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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 14, 2020 16:06:47 GMT -6
I've enjoyed Reverb a lot. It's great as a buyer usually. Seller...not so much. But I've landed some killer deals on Reverb.
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Post by Tbone81 on Jul 14, 2020 18:37:25 GMT -6
I always thought getting rid of PayPal was a blessing. Reverb holding my money for a few days was way better than PayPal routinely holding my eBay money for 21 days, for no reason at all. I have never in 15 years had PayPal hold my money unless I owed them money or there was a charge back. But I have been waiting a week for my money from reverb and the other person already has their equipment. Good for the buyer but as the seller I don’t feel confident. That sucks. My experience has been the opposite though. PayPal has held my money more times than I can count over the past 10-15 years or so. They (Reverb and PayPal) should at least give you a reason for the hold up. It always seems so arbitrary.
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Post by svart on Jul 14, 2020 18:48:00 GMT -6
I don't think personal sales should be taxed. If I buy here/GS/Craigslist/Facebook, I'm not paying tax. Don't say that too loud...they'll be coming for that too. Technically you're supposed to report ALL income to the IRS.. If you have a yard/garage sale or your kids sell lemonade on the sidewalk, you're supposed to report it.. And yeah, they've already tried figuring out how to tax all online sales, including places like Craigslist.. but fortunately the government concluded that it's not yet Technically feasible. But then again, they want all these online payment places like venmo and square to report transactions directly to the IRS so they can build profiles of transactions and use algorithms to figure out who's selling things on the sly and not reporting..
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Post by svart on Jul 14, 2020 19:35:53 GMT -6
Also, some auditor for the IRS found that when he researched most people's spending habits, they typically had more dollar transactions than they reported income for, and it wasn't debt based either.
For cash businesses, or people who work for tips/cash, it was almost 40% more..
So you can see that they're *very* interested in figuring out ways to get at the transactions of people where the true amount of money resides.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 14, 2020 19:36:47 GMT -6
Reverb screwed me in the very first transaction I ever had with them by cancelling my purchase within literally a minute of my payment without any notice because they claimed it was suspicious. When I asked why they thought it was suspicious they said they could not divulge that information.
This cost me $70 in non-refundable currency exchange fees.
After being forced to jump through several hoops including having to send them a scan of my Australian driver's licence (which I was not comfortable with) I was finally given the all clear and the purchase went through the second time along with another $70 currency exchange fee.
I protested that I had been charged twice for the currency exchange fees which could have been avoided if they had contacted me before arbitrarily cancelling my first transaction.
I said they should at least deduct the $70 off their charges to me.
They said it wasn't their problem and basically to suck it up.
So yeah. FUCK REVERB!
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Post by ericn on Jul 14, 2020 21:25:39 GMT -6
Reverb screwed me in the very first transaction I ever had with them by cancelling my purchase within literally a minute of my payment without any notice because they claimed it was suspicious. When I asked why they thought it was suspicious they said they could not divulge that information.
This cost me $70 in non-refundable currency exchange fees.
After being forced to jump through several hoops including having to send them a scan of my Australian driver's licence (which I was not comfortable with) I was finally given the all clear and the purchase went through the second time along with another $70 currency exchange fee.
I protested that I had been charged twice for the currency exchange fees which could have been avoided if they had contacted me before arbitrarily cancelling my first transaction.
I said they should at least deduct the $70 off their charges to me.
They said it wasn't their problem and basically to suck it up.
So yeah. FUCK REVERB! This why you use Amex for large purchase’s ask to speak to a manager when something like this happens, tell them “ you will solve this problem or my next call is to Amex to dispute this” if they don’t charge back you call Amex! Suddenly somebody at Reverb is having a worse day than you!
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Post by klauth on Jul 14, 2020 22:33:44 GMT -6
I recently bought a snare for $3,600, that ended up costing me $4,850 with VAT and all kinds of hidden charges. Sad thing is, it showed up damaged because the seller poorly packaged it. I made repairs on my own and left it at that. Then, reverb sends me a review request. And I gave the seller a poor review due to what happened. I never asked for compensation from any party involved. But I did give a poor review of the seller...which REVERB asked me to change to a better one! Actually badgered me!
REVERB is non credible at this point for me. This was my first experience with them. I no longer believe any of the posted reviews on their site, due to my experiace and seriously dont recomend using them to buy your gear from. Their a shady organization, to put it lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 23:01:45 GMT -6
i had a similar experience as the above poster, i 'purchased', an LA-2A but the seller
had sold the same unit 3 or 4 times over already on Reverb..
