moze
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Post by moze on Jul 4, 2020 15:36:56 GMT -6
Looks like he must be going fully ITB?
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Post by sirthought on Jul 5, 2020 5:42:26 GMT -6
Wow
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Post by Ward on Jul 5, 2020 7:16:00 GMT -6
Looks like he must be going fully ITB? Or retiring? Or maybe just using the remote online service that CLA promotes? I can't find a link to it now . . . but it's in the pro audio hall at NAMM the past 3 years, just down from my favorite booth ( audioscape) in the 16000 block.
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Post by dror520 on Jul 5, 2020 8:28:18 GMT -6
He replied on Instagram that he's selling most of his gear because he finally created an amazing ITB template.
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Post by phantom on Jul 5, 2020 9:57:41 GMT -6
PA SSL Console J and Softube Germanium Compressors might have sealed the deal for him.
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Post by audioscape on Jul 5, 2020 10:18:37 GMT -6
Looks like he must be going fully ITB? Or retiring? Or maybe just using the remote online service that CLA promotes? I can't find a link to it now . . . but it's in the pro audio hall at NAMM the past 3 years, just down from my favorite booth ( audioscape ) in the 16000 block.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 5, 2020 10:26:01 GMT -6
Apparently he does this every few years.
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Post by seawell on Jul 5, 2020 11:18:19 GMT -6
I think this is going to be a good move for him. Speaking from experience, Brauering with Antelope interfaces is a nightmare. They never delay compensated properly(sometimes things even came back early which I'll never understand...but I digress). All of his outboard produced amazing results when he worked on a console but the hybrid approach just never quite worked in my opinion. I'd be very curious to see his ITB template.
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Post by drumsound on Jul 5, 2020 12:46:36 GMT -6
He left Electric Lady and had a room built a while back.
I heard he was quite a nightmare client for the designer...
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Post by lpedrum on Jul 5, 2020 13:25:08 GMT -6
He left Electric Lady and had a room built a while back. I heard he was quite a nightmare client for the designer...Love the small font to indicate an off the record comment. How small can I go on RGO? (I have some things I want to get off my chest. )
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Post by drumsound on Jul 5, 2020 19:48:32 GMT -6
He left Electric Lady and had a room built a while back. I heard he was quite a nightmare client for the designer...Love the small font to indicate an off the record comment. How small can I go on RGO? (I have some things I want to get off my chest. )
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Post by Ward on Jul 6, 2020 6:57:08 GMT -6
He left Electric Lady and had a room built a while back. I heard he was quite a nightmare client for the designer...Love the small font to indicate an off the record comment. How small can I go on RGO? (I have some things I want to get off my chest. ) You can go as small as 8 point, but you can also change the color to a blue that blends in . . .
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2020 7:00:23 GMT -6
Aren’t the drivers the Achilles heel of Antelope interfaces: seems to me I have heard about this for years?
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Post by Guitar on Jul 6, 2020 7:23:25 GMT -6
PA SSL Console J and Softube Germanium Compressors might have sealed the deal for him. Yeah I watched the video where he was talking about the Plugin Alliance SSL 9000 J. Apparently he's the one that asked for it. They worked with him back and forth a bit, and it's his main thing now.
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Post by donr on Jul 6, 2020 8:17:32 GMT -6
Can anyone point to a specific Brauer mix that shows off his compressed stem technique? I think it's a great idea and use my own version of it. Super easy in a DAW. I can see that most 'name' mixers from the big console days have little reason to stay fully analog, especially as mixing has become a remote, back and forth process, and mixers are dealing with multiple clients simultaneously.
A testament to how good plugins have become.
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Post by Ward on Jul 6, 2020 8:26:08 GMT -6
Can anyone point to a specific Brauer mix that shows off his compressed stem technique? (respecfully, Don!) So that's who we all stole it from? I started doing that in the 90s after learning it off Terry Brown (Rush, Beatles) and the way it came about was just "well this is just the way it's done". And felt stupid for not having done that before and thereon in changed to it. I think it's de rigeur now, especially for Drums, guitars, and Vocals but if he invented that then, thank you Michael Brauer!
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Post by Guitar on Jul 6, 2020 8:34:22 GMT -6
My understanding about the Brauer thing it's not just instrument group / busses with compression. It's a parallel FX send to one or more of four or so parallel compressors, for different tones and effects. donr I think people talk about that John Mayer Continuum album mixed by Brauer, I remember hearing that and being impressed with the sonics. I'm sure there are more, I just don't know them.
