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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2020 11:19:12 GMT -6
Hey Guys, Had a killer 72 Fender Telecaster in studio the other day, but I just couldn't get any decent tone mic'ing it up. Just sounded like paper, no matter what I did. Any suggestions?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2020 11:19:56 GMT -6
P.S. The high pass on the mic was set flat...
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Post by ragan on Jul 22, 2020 11:29:33 GMT -6
What’s the amp/mic situation?
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Post by christopher on Jul 22, 2020 11:36:46 GMT -6
Maybe try gaffing the mic to the back of the headstock? Gorgeous guitar. Seth Lover made those pickups too, after Gibson treated him like a warehouse worker.
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Post by christopher on Jul 22, 2020 11:55:34 GMT -6
Thought it might be a joke to go with with the cool pic. Now thinking about it yeah a lot of times Tele in general can record with a giant lack of lows. The WRHB extend higher so they a brighter, snappier. The signature will have more of a brighter, fizzy top sound to it, also a beefy humbucker style low end. It’s personally one of my favorites.
The Andy Johns tip I learned from live guys and probably pre-dates him.. imagine 57.. For brighter sound you aim for the dust cap. For darker sound you aim at the edge of the woofer. Andy Johns liked 2x57 in 45 degree XY style, one at the dustcap, the other at the woofer edge. Then blend dark/bright to taste. There’s a YouTube vid he did.
You can use the same idea with any mic.
And with guitar.. it’s all about placement. Close mic anywhere on the speaker can sound like garbage, sounds like phase canceling, and usually there’s one hard to find spot where it’s exceptionally warm. It takes forever to find it, I might have to move a mic 10 times. That’s why Johns invented his 2 mic technique, he was sick of looking for it.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2020 12:35:34 GMT -6
Maybe try gaffing the mic to the back of the headstock? Gorgeous guitar. Seth Lover made those pickups too, after Gibson treated him like a warehouse worker. Yes! This is the advice I was looking for. Absolutely a joke. I went to send the pic to my buddie this morning to show him the guitar and thought the mic placement was funny in the shot.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 22, 2020 12:37:50 GMT -6
What’s the amp/mic situation? Just that Shure KSM27 about a foot away from the guitar...as pictured. ...through the amp it sounded balls though. Ran it through my usual guitar chain. Modded Marshall JCM2000 > Mesa Recto 4x12 (in my iso booth) > Double mic'd with a 57 and 906 > CAPI VP28's > CAPI BT50's > Focusrite Red3.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 22, 2020 14:22:51 GMT -6
Did you try pulling the mic back about a foot? I generally don't find a very close-miced speaker to sound very balanced. Sometimes you want that, but others you don't.
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Post by svart on Jul 22, 2020 14:40:34 GMT -6
Jokes aside, I knew a guy who tried to record his electric guitar with a mic and complained it was too quiet. When I asked why, he plainly said that the amp was too loud to record.
WTF.
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Post by Ward on Jul 22, 2020 14:59:25 GMT -6
Mic the sound hole. you have to remove the neck pickup to access it
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Post by mulmany on Jul 22, 2020 16:12:50 GMT -6
Jokes aside, I knew a guy who tried to record his electric guitar with a mic and complained it was too quiet. When I asked why, he plainly said that the amp was too loud to record. WTF. I have recorded a client's Gretch archtop via mic on his last two albums. It's a little different situation, but not quite as quiet as a solid electric!
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 22, 2020 20:15:34 GMT -6
I've miced a Ric 12-string. Sounded great sitting tall and out to the sides, almost like a mandolin sprinkled into a dense mix for some ear candy.
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Post by schmalzy on Jul 22, 2020 22:47:31 GMT -6
One of my favorite bass tones I ever got was my Washburn bass close mic'd near the bridge with a low signal-to-noise-ratio cheap LDC.
Blend that with the DI and I had something pretty interesting!
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Post by Guitar on Jul 28, 2020 14:36:08 GMT -6
Once in a great while that tone can be used, I've done it before. Works better with hollow body guitars obviously.
I think I've heard of people blending it in with the amp tone sometimes.
Nice guitar.
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