Hello all. I do an annual project with the local university's music business class. Normally groups come to the studio to create music with people they don't normally play with. With shelter in place, this year we're taking a different approach.
Students will be creating and collaborating via file transfer. I'm trying to put together a PDF for them on some basics as they send things around. I will be doing the mixes at the studio, and doing ZOOM sessions with them as I mix.
I want them to have everything start at zero on the timeline. When punching or editing and whatnot, I know how to do this in Pro Tools. Highlight the whole area from the end to zero and select "consolidate track." I know this is not called the same thing in other DAWs.
If you work with Logic, Audacidy, REAPER, FL Studio, Cubase or any other DAW what do you call this procedure?
I feel like Cubase is "Bounce Selection"...but, it's been a while. Cubase has a very moronic "way it does things"--in that THOSE consolidated files lack a time stamp. Meaning if you just drag them out of the folder, no timestamp. Significant because if you DON'T select from 0, it consolidates the regions into one that requires a timestamp but won't have it. You have to export audio mixdown to get it out properly timestamped...and THEN you have to meticulously set the fader to 0, hard pan, bypass plug ins, etc, else you change the audio, which I've always argued is the exception (not the rule) to the workflow of exporting files ever.
Logic, you simply highlight the CHANNEL....and do a file "export selected track"...and uncheck the box for including plug ins and automation...and it automatically renders from 00 AND timestamps it. SUPER points for Logic's methods---and yet I STILL get people's tracks from logic with printed stereo reverbs and such....Logic users are NOT savvy as a rule. Also note that Logic, unlike EVERY other DAW put in the film standard of "1 day" in it's timestamp. That causes a lot of issues with musicians collaborating when one and only one has Logic.
Last Edit: Mar 26, 2020 10:59:20 GMT -6 by popmann
I’ve traded wav files in Cubase for years and never had the occasion to worry about time stamps. As long as everyone is bouncing or consolidating to the original starting point all is well. For trading audio files theres no need to mute plugins etc. just highlight and bounce in Cubase. If you like you can relabel each track such as “snare bounce” so it can easily be found. Also. Be sure to save the project as a bounce first so you can revert back to the earlier pre bounce version if needed.
Last Edit: Mar 26, 2020 14:56:42 GMT -6 by lpedrum
Post by the other mark williams on Mar 26, 2020 16:25:50 GMT -6
I think the best way to do it in Logic is actually File > Export > All Tracks as Audio Files. Very easy.
You'd then have your students choose the save format (AIFF or WAV), the bit depth, check the box for "Bypass Effect Plug-ins" (unless you want your students to have those included), uncheck "Include Volume/Pan Automation" (again, unless you want your students to include those), turn off all normalization. For Range, I'd probably recommend to "Extend File Length to Project End," but that's just me.
The need for timestamps goes beyond the sharing. Files with no timestamps can never be returned to origin should they be accidenatly moved. Sure-cosnolidating to zero is fine (and should always be done AS WELL) when transferring app to app....accidentally move it a a few milliseconds--then what?
Also of note for someone documenting all this: LPX has a super shitty behavior on IMPORT---where if you do "file>import.Audio File" OR go through it's right hand media bay browser to import, it will keep the timestamp intact, but if you drag it from the Finder (or desktop) it will STRIP the timestamp. I figure it's a bug. But, It was maddeingin when I had a client migrating rom a hardware recorder to LPX and he couldn't get anything to line up. Where I COULD....he could even bring me the files on a thumb drive and they worked for me....not for him.....he was dragging and dropping them--I was going through the File menu.