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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2020 9:29:27 GMT -6
Is there any way to convert some of these to tci files? Maybe it’s just easier to pull up an instance of Superior and then use tracker. It just takes up a lot of resources in the middle of the mix. Guess you could bounce the audio when you’re done.
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Post by ragan on Jun 30, 2020 9:37:32 GMT -6
Is there any way to convert some of these to tci files? Maybe it’s just easier to pull up an instance of Superior and then use tracker. It just takes up a lot of resources in the middle of the mix. Guess you could bounce the audio when you’re done. You can bounce an SD3 hit as a wav file and then use the Trigger Instrument Editor to create a .tci file and just stick it in whatever folder you want to go find it in Trigger. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 30, 2020 9:56:09 GMT -6
Alternatively, you can use trigger to generate Midi notes, or I'm sure PT has a way to hit detect and create midi from audio. Then route to SD.
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Post by levon on Jun 30, 2020 10:31:41 GMT -6
Is there any way to convert some of these to tci files? Maybe it’s just easier to pull up an instance of Superior and then use tracker. It just takes up a lot of resources in the middle of the mix. Guess you could bounce the audio when you’re done. You can bounce an SD3 hit as a wav file and then use the Trigger Instrument Editor to create a .tci file and just stick it in whatever folder you want to go find it in Trigger. That's what I do. I bounce a hit to a wav file and simple load that file in Trigger. Works like a charm. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2020 10:33:58 GMT -6
that would work if you have three or four...but I guess if I wanted to be able to really sample lots of the library I’d have to use tracker with SD
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Post by ragan on Jun 30, 2020 10:38:36 GMT -6
that would work if you have three or four...but I guess if I wanted to be able to really sample lots of the library I’d have to use tracker with SD Yeah, I'd just use tracker. What is it about Trigger you want to preserve? That can't be accomplished with SD tracker I mean. The Trigger Instrument Editor let's you load multi-velocity hits into the .tci but I never had much luck making that process come out smoothly. Plus it would take a prohibitively long time doing that for big chunks of an SD3 library. |
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Post by phantom on Jun 30, 2020 11:29:57 GMT -6
Too much trouble and you would end up having much less flexibility than if staying on SD Tracker.
Are you really having problems with CPU resources? Not even freezing the track after using it?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2020 12:31:32 GMT -6
that would work if you have three or four...but I guess if I wanted to be able to really sample lots of the library I’d have to use tracker with SD Yeah, I'd just use tracker. What is it about Trigger you want to preserve? That can't be accomplished with SD tracker I mean. The Trigger Instrument Editor let's you load multi-velocity hits into the .tci but I never had much luck making that process come out smoothly. Plus it would take a prohibitively long time doing that for big chunks of an SD3 library. Oh nothing - just if I'm late in the mixing process and I'm already close to maxing out, adding a Superior instance is a pain. I'd probably rather be able to use tracker because then you have the room and everything in the sample. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2020 12:33:48 GMT -6
Too much trouble and you would end up having much less flexibility than if staying on SD Tracker. Are you really having problems with CPU resources? Not even freezing the track after using it? Well, I'd have to unfreeze the drumbus (love that you can freeze aux's in PT) to use tracker. But also - in Luna, there's no freeze option. I was just about to bail on Luna for the time being because it's just not fully fleshed out and slows me down...but then Svart was asking what I did to make the bass and drums sound that way lol. Now that's made me think Luna is a little better sounding going into the Neve Summing. |
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Post by phantom on Jul 1, 2020 7:59:16 GMT -6
Too much trouble and you would end up having much less flexibility than if staying on SD Tracker. Are you really having problems with CPU resources? Not even freezing the track after using it? Well, I'd have to unfreeze the drumbus (love that you can freeze aux's in PT) to use tracker. But also - in Luna, there's no freeze option. I was just about to bail on Luna for the time being because it's just not fully fleshed out and slows me down...but then Svart was asking what I did to make the bass and drums sound that way lol. Now that's made me think Luna is a little better sounding going into the Neve Summing. That Neve Summing surely adds something nice. But can't you achieve that with the many plugins out there that does the same thing? Or hardware, like a Silver Bullet maybe? It's working pretty good here. Anyway, to each their own, but I would never get used with the lack of basic Daw functions, like freeze. Specially in my projects with VST Instruments - btw, surprising doing much more of these nowadays than before. But if that's so, I would recommend to invest in a better computer maybe? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 1, 2020 9:07:26 GMT -6
