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Post by chessparov on May 20, 2020 15:27:36 GMT -6
Thanks! We're almost ready for the Final Cut.
Just remember Samplitude determines altitude. As long as it's JaKosher!
Hey this is almost like those "Worst Dylan imitation" live singing contests.
(cough cough "Mi Mi") "How many Daw's must it taaaake" "To call themselves a plaaannn" "The answer my friennnd" "Is checkin' your Trash binnnn" Chris
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Post by Guitar on May 20, 2020 16:02:54 GMT -6
The Audacity of you people. What a bunch of Pro Tools.
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Post by ericn on May 20, 2020 16:23:58 GMT -6
The Audacity of you people. What a bunch of Pro Tools. We may be Luna- tics but we have a Reason. Don’t go to deep we might have to use our Sonar.
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Post by notneeson on May 20, 2020 20:31:32 GMT -6
And what’s YOUR Cubasis for Digital Performing...nah, never mind. Not working... Well in my case the answer is Logic-al, I’m not a fruity loop, I may Need at least a Session One or two. I don’t fear the Reaper, even if it is indeed on my RADAR. I’m just a Pro Tool who likes to record Garage bands! Please tell me Reaper is DonR's DAW of choice.
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Post by ericn on May 20, 2020 21:34:46 GMT -6
Well in my case the answer is Logic-al, I’m not a fruity loop, I may Need at least a Session One or two. I don’t fear the Reaper, even if it is indeed on my RADAR. I’m just a Pro Tool who likes to record Garage bands! Please tell me Reaper is DonR's DAW of choice. All I know is my Tesla plays it when ever I engage the hidden Rainbow Road mode!
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Post by EmRR on May 20, 2020 22:08:31 GMT -6
I don't want to name names but I understand from a knowledgeable source that one of the networks was just about to switch to both Mac and final cut when Apple completely blew it. Oh can you imagine if they had a week earlier.
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Post by EmRR on May 20, 2020 22:19:00 GMT -6
What's the Reason for the Audacity to Audition something else? There's no Logic to it. And what’s YOUR Cubasis for Digital Performing...nah, never mind. Not working... at least someone said DP. I don’t have a Reason to leave it. Nor have I upgraded in 2 major revisions, 6 years now. Which is all of $200. Word to not having free time in a time of lower employment.
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Post by mrholmes on May 24, 2020 18:38:41 GMT -6
Oh my friend you are are a dreamer, you do realize that a 2011 MBP i7 like mine (3 generations before yours) is no longer supported for OS upgrades! Now what makes this lots of fun is you think, Oh I can still use the thing for email and other basic tasks! Maybe but I can’t log into my bank or the kids school and even iCloud can be funky because I’m using a no longer supported browser. Worse news they don’t cut off one generation at a time, sometimes 2 or 3. I just don't see this being any different on a Logic/Apple set up than any other. On my last system (Samplitude on an ADK built PC), I ran into the same issue, but it was about six years in. I don't see any reason why I can't ride Logic 10.4 for 2-3 more years. The problem that people run into is the constant need to upgrade. Once you get a stable system that does what you need to it to do, don't upgrade unless the upgrade provides a tangible benefit. I still recall going to Blackbird a few years ago and they were running PT 6 when PT 9 was the latest. I still run logic 10.3 simply for the reason it runs and runs and runs... Major upgrades always bring mayor trouble too. I yet have not seen new inventions which I need. I find it way more interesting that more and more plugins start to sound like hardware....
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2020 10:22:07 GMT -6
And what’s YOUR Cubasis for Digital Performing...nah, never mind. Not working... It's based on the Vision i had that PT is a CakeWalk in the park On a side note, I didn't know Cakewalk still existed. Remember when we were on Vision & friends on Windows used the Cakewalk thing.
