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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 19, 2020 20:13:35 GMT -6
Just curious, what people recommend for clean and detailed pres, thinking like Hardy Jenson and pieces like that ?
Thx!
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Post by EmRR on Apr 19, 2020 20:18:33 GMT -6
Gordon is the one I most frequently hear at the top of the list.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 19, 2020 20:22:06 GMT -6
Thx, never heard of him before, I’ll check that out !
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Post by mike on Apr 19, 2020 20:23:01 GMT -6
I haven't used the Hardy Jensen, but always liked the Martinsound Martech MSS-10
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 19, 2020 20:23:05 GMT -6
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 19, 2020 20:33:54 GMT -6
I've heard good things about the Shiny Box Si pre, but never used it myself. I have one of their ribbon mics and it's very well made, sounds great. Definitely worth checking out.
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Post by tasteliketape on Apr 19, 2020 21:01:08 GMT -6
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Post by brenta on Apr 19, 2020 21:42:09 GMT -6
GML might be the best super clean preamp I've used, but it's expensive. I have some Cranborne Camdens that are clean and sound amazing and they are a bargain.
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Post by bram on Apr 19, 2020 21:42:21 GMT -6
I've heard good things about the Shiny Box Si pre, but never used it myself. I have one of their ribbon mics and it's very well made, sounds great. Definitely worth checking out. I have 2 channels of the Si Pre 500 format. Lots of clean gain, impedance switch for ribbons. It’s transparent without being sterile.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 21:50:26 GMT -6
Daking, FMR RNP, Grace from vibey to clean while still being clean and but not anti-septic junk like RME Octamics and most interface pres.
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Post by drumsound on Apr 19, 2020 22:11:16 GMT -6
The original Geart River MP2H is clean and still pleasing. It what I prefer on acoustic guitars. Its actually really nice on electric guitars, too. The DI is great for keys in the control room. They discontinued it years ago, but the come up once in a blue moon on the used market. There's even a 4 channel version.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 19, 2020 22:33:46 GMT -6
I really like the ULN-R pres on my Metric Halo. I think they’re great.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 19, 2020 23:10:35 GMT -6
Grace Design's. Stellar.
Millennial too are good.
Merging technologies
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Post by hadaja on Apr 20, 2020 2:35:36 GMT -6
Yep grace, millenia, even a lot of tube pres sound clean so dont discount those as well.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 20, 2020 5:21:52 GMT -6
Just curious, what people recommend for clean and detailed pres, thinking like Hardy Jenson and pieces like that ? Thx!
RME
It spits out what you put in near no coloration. I just don't understand why most people think RME puts bad pre-amps in their Interfaces. They are the same tech as the expensive ones from RME....
Very popular in location recording and orchestra tracking here in Germany.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 20, 2020 6:44:29 GMT -6
Currently using Tascam UH-7000 and Tascam Series 8p Dyna with the HDIA preamps.
-These are really good. Clean but a little "warm" sounding whatever that means, don't know a better word. They're not sterile sounding, but are very clear.
also not expensive at all.
I plan to build some hardy style DIY ones, one day
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Post by plinker on Apr 20, 2020 7:08:43 GMT -6
The original Geart River MP2H is clean and still pleasing. It what I prefer on acoustic guitars. Its actually really nice on electric guitars, too. The DI is great for keys in the control room. They discontinued it years ago, but the come up once in a blue moon on the used market. There's even a 4 channel version. There’s a unit on Reverb, last I checked.
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Post by bricejchandler on Apr 20, 2020 7:17:30 GMT -6
My current favorite preamp is the Tree Audio Branch and it's the cleanest I own. I find it very clean, detailed, no harshness like some Grace preamps, and it just sounds huge while still stacking very well.
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Post by Omicron9 on Apr 20, 2020 8:05:43 GMT -6
My fave is my Millennia HV-3D. I find it to be the definition of transparent; at least in my experience. It's in use on every session. I also dig the Sytek 4-channel. Clean and transparent, but slightly different than the Millennia; a tiny bit "thicker," for lack of a better term. But only slightly.
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Post by soundintheround on Apr 20, 2020 8:15:36 GMT -6
Warning: Dangerous Thread!!
Anytime you combine the subtlety of preamps with somewhat vague descriptive words.... I find that one man's clean, is another man's dirty.
But ok i'll bite.... I used to have a Amek 9098 that was 'clean'. But was almost too clean for my taste, although it worked. Nowadays if I want clean I go with either an API-ish pre (VP28) or a Tube preamp from Electric & Co, which can be clean if you dial it in correctly.
Neither of which are exactly 'clean'....but clean for me. See what I mean!
Or if I want totally 'sterile' I will just use an Apollo pre. But usually not going for that type of modern sound these days.
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Post by soundintheround on Apr 20, 2020 8:20:22 GMT -6
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Post by bricejchandler on Apr 20, 2020 8:20:42 GMT -6
I find that one man's clean, is another man's dirty. It really is because I find the VP28 to be about as colored as they get!!
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Post by soundintheround on Apr 20, 2020 8:29:41 GMT -6
I find that one man's clean, is another man's dirty. It really is because I find the VP28 to be about as colored as they get!! See what I mean! Colored to me is a chain of about 4 or 5 devices sometimes, upwards of 10+ transformers, 10+ tubes, maybe some tape, all approaching straight up distortion, but just before it hits. So a VP28 way down in the headroom of the device, sure it's got a lil flavor.... but I still consider it kinda clean.
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Post by nomatic on Apr 20, 2020 8:58:01 GMT -6
My favorite for clear and detailed without being sterile are the Teegarden Audio Magic Pre 4100.... My fave overall for general use...
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 20, 2020 9:33:17 GMT -6
Point take, but I think the inference is the detail and transparency rather than imparting a colour/tone of its own:neve, API, Helios ?
Just listing those as examples of a readily identifiable/known not neutral tone?
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