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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:50:38 GMT -6
any good? i mean they are pretty reasonably priced. i never took them seriously before, but looking more into, i see they are fully discrete and aren't all that bad.
i just bought 3a JR for $350.. any users here? do they sound pro? how do they compete with stams? are they stam ballpark in quality cause stam sure nail the sounds of vintage gear
i need a nice tracking leveler with some nice color to the tone. i know they have chinese transformers in there, but nobody seemed to be complaining of the quality. SOS reviews them favorably.
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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 24, 2020 7:20:23 GMT -6
I have a Comp-3A. I like it.
I generally prefer other compressors for recording, but it does have a cool sound. Definitely brings the midrange forward and has an aggressive sort of "bite" in the high end.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 24, 2020 7:22:01 GMT -6
Many love that on electric guitars!
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Post by sozocaps on Mar 24, 2020 10:37:25 GMT -6
I REALLY like mine... TONS of character
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 10:56:00 GMT -6
has any of you tried any upgrades on transformers? i know stam uses the sowters, im wondering if its compatible, im gona shoot em an email. i seen a site called revive audio using cinemag upgrades, not sure if theryre any good or worth the 275 pricing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 10:56:27 GMT -6
I have a Comp-3A. I like it. I generally prefer other compressors for recording, but it does have a cool sound. Definitely brings the midrange forward and has an aggressive sort of "bite" in the high end. in what situations u dont prefer them? vocals sound good? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 24, 2020 11:29:16 GMT -6
You could just pull a transformer and send it to Cinemag and request they make you transformers or if they could just supply it. Owner is David, very helpful and deeply knowledgeable guy. Hairballl Audio has a transformer kit already for the 3a talk to Michael.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 11:57:56 GMT -6
You could just pull a transformer and send it to Cinemag and request they make you transformers or if they could just supply it. Owner is David, very helpful and deeply knowledgeable guy. Hairballl Audio has a transformer kit already for the 3a talk to Michael. great, i appreciate the info! will contact! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 24, 2020 12:27:23 GMT -6
The 3a jr looks like it has an input and output transformer but no interstage. The 3a has all 3. Im sure you could just swap them in and out if you're up for it.
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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 24, 2020 12:31:55 GMT -6
I have a Comp-3A. I like it. I generally prefer other compressors for recording, but it does have a cool sound. Definitely brings the midrange forward and has an aggressive sort of "bite" in the high end. in what situations u dont prefer them? vocals sound good? I go back and forth with vocals. On one hand, I love the simplicity of it, and it does handle heavy compression pretty gracefully (you can easily do 10dB GR without sounding overcompressed). On the other hand, the overall character is just a little too vibey/saturated for my tastes. Other people seem to have some really impressive results with it. I think it depends on what other gear you're using — my mic/pre are both pretty mid-focused, so the GAP is just a bit much. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 12:43:15 GMT -6
The 3a jr looks like it has an input and output transformer but no interstage. The 3a has all 3. Im sure you could just swap them in and out if you're up for it. man it maybe simple, but i have no idea how to all that stuff.. what is interstage? is that necessary for an upgrade cause i just got the JR version? |
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Post by sozocaps on Mar 24, 2020 13:05:26 GMT -6
in what situations u dont prefer them? vocals sound good? I go back and forth with vocals. On one hand, I love the simplicity of it, and it does handle heavy compression pretty gracefully (you can easily do 10dB GR without sounding overcompressed). On the other hand, the overall character is just a little too vibey/saturated for my tastes. Other people seem to have some really impressive results with it. I think it depends on what other gear you're using — my mic/pre are both pretty mid-focused, so the GAP is just a bit much. Yea I wouldnt use it on vox.... Great for drums, electric guitars, bass.. John |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 24, 2020 13:07:05 GMT -6
If you opened it up and took a pic we could guide you.
Basically, it’s very simple unsoldering, and desoldering of transformers leads and then physically removing the old and installing the new transformers, again pretty straight forward.
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Post by svart on Mar 24, 2020 13:09:01 GMT -6
The 3a jr looks like it has an input and output transformer but no interstage. The 3a has all 3. Im sure you could just swap them in and out if you're up for it. There's no interstage transformers in an la3a.. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 24, 2020 13:12:39 GMT -6
The 3a jr looks like it has an input and output transformer but no interstage. The 3a has all 3. Im sure you could just swap them in and out if you're up for it. There's no interstage transformers in an la3a.. Sorry the auto former. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 24, 2020 13:34:31 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Mar 24, 2020 14:34:05 GMT -6
It acts as a voltage step-up stage for the AC signal that lights up the EL panel. The EL panels need something like 70-90vac for full brightness. An autoformer is a type of transformer that is more like multiple inductors in series, but with a common core. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 24, 2020 15:43:04 GMT -6
Thx!
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Post by mulmany on Mar 24, 2020 16:43:30 GMT -6
My 3a clones are parked on acgtr. I have a Laz and a Gap. Thought about changing the T4B cell... And that's it. I like the grit/sparkle the GAP adds. My Urei LA4 is on bass or guitar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 19:24:21 GMT -6
My 3a clones are parked on acgtr. I have a Laz and a Gap. Thought about changing the T4B cell... And that's it. I like the grit/sparkle the GAP adds. My Urei LA4 is on bass or guitar. Get mine tomorrow. Read about people using 1176 into la2a/la3a. Going to experiment with spl dynamaxx (fast n clean) going into a comp3, may produce cool results |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 0:04:30 GMT -6
found picture of the guts.. do you guys think the JR has enough space to be upgraded? like the big bro comp3a Attachments:
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 25, 2020 1:06:30 GMT -6
You could do the output transformer easy enough(the big square thing). The Input would be a bit harder due to having to unsolder it. Easy with a desolder gun but that's not cheap(Round silver can thing with black tape on it). Looks like it has two 2520 style op amps as well you could switch out for a lot of different things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 1:19:31 GMT -6
You could do the output transformer easy enough(the big square thing). The Input would be a bit harder due to having to unsolder it. Easy with a desolder gun but that's not cheap(Round silver can thing with black tape on it). Looks like it has two 2520 style op amps as well you could switch out for a lot of different things. if it fits, sowters would be nice, if im not mistaking they have transformers for la3a, not sure of the compatibility. i gota get my spl comp upgraded too so i will just get someone to do it. what else you recommend switching for op amps, like what components do you see that's easily switchable. hope they make one premier version like their 73 which isnt too costly compared to their lower level gear, to save all this headache. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 25, 2020 1:36:29 GMT -6
Just a thought, check your costs for buying these parts and getting them installed vs waiting till Chris at Audioscape gets his 19 inch done and selling yours and just buying a new 2 unit one ?
Or if you have a 500 chassis getting his 500 series 3a?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 2:35:09 GMT -6
Just a thought, check your costs for buying these parts and getting them installed vs waiting till Chris at Audioscape gets his 19 inch done and selling yours and just buying a new 2 unit one ? Or if you have a 500 chassis getting his 500 series 3a? I cN still return it, it's in the mail, bought recently. Yea If drives the cost up like that, it defeats the purpose. The samples are prety good on its own. I doubt you can even tell in a mix. I just may just keep it as is. Audioscape heard about them recently. If theyre anything like stams, I may consider it |
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