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Post by theshea on Mar 28, 2020 3:35:10 GMT -6
never did but i am considering doing it as i begin tto have trouble opening older projects with missing plugins ... so the question is:
what kinda stems are your exporting after a mix is completed?
instrument stems (drums, bass, guitars, keys, vocals etc.) naked (without plugins) and with plugins and all the effects? fx busses as well? curious what the general operandi modus is.
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Post by bricejchandler on Mar 28, 2020 4:13:29 GMT -6
I usually commit every single track with plug ins once a mix is done and save it as a separate project, granted I don't work with 100s of tracks and since I work mostly on my own production I usually don't work on more than 2-3 tracks/ month so I have plenty of time to do it. Sometimes I've had to recall a project years later, for very minor changes, but didn't have the same plugins and had to redo complete mixes, so now I'd rather spend 1 hour committing everything.
For mastering if needed, I'll send a drum, bass, guitar, keyboard, vocal and backing vocal stem ( I always separate the lead from the BVs).
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Post by theshea on Mar 28, 2020 13:57:51 GMT -6
I usually commit every single track with plug ins once a mix is done and save it as a separate project, granted I don't work with 100s of tracks and since I work mostly on my own production I usually don't work on more than 2-3 tracks/ month so I have plenty of time to do it. Sometimes I've had to recall a project years later, for very minor changes, but didn't have the same plugins and had to redo complete mixes, so now I'd rather spend 1 hour committing everything. For mastering if needed, I'll send a drum, bass, guitar, keyboard, vocal and backing vocal stem ( I always separate the lead from the BVs). but you can't do a remix this way ... |
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Post by popmann on Mar 28, 2020 14:06:25 GMT -6
I don't save stems out. If I borrow/rent hardware for the session, I'll print that back into it--but typically don't archive that. it's just done for recall.
I prioritize having the raw tracks in non proprietary format: both rendered from zero AND timestamped. That way you can always import the tracks into whatever tool you're using now and remix/rework as you might want.
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Post by bricejchandler on Mar 28, 2020 14:13:57 GMT -6
I usually commit every single track with plug ins once a mix is done and save it as a separate project, granted I don't work with 100s of tracks and since I work mostly on my own production I usually don't work on more than 2-3 tracks/ month so I have plenty of time to do it. Sometimes I've had to recall a project years later, for very minor changes, but didn't have the same plugins and had to redo complete mixes, so now I'd rather spend 1 hour committing everything. For mastering if needed, I'll send a drum, bass, guitar, keyboard, vocal and backing vocal stem ( I always separate the lead from the BVs). but you can't do a remix this way ... Well in my alternate project, I'll have the consolidated raw tracks , and also every single track with the plug ins committed. And I also keep the original mix file. So I can remix from the ground up using the raw tracks if I want but also if just want to do a simple level recall and I'm missing some of the plugins, or if I used outboard, I also have the effected tracks. I started doing this originally when I switched from TDM to HD, a bunch of old sessions wouldn't open because of plug in conflicts when all I needed to do were small level changes, ended up losing so much time that I figured It'd be better to be safe than sorry. Anyway it works for me. |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 28, 2020 18:46:48 GMT -6
Stems? I like asparagus but it isn't good for my gout....
RATS! Now I'm hungry!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 18:48:59 GMT -6
I render and save both the mixed stems and the rough tracks I started with. I do not usually save the older mix save files. What's done is done. There's no point in going George Lucas or Dave Mustaine in remixing things.
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Post by popmann on Mar 28, 2020 21:07:26 GMT -6
My point would be that even if you want to DO that....you need the raw tracks. Not some DAW session. Raw 24/Sessionrate tracks....that can be imported into ANYTHING and remixed.
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Post by nudwig on Mar 28, 2020 22:04:10 GMT -6
I've learned to always consolidate the raw tracks to the same starting point as well as commit the processed individual tracks, the busses, FX, make stems, and render any other oddities as well as run off TV mixes, censored versions, acapellas, instrumentals, etc. Seems like no matter how much your think you won't need it or a client assures you they won't need it'll always be needed when you're up to your neck on another project. Easier for me to do it when it's fresh in my mind and everything's working than having to remember some tiny detail, risk something not working, or being unable to get to the studio. A little paranoia saves hours in the future and luckily hard drive space is cheap these days.
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