
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Post by drumsound on Jul 27, 2020 0:32:05 GMT -6
Fortunately Tony, you do such excellent work in both the recording areas, and drumming... I bet it'll all work out great. Chris Aw, thanks buddy! |
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Post by ericn on Jul 27, 2020 7:24:57 GMT -6
ericn, now you're on to something! Somebody has to do something like it! I mean more and more are using some kind of DSP for their own plugins and low latency mixers so why not just run the whole thing in the interface on DSP? Yeah it seams like a step backwards but just think how easy support would be! Plus you could go wireless and the IPad would just be your display/ controller. I know live guys who are running shows completely from the IPad so why can’t we bring it to the studio ? |
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Post by Omicron9 on Jul 28, 2020 7:53:24 GMT -6
I also have a 4U that has been trusty for years, ARK I think was the brand, about a hundred bucks. These brands come and go though. It seems like there are some nice newer options when I've looked lately. Thanks, gentlemen. I've seen some of late that are 1U which are intriguing. I don't have any cards, so a 1U rack case could work. Kind regards, -09 |
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