Well, I'd have to unfreeze the drumbus (love that you can freeze aux's in PT) to use tracker. But also - in Luna, there's no freeze option. I was just about to bail on Luna for the time being because it's just not fully fleshed out and slows me down...but then Svart was asking what I did to make the bass and drums sound that way lol. Now that's made me think Luna is a little better sounding going into the Neve Summing. That Neve Summing surely adds something nice. But can't you achieve that with the many plugins out there that does the same thing? Or hardware, like a Silver Bullet maybe? It's working pretty good here. Anyway, to each their own, but I would never get used with the lack of basic Daw functions, like freeze. Specially in my projects with VST Instruments - btw, surprising doing much more of these nowadays than before. But if that's so, I would recommend to invest in a better computer maybe? Two things: you got $2000 I can borrow? And the physical printing is much less convenient. These days if I’m not getting paid $200 + for a mix, I’m not doing stuff out of the box. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 1, 2020 9:08:00 GMT -6
Oh - and there’s something different about the Neve Summing.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 2, 2020 12:16:12 GMT -6
That Neve Summing surely adds something nice. But can't you achieve that with the many plugins out there that does the same thing? Or hardware, like a Silver Bullet maybe? It's working pretty good here. Anyway, to each their own, but I would never get used with the lack of basic Daw functions, like freeze. Specially in my projects with VST Instruments - btw, surprising doing much more of these nowadays than before. But if that's so, I would recommend to invest in a better computer maybe? Two things: you got $2000 I can borrow? And the physical printing is much less convenient. These days if I’m not getting paid $200 + for a mix, I’m not doing stuff out of the box. Screw "borrow," how about just "donate to the cause"? Actually, this would be a funny idea: Call it "Johnkenn's 2012 Mac Mini Memorial Fund." Make a Patreon or something. I bet people would actually donate to that. Hell, I would donate to that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 2, 2020 12:18:15 GMT -6
I would only be doing it for the greater good of course, sharing my experiences with the masses.  |
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Post by sam on Jul 3, 2020 7:14:02 GMT -6
I get that they’re keeping it proprietary but I wish SD would release TCI packs. The Orange County snare in the pop punk pack is so good
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Post by levon on Jul 4, 2020 0:55:05 GMT -6
that would work if you have three or four...but I guess if I wanted to be able to really sample lots of the library I’d have to use tracker with SD True, you always trigger the same sample. However, I never use the sample on its own, I mix it under my original recording, so it just adds the flavour. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 4, 2020 9:28:39 GMT -6
that would work if you have three or four...but I guess if I wanted to be able to really sample lots of the library I’d have to use tracker with SD True, you always trigger the same sample. However, I never use the sample on its own, I mix it under my original recording, so it just adds the flavour. I meant sifferent snares or kicks. I bet there are 50 snares alone in all my libraries. |
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Post by levon on Jul 4, 2020 10:21:41 GMT -6
What keeps you from bouncing various snares, kicks and toms from SD3? I also have a big library. Sometimes I just use the room samples under my own snare recording. I know it's work and if you have to make a living from studio work, it probably takes too long, but I always bounce samples I like. Thankfully, I don't have to make money with my work anymore, I do it for the fun of it. Working your studio to earn a living is a different ballgame, I know.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 4, 2020 11:54:48 GMT -6
What keeps you from bouncing various snares, kicks and toms from SD3? I also have a big library. Sometimes I just use the room samples under my own snare recording. I know it's work and if you have to make a living from studio work, it probably takes too long, but I always bounce samples I like. Thankfully, I don't have to make money with my work anymore, I do it for the fun of it. Working your studio to earn a living is a different ballgame, I know. Yeah I guess I could just alt/shift/3 my snare and kick tracks and do it in standalone. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 14, 2020 17:58:33 GMT -6
So I am augmenting a drum performance with SD3 and Rooms of Hansa and it is really making the drums sound great for the most part. They were tracked in a small/deadish room that is just kind of OK and this is really helping. (Bad drum edits by the songwriter/artist aside).
FWIW, I am just using Tracker and routing everything I 'm using on the SD3 mixer to new tracks in PT and printing a pass. That way I can use clip gain, PT automation, and perhaps additional effects if I want to. It's worth the 5 minutes to me to route it all out and print a pass.
I get that everyone is different in their workflow and it did bite me in the behind a little: somehow the tom close mics didn't get printed, but I found a way around it in the mix. Definitely need to be a tad more careful next time.
Anyway there is another issue: the artists rough mix had the drums pretty buried and now that I have them sounding way better, it's painfully obvious how out of time his guitar playing is by the second chorus. Sigh.
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