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Post by donr on Jul 6, 2020 8:40:33 GMT -6
Can anyone point to a specific Brauer mix that shows off his compressed stem technique? (respecfully, Don!) So that's who we all stole it from? I started doing that in the 90s after learning it off Terry Brown (Rush, Beatles) and the way it came about was just "well this is just the way it's done". And felt stupid for not having done that before and thereon in changed to it. I think it's de rigeur now, especially for Drums, guitars, and Vocals but if he invented that then, thank you Michael Brauer! I credit Brauer because I read Mix and other AE oriented publications where he is the guy known for it. You couldn't do it his way before there were enough busses on big consoles for several submixes. I like to hear pop mix elements throbbing and pumping.
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Post by sirthought on Jul 6, 2020 8:48:43 GMT -6
He didn't invent parallel processing, but if you really look at how he does it, I think his approach shows an individual style that's different.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jul 6, 2020 10:42:43 GMT -6
My understanding about the Brauer thing it's not just instrument group / busses with compression. It's a parallel FX send to one or more of four or so parallel compressors, for different tones and effects. donr I think people talk about that John Mayer Continuum album mixed by Brauer, I remember hearing that and being impressed with the sonics. I'm sure there are more, I just don't know them. That’s pretty much it. He would insert a comp/eq combo on the A,B,C,D stereo busses on the ssl. Then he could pick which bus, including the main stereo bus, to send each channel into, sometimes sending a channel to multiple busses. That combined with parallel processing is his “thing”. Super easy to setup and use on the SSL desks. Not so easy to master haha.
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Post by EmRR on Jul 6, 2020 11:40:39 GMT -6
My understanding about the Brauer thing it's not just instrument group / busses with compression. It's a parallel FX send to one or more of four or so parallel compressors, for different tones and effects. donr I think people talk about that John Mayer Continuum album mixed by Brauer, I remember hearing that and being impressed with the sonics. I'm sure there are more, I just don't know them. That’s pretty much it. He would insert a comp/eq combo on the A,B,C,D stereo busses on the ssl. Then he could pick which bus, including the main stereo bus, to send each channel into, sometimes sending a channel to multiple busses. That combined with parallel processing is his “thing”. Super easy to setup and use on the SSL desks. Not so easy to master haha. Really kind of an extension of doing monitor mixes, just that they come back together in a single mix.
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Post by seawell on Jul 6, 2020 12:44:00 GMT -6
Can anyone point to a specific Brauer mix that shows off his compressed stem technique? I think it's a great idea and use my own version of it. Super easy in a DAW. I can see that most 'name' mixers from the big console days have little reason to stay fully analog, especially as mixing has become a remote, back and forth process, and mixers are dealing with multiple clients simultaneously. A testament to how good plugins have become. Some of my favorite Brauer Mixes are: She Burns by Foy Vance Loveless by Lo Moon Viva la Vida(album) by Coldplay As mentioned earlier his work on John Mayer's Continuum album was really special(as was Manny Marroquin's on that same album).
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Post by seawell on Jul 6, 2020 12:49:19 GMT -6
Aren’t the drivers the Achilles heel of Antelope interfaces: seems to me I have heard about this for years? The driver updates are what would brick a lot of people's units when updating. Thankfully that never happened to me but I couldn't deal with the incorrect delay compensation. It was random enough that I could never manually compensate for it. I worked with support until they reached the end of any possible solutions and then I just moved on to a pair of Avid HD I/O.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 13:17:45 GMT -6
He will probably get bored with the handful of plugin compressors that don’t suck. Most of them fail horribly at converting sound pressure energy into harmonic energy. Most of them alias. Most plugin compressors simply make your track smaller and shittier.
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Post by phantom on Jul 6, 2020 14:12:05 GMT -6
He will probably get bored with the handful of plugin compressors that don’t suck. Most of them fail horribly at converting sound pressure energy into harmonic energy. Most of them alias. Most plugin compressors simply make your track smaller and shittier. If he's really going all ITB, I doubt he'll come back in the short term. I mean, just watch any video of him doing mixes and you'll see that he's already ITB for the most part for quite some time now. Besides that, I can't complain about the mixes of Tchad Blake and Andrew Scheps, to name a few that are all in the box nowadays.
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