I fail to see the logic in any of these posts. But then again, I still feel like a Master Tracks Pro . . . like a 3.6
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Post by popmann on May 25, 2020 12:46:03 GMT -6
And what’s YOUR Cubasis for Digital Performing...nah, never mind. Not working... It's based on the Vision i had that PT is a CakeWalk in the park On a side note, I didn't know Cakewalk still existed. Remember when we were on Vision & friends on Windows used the Cakewalk thing.
I fail to see the logic in any of these posts. But then again, I still feel like a Master Tracks Pro . . . like a 3.6 My first MIDI sequencer!! I remember a music store owner GAVE it to me....he said "you've got a Mac--buy this interface and I'll give you the sequencer to see if you dig it." Didn't even consider that piracy then. Ha. I very quickly replaced it with Performer because it allowed me to map tempo in reference to SMPTE so that my MIDI sequencer could follow the band basics on tape. We had another store that ALL they sold was MIDI software and hardware!! Had MOTU clinics...."look at the musical NOTATION in that Emagic Logic!!" Or was that while it was still called Notator? #geritolShot
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2020 18:17:34 GMT -6
I fail to see the logic in any of these posts. But then again, I still feel like a Master Tracks Pro . . . like a 3.6 My first MIDI sequencer!! I remember a music store owner GAVE it to me....he said "you've got a Mac--buy this interface and I'll give you the sequencer to see if you dig it." Didn't even consider that piracy then. Ha. I very quickly replaced it with Performer because it allowed me to map tempo in reference to SMPTE so that my MIDI sequencer could follow the band basics on tape. We had another store that ALL they sold was MIDI software and hardware!! Had MOTU clinics...."look at the musical NOTATION in that Emagic Logic!!" Or was that while it was still called Notator? #geritolShot Hand to God, I just looked up at my back wall book shelf and winked at the old Emagic 2.5 upgrade box!!
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Post by wiz on May 25, 2020 19:01:46 GMT -6
notator unitor... cubase 1? all on Atari (uprgraded from 520 to 1040)... smart FSK running on something... midi merge.. Mirage sampler... HR16 MMT8 its all coming back to me...
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Post by stratboy on May 25, 2020 22:18:13 GMT -6
notator unitor... cubase 1? all on Atari (uprgraded from 520 to 1040)... smart FSK running on something... midi merge.. Mirage sampler... HR16 MMT8 its all coming back to me... Doctor T sequencer on a Commodore 64? My first...
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Post by chessparov on May 26, 2020 9:37:16 GMT -6
Does an Abacus count? Chris
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Post by mrholmes on May 26, 2020 14:07:13 GMT -6
Does an Abacus count? Chris
I try to imagine your abacus songs....
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Post by chessparov on May 26, 2020 17:10:18 GMT -6
Mostly Rock! Chris
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 26, 2020 19:41:16 GMT -6
To this day I have yet to figure out Jobs distain for the 2 companies who kept Apple Alive for him to come back to and rebuild. Without those of us who were paying over list for 9600’s to build systems around Apple during the early days of Jobs reboot wouldn’t have had the cash to survive. Oh and we were an Apple dealer, just couldn’t get a Machine from Apple! If the customers had been build for my time by the hour for just tracking down the computer those PT3 systems would have cost twice as much. The Adobe and Avid relationships were entirely the work of John Scully.
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Post by the other mark williams on May 27, 2020 8:17:10 GMT -6
To this day I have yet to figure out Jobs distain for the 2 companies who kept Apple Alive for him to come back to and rebuild. Without those of us who were paying over list for 9600’s to build systems around Apple during the early days of Jobs reboot wouldn’t have had the cash to survive. Oh and we were an Apple dealer, just couldn’t get a Machine from Apple! If the customers had been build for my time by the hour for just tracking down the computer those PT3 systems would have cost twice as much. The Adobe and Avid relationships were entirely the work of John Scully. IIRC, Jobs’s “deal with the devil” was between himself and Bill Gates to keep Office available on Mac for a certain number of years. If Bill hadn’t taken that deal, I wonder if Apple would’ve gone under...