Once i had received my payment back via Paypal (took weeks),
the option to leave the seller feedback had been deleted by Reverb. I have purchased a few killer deals in the past though..
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Post by hadaja on Jul 14, 2020 23:38:16 GMT -6
Reverb uses a few of my photos to review gear. I am guessing that i should be watermarking them. But i have had no problems touch wood using Reverb over the last few years. It edges out Ebay even with the price rise. But being in a limited market in Australia we dont get a lot of options like The USA does.
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Post by Ward on Jul 15, 2020 7:12:31 GMT -6
Etsy subscribers get free stuff. Maybe we'll start getting monthly free stuff too, like guitars strings, picks, drum sticks etc?
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Post by teejay on Jul 15, 2020 7:53:12 GMT -6
Etsy subscribers get free stuff. Maybe we'll start getting monthly free stuff too, like guitars strings, picks, drum sticks etc? Ward, good one! Wait...you are joking, right? If not, then I'm worried about you.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 15, 2020 8:42:11 GMT -6
I recently bought a snare for $3,600, that ended up costing me $4,850 with VAT and all kinds of hidden charges. Sad thing is, it showed up damaged because the seller poorly packaged it. I made repairs on my own and left it at that. Then, reverb sends me a review request. And I gave the seller a poor review due to what happened. I never asked for compensation from any party involved. But I did give a poor review of the seller...which REVERB asked me to change to a better one! Actually badgered me! REVERB is non credible at this point for me. This was my first experience with them. I no longer believe any of the posted reviews on their site, due to my experiace and seriously dont recomend using them to buy your gear from. Their a shady organization, to put it lightly. What snare? How many are you up to now?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 15, 2020 8:51:26 GMT -6
I have had friends sell on Reverb and get royally screwed by buyer making false claims about damage etc..
It was very obvious the Reverb was not going to support the seller and they didn’t. I called and spoke to someone about the inconsistency why support a buyer who was misrepresenting the situation: corporate blah, blah, blah, made me reconsider why would I use them ?
I have used Paypal dispute mechanism a number of times, each time due to a difficult client, manipulating situation: Paypal backed me 100%.
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Post by tourtelot on Jul 15, 2020 9:02:57 GMT -6
There is a "Reverb-like" site on the internet that I saw recently, that has lower fees and (IIRC) collects no sales tax. I can't remember what it is called and it will probably be forced to comply soon but maybe, for a few months or so, it will afford a refuge. Anyone know the site I am referring to?
There are still a few states that aren't being forced to collect sales tax (why is that?) and I recently made a substantial purchase at a pro audio store and saved "many" hundreds of dollars in uncollected sales tax. The salesman told me that they would be forced to collect sale tax in the very near future.
I sell on a number of platforms and while the Reverb fee-raise bothers me, they are still the site with the exposure for the items that I sell. I have had, for the most part, very good experience on Reverb both as a buyer and a seller. That, of course, could change with one bad one.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 15, 2020 10:28:41 GMT -6
Some of these bad experiences that people are describing could happen with ebay or reverb. There are just some bad mama jamas out there trying to sneak one over you. Could happen anywhere.
The worst two I've ever had were on ebay but I got over it. And yeah, buyers can screw sellers over too, obviously.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 15, 2020 10:53:42 GMT -6
Facebook works great locally, and the last 3 or 4 items I sold were on Pensado's Gear Exchange. No problems at all, and no fees.
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Post by klauth on Jul 15, 2020 11:05:52 GMT -6
I recently bought a snare for $3,600, that ended up costing me $4,850 with VAT and all kinds of hidden charges. Sad thing is, it showed up damaged because the seller poorly packaged it. I made repairs on my own and left it at that. Then, reverb sends me a review request. And I gave the seller a poor review due to what happened. I never asked for compensation from any party involved. But I did give a poor review of the seller...which REVERB asked me to change to a better one! Actually badgered me! REVERB is non credible at this point for me. This was my first experience with them. I no longer believe any of the posted reviews on their site, due to my experiace and seriously dont recomend using them to buy your gear from. Their a shady organization, to put it lightly. What snare? How many are you up to now? Actually down to 67, The Snare was a VK Danny Carey cast bronze. (40 pounds)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 11:18:24 GMT -6
Reverb screwed me in the very first transaction I ever had with them by cancelling my purchase within literally a minute of my payment without any notice because they claimed it was suspicious. When I asked why they thought it was suspicious they said they could not divulge that information.
