Well i picked up a la-610 mk1 and hought it was going to be a cool addition. i am not really falling in love with it. I know people swear by these for electric guitars and i am yet to do that but its not living up to my expectations of an all round unit. i clearly had the wrong expectation of it. Do any of you guys use these and what works for you when using it? i am hoping its not a one trick pony. Just electric guitars. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I have a LA610 Signature Edition, so basically like a MkII but with NOS telefunkens. It's so sweet and euphonic on vocals. I really like it on e guitar and acoustic. Its a great all around pre. You can push it into a really pleasing sounding distortion but you have to experiment. The input gain, compressor, and output gain will all distort differently and at different levels. I find its best to push the input till you hear a just a little breakup on loud transients, then I add compression (as much for tone as for dynamics), then I keep the output fairly clean.
I've had the mk1 forever. Literally like Serial 102 or something....anyway....I have a lot of thoughts, FWIW:
-other 610s aren't the same circuit. Don't sound the same. The mk1 is more like they modded the front of an La2a to accept mic gain and phantom, etc, than the old 2-610/M610. If it wasn't--I'd have sold it for a 2-610 a LONG time ago, because I only use the preamp.
-there's a LOT of gain staging in this strip....and it changes the tone drastically. I just leave the output on 10. Start by getting as much of my gain from the little knob as I can--that "big knob" on the preamp side is where it saturates fast AF. Over 5 or 6, it will. Not the end of the world--it's a little like an old tube exciter. Makes a blah vocal mic get a little euphonic sizzle. Same with a bassDI, sometimes....and keep in mind being a passive EQ that they effect the gain staging--boosting the bass will functionally remove HF gain....I VU metering I never found that helpful besides the output level. My gain reduction stopped working many years ago. Never bother fixing, because....don't use the compressor.
-I tend to leave my HF shelf on 10k @ +1.5db. It does darken the tippy top a skootch. By starting there, this offsets it.
-I have all old stock tubes in mine. But, I didn't for a long time. It really makes the mids a little nicer like, well--like old stock tubes do for everything. No one says shit like "these old stock tubes really SIZZLE compared to the new stock!!" It's always that compared to new there's something "not whole" about the 800hz-3khz range.
-The compressor actually does sound a LOT like a vintage 2a I had here, but in the intimate irony--not when using the unit as a preamp. If you use the line input with a hardware insert, barring EXTREME abuse where the old ones shine "special", it actually sounds VERY VERY similar. However, if you use the mic input, it sounds very NOT similar. See above on how it's more like they modded a 2a....once you're using all that stuff for the mic preamp'ing--the gain staging must just be totally different and "wrong". I've cut wonderful tracks with the GreatRiver preamp into that as a vocal limiter--ALSO used that as a vocal preamp to wonderful ends--but, I've never been able to combine them, which was obviously the "point" of a strip like that.
It's a lot. You CAN make it sound fairly lame....or great....but, it's stayed when many many other preamps have come and gone over the years.
Post by Vincent R. on Feb 13, 2020 18:40:15 GMT -6
I had the desktop 610 preamp. So I can only talk about the premap. I really liked it, especially with my Altec ribbon. After I picked up the Tab Funkenwerk V78M I found I wasn't using it so much and sold it to grab the Demeter VTMP-2B. It's not as Vintage sounding as the 610, but has a kind of magic with FET and TLM mics. My favorite preamp for a BLUE Kiwi or U87AI. Still, I miss that Altec through it. I debate sometimes grabbing one for that purpose only.
I used to love my 610 on my Shure sm7. You basically needed to crank the thing, but because the Shure had such low output it didn’t distort as much as really warm up. It was great for vocals. Wish I still had it!
i own one for years and it gets used as my number 2 preamp if my number one preamp AML 1073 is already in use. i can't quite understand the sometimes harsh critique it receives. i find it not that hard to set to get a good sound out if it. yeah, it has like 4 knobs that you have to set and which can change the sound a lot: the little input gain knob, the big one, the comp knob and the output gain. all potentially can screw up your sound. but - repeating myself - i don't find it that hard to get the sound i am after. in fact i am quite happy that it offers such flexebility and such a vast palette of sound.
One of the most foolish things that I did when I had a load of cash in my pocket was not to buy the combo of the Beezneez Mahalia that was severely discounted to like $1100 and the UA LA-610 which I swear gave me a woody just listening to myself sing in the mic room at Dale Pro Audio in Jamaica, Queens, NYC. Fool I am, I am a fool.
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