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 27, 2020 8:26:48 GMT -6
He did buy the OS for the original Apple computers from that "devil."
According to friends who worked for him in the early daze, he was absolutely obsessed with consumer electronics and wanting to be Sony. He got fired because he refused to serve Apple's actual customers who were graphic artists and not the consumers he was chasing.
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Post by Ward on May 27, 2020 11:12:57 GMT -6
Does an Abacus count? Chris I try to imagine your abacus songs....
My favorite Genesis album.
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Post by chessparov on May 27, 2020 13:27:42 GMT -6
On my "Homework" listening list now then! Chris
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Post by ericn on May 28, 2020 8:51:58 GMT -6
To this day I have yet to figure out Jobs distain for the 2 companies who kept Apple Alive for him to come back to and rebuild. Without those of us who were paying over list for 9600’s to build systems around Apple during the early days of Jobs reboot wouldn’t have had the cash to survive. Oh and we were an Apple dealer, just couldn’t get a Machine from Apple! If the customers had been build for my time by the hour for just tracking down the computer those PT3 systems would have cost twice as much. The Adobe and Avid relationships were entirely the work of John Scully. It was, but Jobs was to naive to understand that without Adobe and AVID he wouldn’t have had the money to build his IMac! I always thought part of it had to do with both not migrating to his NEXT machines. Jobs didn’t understand that NEXT while an excellent workstation was just to expensive for its target market education. Ironically he seamed to learn that lesson and grab a huge part of that market with the IMac. He also didn’t seam to understand that highend video guys didn’t care if the box the Avid was in said Apple, Dell or HP. Granted with HP and Dell changing things at a drop of a dime they were a bitch to support, but once you knew what serial # needed a certain tweak they were just as solid. Plus you could rack an HP or Dell much easier.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 28, 2020 18:00:27 GMT -6
Steve's original backers were still running Apple. His new backers dictated a lot of what NeXt could be.
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Post by bombadil on Jun 3, 2020 18:43:24 GMT -6
if you are running windows you might want to check out Cakewalk it's great for free I started out using Cakewalk a long time ago and stayed with it so the familiarity makes it faster and easier for me personally definitely agree that the "best" daw is going to be the one you are most acquainted with and therefore get the most done with I am going to spend some more time working with MIxbus 32C as the new version 6 looks to have some good improvements I remember years back watching an interview of some famous author of a popular series of books. He said he still uses Wordstar on a computer not hooked up to the internet. That's the word processing program everyone used back in 1983. And why not? It's about writing, not learning a program.
I'm still using Sonar X3 on Windows 8.1. I'm afraid to go to Win10 because X3 was released for Win7. I did have some issues installing some Waves plug-ins, which wanted Win10, but I got that sorted out. Seems Melodyne 5 wants Win10, but I might try it on Win81. I really hate learning new things. And I really hate the world of endless upgrades. I started with Cakewalk back in 1986 and X3 is probably all the DAW I'll ever need. If I want to work with someone else, they'll probably be using Logic, which I also have on a Hackintosh, but only for that purpose.
Harrison Mixbus does intrigue me, since it supposedly runs on Linux. The only other pro DAW I know of that does is Bitwig, but it's more of an Ableton type of DAW.
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Post by mattbroiler on Jun 4, 2020 4:53:39 GMT -6
if you can figure out a way to demo it without messing with your working system the new Cakewalk by Bandlab is really good for a free daw. You would not have to adapt or change your way of working very much. actually now that I think of it - you can install and run the new version alongside your existing cakewalk and go back and forth between them, it installs to a slightly different directory and does not mess with the old versions. I have one system still on windows 7 but no problem running Cakewalk on windows 10 it's more that that operating system needs a lot of tweaking (ie disabling background activity/services) to work better overall and for audio. Also getting into Mixbus 32c v6 here it's very cool I just need to put in a lot more time to get better with it.
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