This cost me $70 in non-refundable currency exchange fees.
After being forced to jump through several hoops including having to send them a scan of my Australian driver's licence (which I was not comfortable with) I was finally given the all clear and the purchase went through the second time along with another $70 currency exchange fee.
I protested that I had been charged twice for the currency exchange fees which could have been avoided if they had contacted me before arbitrarily cancelling my first transaction.
I said they should at least deduct the $70 off their charges to me.
They said it wasn't their problem and basically to suck it up.
So yeah. FUCK REVERB! This why you use Amex for large purchase’s ask to speak to a manager when something like this happens, tell them “ you will solve this problem or my next call is to Amex to dispute this” if they don’t charge back you call Amex! Suddenly somebody at Reverb is having a worse day than you! Amex is much worse than they used to be. I know a few people who had their credit card information stolen and Amex lagged for months. They used to drop the charges right away which they should given their higher fees. A couple were balling above the normal cards. They switched to Visa issued by a good bank. Good banks tend to deal with stolen cards better. Amex is better for defective merchandise.
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Post by Ward on Jul 15, 2020 12:03:44 GMT -6
Etsy subscribers get free stuff. Maybe we'll start getting monthly free stuff too, like guitars strings, picks, drum sticks etc? Ward, good one! Wait...you are joking, right? If not, then I'm worried about you. My license to practice humor may be in jeopardy but I'm still telling jokes!!
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Post by tourtelot on Jul 15, 2020 12:37:04 GMT -6
Oh, and going on Facebook for ANYTHING? Not this guy! That is a site I happily say "f**k you" to.
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Post by mattbroiler on Jul 15, 2020 19:23:38 GMT -6
I've done pretty well on REverb definitely buying and selling too...eBay not so much. Not doing a whole lot of buying or selling at this point.
Etsy has a 5% fee so I have been expecting them to hike the fee ever since they took over. So nice of them to help us all "grow together" or whatever it was their email said.
sorry to hear people have had all of these bad scams go down, it seems like international transactions open up more areas to be exploited. I have only bought from USA Canada and only sold to the lower 48 states and Reverb transactions/interactions have been less scammy than eBay for sure.
So if I sell audio gear (or anything) for less money than I bought it for do I get to declare that as a personal or business income loss? Cause I sure ain't making anything off selling, yes I get paid but usually it's less not more than I paid in the first place. How does that constitute "income"?
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 15, 2020 19:31:12 GMT -6
I've done pretty well on REverb definitely buying and selling too...eBay not so much. Not doing a whole lot of buying or selling at this point. Etsy has a 5% fee so I have been expecting them to hike the fee ever since they took over. So nice of them to help us all "grow together" or whatever it was their email said. sorry to hear people have had all of these bad scams go down, it seems like international transactions open up more areas to be exploited. I have only bought from USA Canada and only sold to the lower 48 states and Reverb transactions/interactions have been less scammy than eBay for sure. So if I sell audio gear (or anything) for less money than I bought it for do I get to declare that as a personal or business income loss? Cause I sure ain't making anything off selling, yes I get paid but usually it's less not more than I paid in the first place. How does that constitute "income"? It counts as income in the same way that what you buy for your business counts as a business expense. If the item in question costs enough, or is a durable enough good, it should perhaps be listed as an asset, which has a predictable depreciation schedule depending on what the item is.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 19, 2020 19:14:00 GMT -6
Terrible time to raise prices. AMAZINGLY stupid!
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Post by Ward on Jul 22, 2020 9:10:13 GMT -6
Terrible time to raise prices. AMAZINGLY stupid! It's owned by an investment fund and operated like one now, as well. Cannot say I expected any behavior different to that when I heard it had changed hands. I was one of the first 100 members. Once upon a time in a land of fairytales, loyalty mattered as well... but I wax poetic. Later.
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Post by ericn on Jul 22, 2020 9:45:40 GMT -6
It's owned by an investment fund and operated like one now, as well. Cannot say I expected any behavior different to that when I heard it had changed hands. I was one of the first 100 members. Once upon a time in a land of fairytales, loyalty mattered as well... but I wax poetic. Later. This is a combination of 2 things these funds have an absolutely terrible track record with retail and pro audio / MI! Don’t worry they will kill it in 5 years or less. Anybody remember the auction site GC bought and killed in less than a year!
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