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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 22, 2020 17:57:31 GMT -6
Two Inputs Per Channel – Seamlessly switch from Mix to Record Inputs at the push of a button Third channel strip Input for dual-layer use Mix up to 48 Mono Signals at once Marinair® Transformers on Mix, AFL, CUE bus for true Neve voltage mixing 80 - series Neve® sound in a compact frame Large format console Centre Section. Multiple speaker sets, dual Cue system and three-way talkback system Internal Snapshot system to Save/Load multiple all console settings across multiple sessions 500 series slots for internal expansion options 1073® preamps and DI inputs with Smart Routing for recording in the live or Control room In-Line Console capability 25-way D-Type and Balanced Jack Inputs on rear and on front for a combination of simple and professional I/O Connection The 8424 is designed to connect to and utilise all of your instruments and outboard equipment, becoming the centrepiece of your studio
No built in EQs though. Could be a nice tracking console.
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Post by dror520 on Jun 22, 2020 18:03:10 GMT -6
There are only two mic preamps..
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 22, 2020 18:44:26 GMT -6
There are only two mic preamps.. Wow. I missed that. So it’s a giant summing mixer.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Jun 22, 2020 18:48:34 GMT -6
So it’s a giant summing mixer.
In a Nutshell, yes! Although, it has Faders, Auxes, 4 groups, and Auxes. Could be pretty cool for engineers / studios who already have enough mic pre /Eq's and just need a way to integrate everything.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 22, 2020 18:52:06 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 22, 2020 18:57:10 GMT -6
There are only two mic preamps.. I just wonder why no company picks up the needs of more and more musicians working @home with small budgets. The best idea in a decade was the Silver Bullet....
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 22, 2020 19:26:26 GMT -6
2 pres and no eq? So, not set up for tracking or mixing. As stated above seems to be a giant summing box.
Not sure I see the market for this really.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by ericn on Jun 22, 2020 19:26:42 GMT -6
So it’s a giant summing mixer. In a Nutshell, yes! Although, it has Faders, Auxes, 4 groups, and Auxes. Could be pretty cool for engineers / studios who already have enough mic pre /Eq's and just need a way to integrate everything. Yeah a giant expensive summing mixer. I’m personally to much in the habit of sitting in the sweet spot and dialing in the EQ. Now what would have been cool is if they would have put a controller for both a outboard optional digitally controlled EQ and Dynamics module.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 22, 2020 20:27:21 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 23, 2020 5:40:13 GMT -6
So it’s a giant summing mixer. In a Nutshell, yes! Although, it has Faders, Auxes, 4 groups, and Auxes. Could be pretty cool for engineers / studios who already have enough mic pre /Eq's and just need a way to integrate everything. Yeah a giant expensive summing mixer. I’m personally to much in the habit of sitting in the sweet spot and dialing in the EQ. Now what would have been cool is if they would have put a controller for both a outboard optional digitally controlled EQ and Dynamics module.
Is not the SSL Matrix the same, a giant summing mixer?
If money would not be an Issue I would invest in this one....
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 23, 2020 7:22:08 GMT -6
True, and only 16 channels with no preamps,
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Post by ericn on Jun 23, 2020 7:53:10 GMT -6
Yeah a giant expensive summing mixer. I’m personally to much in the habit of sitting in the sweet spot and dialing in the EQ. Now what would have been cool is if they would have put a controller for both a outboard optional digitally controlled EQ and Dynamics module.
Is not the SSL Matrix the same, a giant summing mixer?
If money would not be an Issue I would invest in this one....
It is and it’s a piece of gear I just don’t see fitting in most situations.
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Post by phantom on Jun 23, 2020 7:57:31 GMT -6
2 preamps is a bad joke by AMS Neve.
Giant summing box low on features, very expensive and probably with a minimum sound to it.
They really want to enter the "low price" market, but they don't want to give the quality that this market already is used to. Anyway, it'll sell because of the brand.
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Post by drbill on Jun 23, 2020 10:19:28 GMT -6
The best idea in a decade was the Silver Bullet.... Well..... I thought so..... . Haha!
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Post by phantom on Jun 23, 2020 12:39:39 GMT -6
There are only two mic preamps.. I just wonder why no company picks up the needs of more and more musicians working @home with small budgets. The best idea in a decade was the Silver Bullet.... Well, it's really possible that a Silver Bullet would make the same difference on the sonic quality of a recording than this Neve console.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 23, 2020 13:12:58 GMT -6
If I'm spending that money on a small console, there is only one choice really. The new JCF Console. At least it's a fully featured console..oh..and 100% digitally recallable. THATS a console for 2020 and beyond.
Otherwise, if I was running a small tracking studio, or even a bigger one. The Looptrotter console would be the way to go. Ton of Auxes, lots of features, endless options for tone via 500 series built in. And, pretty affordable for what it is. And expandable.
