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Post by lowlou on Oct 5, 2024 13:57:15 GMT -6
Or you could sell the second unit to me, you know. No free rack unit, what can you do.
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Post by poppaflavor on Oct 7, 2024 19:39:43 GMT -6
I quit doing recording sessions 4 years ago and went 100% mastering. Recently I came out of retirement to produce a special album for a friend's band I've been working with since the 90s. Yesterday we started tracking vocals and at the last minute I remembered that the Dolby 740 has a reputation as a vocal processor. The guy who sold me my first one is a retired voiceover artist and he went on about how it gave him a special sound - gave him an edge on the competition. So I busted out my back-up 740 and patched it in at the end of the vocal chain. Oh man was he right! It breathes so much of life into the voice, it's ridiculous. And it cuts through the mix like crazy without sounding harsh. I am going to need to de-ess in mixdown though. This is the first time I've heard it on anything other than full mixes and I'm really impressed. Imagining using this on acoustic instruments and overheads or room mics has my mind working. I may loop out and print back some tracks through this come mixing time. We still have lead gtrs to track too... I've got to rack this second unit up but I have no spaces left. Something else is gonna have to go... Someone really needs to emulate this thing! Great insight and inspiration, thanks! I'm definitely going to have to try some mono tracks, vocals, single instruments and maybe some room stuff like you said. I've been loving this thing so much on stereo bus it's ridiculous. It's like audio crack. I started to run it mid-side with the McAudio Labs Luna. Holy moly. Emphasizing a little bit of the low-level signal on the mids and emphasizing a little bit of the high band on the sides is incredible. On the sides it does what you're describing about for the room mics. I'm learning that the Dolby NR knob is a very powerful tool. I don't use it much at all. I usually have it around 7:00. Basically just click it on and leave it at its lowest setting maybe a tiny bit up from that. Too much and it deadens the signal. But just a little bit and it's magic in terms of enhancing. |
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Post by trakworxmastering on Oct 7, 2024 20:10:05 GMT -6
I'm learning that the Dolby NR knob is a very powerful tool. I don't use it much at all. I usually have it around 7:00. Basically just click it on and leave it at its lowest setting maybe a tiny bit up from that. Too much and it deadens the signal. But just a little bit and it's magic in terms of enhancing. That's something I didn't notice when I was patching my 740 inline before I switched to sidechain mode in parallel. I noticed the deadening with NR turned too high, but what is this enhancing magic of which you speak??? Can you describe it? |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 7, 2024 20:54:03 GMT -6
I've never had the NR set higher than -3
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Post by poppaflavor on Oct 13, 2024 9:29:28 GMT -6
I'm learning that the Dolby NR knob is a very powerful tool. I don't use it much at all. I usually have it around 7:00. Basically just click it on and leave it at its lowest setting maybe a tiny bit up from that. Too much and it deadens the signal. But just a little bit and it's magic in terms of enhancing. That's something I didn't notice when I was patching my 740 inline before I switched to sidechain mode in parallel. I noticed the deadening with NR turned too high, but what is this enhancing magic of which you speak??? Can you describe it? My apologies for the delayed reply, not getting update notices. It's very hard to describe, so it very well may be a placebo effect at this very early stage of knowing this sweet beast since I basically click the NR on, it seems to sound better (which I'll describe in a moment), but dialing it up beyond a couple of increments deadens the sound. I had been going by dial position (7-8 oclock), but what EmRR said for positioning is so true for me as well. No more than -3 dB NR setting. Ok, what does it do imo? Well, it clearifies, erm clarifies, things. I really, seriously, gotta, should do a null test and then gain up the delta and listen to hear what the NR is actually doing because my curiosity is certainly piqued! I've read the manual, but I'm still not sure if the SC Listen will feature the NR signal alone if that is all which is activated. I kind of feel when I click NR on that some signal *between* the intentional desirable signals goes down. I hear you saying.... Well, duh dude! That's the point! But, I don't mean noise. I mean the juicy goodness that resides between the punctate transients of the song, the cymbal wash, the clap, the tails of reverb. All this gets deadened by the NR knob. Not just noise. But- stick with me here... I think that Dolby put the NR in because the upward compression of the 740 elevates those *in-between* sounds, and so the NR function is basically a way to dial back down the elevation I've done to the in-between sounds. So, basically the NR function allows one to clean up those low level signals which are binding and glueing the track together. So, when something is a bit too gluey and is a gemish of a melange of a blur then the 740 cannot be readily employed because it will raise the level of the low level glue binding. But, with the NR it seems that I can use the 740 on tracks that have pre-existing low level desirable signal to raise that and then back off the swirly droning hissy blur that might be introduced with the NR. Much still to learn! |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 13, 2024 9:46:25 GMT -6
My memory from the manual is the NR is a typical downward expander circuit that slides down in frequency based on what’s detected.
here it is:
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