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Post by popmann on Jun 17, 2020 16:07:31 GMT -6
UGH...I can't decide between Hansa and Decades...which would you choose? Well, decades is the first brush kit in the Toontracks world since Cubstom&Vintage that I found useable... Hansa is 4 rooms/kits. Personally--I find two of the rooms unusable...then there's a vocal booth ultra dry thing that's "neat"--but, how often will I really use that? So really there's on call "the live room"--which is the second smallest that has ONE kit...and it's nice. Decades has tea towel damped drum kit. If you want 70s pop/soul--there you have it. I wouldn't buy Hansa...BUT...I guess if you're one of those "variety is the spice of life" guys having 4 different rooms of greatly varying sound in one expansion might float you boat.
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Post by mike on Jun 17, 2020 16:30:04 GMT -6
My vote would be Decades out of those 2
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2020 16:33:35 GMT -6
Oh well. After researching and listening to a bunch of stuff, I bought Hansa. Just felt like I’d use those kits more than some of the jazz and brush stuff in Decades.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2020 16:34:04 GMT -6
Might just say screw it and buy both
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Post by gwlee7 on Jun 17, 2020 17:28:43 GMT -6
Might just say screw it and buy both That’s the spirit!!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2020 18:13:41 GMT -6
Wow. Wow. Wow. Just installed and ONLY played the Live Room kits...and these are absolutely head and shoulders above any of the other SDX's I have or have played. I don't doubt the Decades is just as good...might HAVE to get them now. But holy shit, the mixer/Mixes are just outstanding - USABLE. Previously, I thought the Bob Rock ones were standouts - and they sound great, but these are just unbelievably good.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2020 18:52:00 GMT -6
If you're looking for raw drums in rooms...this is it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2020 21:40:56 GMT -6
I don’t really know how to describe it...maybe there are more layers or something? But these just feel sooo much better than the standard library.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 18, 2020 15:23:36 GMT -6
I know it's not a particularly popular expansion pack (at least around here), but I'm a really big fan of the Post-Rock EZX. I've been a huge Sigur Rós fan for many years, and I just love the sound of Sundlaugin, their studio in Mosfellsbær. Roomy, but not super big.
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Post by gwlee7 on Jun 19, 2020 17:43:34 GMT -6
Has anyone pulled the trigger on either of the Latin/Cuban drums or percussion? The demos sound fun.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 19, 2020 21:00:42 GMT -6
Anyway, I'll stop clogging the thread with this little detour. Just a really cool little segment of music from back then that I had a connection to and that had a big influence on me as a young dude and your very cool STL demo clip reminded me of some of these Paul D'Amour/Failure vibes. Dude! No worries at all, I'm super grateful you posted that because I now LOVE that Lusk record. Particularly the song "Mindray." I can't believe I've never heard of them until now. Incredible musicianship. I've actually been working on something with a similar kind of vibe (albeit MUCH more pop and much less prog): https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/june-92-demoAgain, kinda rough, but I played around with lower velocities in SD and I think the drums came out kinda neat.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 19, 2020 21:07:06 GMT -6
Has anyone pulled the trigger on either of the Latin/Cuban drums or percussion? The demos sound fun. I can't comment on the EZX, but I have the Cuba library from NI and it's killer. Doesn't come with a drum kit like the EZX, but it's pretty excellent percussion otherwise.
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Post by ragan on Jun 20, 2020 13:39:35 GMT -6
Anyway, I'll stop clogging the thread with this little detour. Just a really cool little segment of music from back then that I had a connection to and that had a big influence on me as a young dude and your very cool STL demo clip reminded me of some of these Paul D'Amour/Failure vibes. Dude! No worries at all, I'm super grateful you posted that because I now LOVE that Lusk record. Particularly the song "Mindray." I can't believe I've never heard of them until now. Incredible musicianship. I've actually been working on something with a similar kind of vibe (albeit MUCH more pop and much less prog): https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/june-92-demoAgain, kinda rough, but I played around with lower velocities in SD and I think the drums came out kinda neat. Yeah isn't that Lusk record cool? Way under the radar but I was really into it at the time and still think it's really great. Also, this clip ^^ is very cool! I love the vibe. Reminds me a bit of The Verve and also this Engineers track that used to be the intro theme for Big Love (one of my favorite shows). Where can I hear more of your music?
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 22, 2020 14:07:53 GMT -6
PM'd ya!
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Post by svart on Jun 23, 2020 7:47:48 GMT -6
I almost pulled the trigger on one of the GGD sets, but I found a video with Nolly using them and the raw drum sounds are very, very different than how they're presented on the website. They sound so much bigger, fatter and brighter on the website than the raw samples do.. It's mostly in how they're processed and mixed that really make them stand out IMHO. I was able to make my own drums sound 90% the same when knowing how they processed them.
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Post by sam on Jun 27, 2020 7:55:24 GMT -6
I almost pulled the trigger on one of the GGD sets, but I found a video with Nolly using them and the raw drum sounds are very, very different than how they're presented on the website. They sound so much bigger, fatter and brighter on the website than the raw samples do.. It's mostly in how they're processed and mixed that really make them stand out IMHO. I was able to make my own drums sound 90% the same when knowing how they processed them. Most of the kits (at least the Modern and Massive one) have a “turbo” function that you can mix in, I think many of the examples use it. That said I find them super clean and easy to mangle. I like making my own samples when I can, but the depth to which these samples are captured is fantastic. And Middle Farm might be the most beautiful studio in the world, I can’t believe how good that room is.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 27, 2020 8:29:12 GMT -6
My favorite samples I've ever heard to date are the Evil Drums by Joe Barresi in the BFD program.
Don't really use samples a whole lot. I have the Slate Trigger thing that I use to fix badly recorded snare drums sometimes. It can save the day if the snare track sounds horrible.
Mostly don't rely on them though. I'll probably end up with Battery 4 by next week, for MIDI programmed drums.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 28, 2020 23:13:28 GMT -6
My favorite samples I've ever heard to date are the Evil Drums by Joe Barresi in the BFD program. Don't really use samples a whole lot. I have the Slate Trigger thing that I use to fix badly recorded snare drums sometimes. It can save the day if the snare track sounds horrible. Mostly don't rely on them though. I'll probably end up with Battery 4 by next week, for MIDI programmed drums. I've got those - except mine are for Superior Drummer. They're really interesting with loads of character. IIRC, Barresi used all Neves and printed to tape. I haven't listened to them in awhile. My memory is that they (esp. the toms) are pretty boomy. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily. I tried to sneak them in on two songs of an 11-song album (this was years ago), but they sounded so different than the other kits used on the project that it made the mix pretty challenging to get those songs to fit in. I need to pull those samples back out again and listen. Thanks for the reminder, Guitar !
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