These big name console builders and struggling to get with the times with their own products.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 23, 2020 13:22:30 GMT -6
If I'm spending that money on a small console, there is only one choice really. The new JCF Console. At least it's a fully featured console..oh..and 100% digitally recallable. THATS a console for 2020 and beyond. Otherwise, if I was running a small tracking studio, or even a bigger one. The Looptrotter console would be the way to go. Ton of Auxes, lots of features, endless options for tone via 500 series built in. And, pretty affordable for what it is. And expandable. These big name console builders and struggling to get with the times with their own products. That Looptrotter only has 4 auxes. $23000 for 24 channels of routing and 500 series racks. I wouldn't call that "affordable for what it is".
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 23, 2020 13:28:21 GMT -6
So it’s a giant summing mixer. In a Nutshell, yes! Although, it has Faders, Auxes, 4 groups, and Auxes. Could be pretty cool for engineers / studios who already have enough mic pre /Eq's and just need a way to integrate everything. So what's the point of having a "Neve" if there's no EQ and essentially no mic preamps?
Well, aside from being able to say "I have a NEVE", of course.
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Post by ericn on Jun 23, 2020 13:31:40 GMT -6
So it’s a giant summing mixer. In a Nutshell, yes! Although, it has Faders, Auxes, 4 groups, and Auxes. Could be pretty cool for engineers / studios who already have enough mic pre /Eq's and just need a way to integrate everything. So what's the point of having a "Neve" if there's no EQ and essentially no mic preamps?
Well, aside from being able to say "I have a NEVE", of course.
Well it looks cool?
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 23, 2020 13:42:31 GMT -6
API seems to be the only "major" with what I'd call a coherent console lineup.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 23, 2020 13:50:35 GMT -6
If I'm spending that money on a small console, there is only one choice really. The new JCF Console. At least it's a fully featured console..oh..and 100% digitally recallable. THATS a console for 2020 and beyond. Otherwise, if I was running a small tracking studio, or even a bigger one. The Looptrotter console would be the way to go. Ton of Auxes, lots of features, endless options for tone via 500 series built in. And, pretty affordable for what it is. And expandable. These big name console builders and struggling to get with the times with their own products. That Looptrotter only has 4 auxes. $23000 for 24 channels of routing and 500 series racks. I wouldn't call that "affordable for what it is". Eh 4 Auxes and 4 Groups. That's pretty good. An SSL Duality only has 4 Auxes and 1 stereo cue send... Plus some other cool features. I think it's a strong contender for a nice console with plenty of options. But again, I'd go for the JCF one personally.
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 23, 2020 14:19:19 GMT -6
I just wonder why no company picks up the needs of more and more musicians working @home with small budgets. The best idea in a decade was the Silver Bullet.... Well, it's really possible that a Silver Bullet would make the same difference on the sonic quality of a recording than this Neve console.
I do overdubbing anyway, tracking thourgh my Vintage Design DMP 1073 clone. Sometimes hardware the way in + on the 2bus.
In mastering it most often sees some EQ and some Pendulum OCL-2, sometimes Tape too.
Sounds like a record to my ears ....
A dream would be the AWS 900 but mhhhh it also works without the dream gear.....
20-40 K for a Homestudio is no longer realistic. Neve should hear ringing the death bell seeing famous AE going all ITB.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 23, 2020 14:26:05 GMT -6
That Looptrotter only has 4 auxes. $23000 for 24 channels of routing and 500 series racks. I wouldn't call that "affordable for what it is". Eh 4 Auxes and 4 Groups. That's pretty good. An SSL Duality only has 4 Auxes and 1 stereo cue send... Plus some other cool features. I think it's a strong contender for a nice console with plenty of options. But again, I'd go for the JCF one personally. That JCF is going to be $150k though. That's a pretty substantial difference. I feel like I must be the only dinosaur these days that still does headphone mixes on the console. I'd love to have a board with 6-8 stereo auxes. If this Looptrotter was half the price though, I'd probably already have one in my studio.
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Post by drbill on Jun 23, 2020 15:04:44 GMT -6
I just wonder why no company picks up the needs of more and more musicians working @home with small budgets. The best idea in a decade was the Silver Bullet.... Well, it's really possible that a Silver Bullet would make the same difference on the sonic quality of a recording than this Neve console. On the "sonics" level - not the workflow perspective - yeah, absolutely- without a doubt in my mind. And actually, perhaps even a greater sonic level due to two completely different sonic pallets - API/NEVE.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jun 23, 2020 20:52:41 GMT -6
Eh 4 Auxes and 4 Groups. That's pretty good. An SSL Duality only has 4 Auxes and 1 stereo cue send... Plus some other cool features. I think it's a strong contender for a nice console with plenty of options. But again, I'd go for the JCF one personally. That JCF is going to be $150k though. That's a pretty substantial difference. I feel like I must be the only dinosaur these days that still does headphone mixes on the console. I'd love to have a board with 6-8 stereo auxes. If this Looptrotter was half the price though, I'd probably already have one in my studio. If given the choice I’d rather throw direct outs to a private cue or aviom system. Maybe it’s because I always had the luxury of doing that, but making cue mixes for picky musicians is the WORST. And I’ve been on both sides of the glass haha
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