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Post by ericn on Feb 12, 2020 18:48:03 GMT -6
The thing is when you consider Reverb gives you some protection and how easy it is to scam somebody especially across the boarder that protection becomes pretty valuable. Reverb also discounts shipping quite a bit, especially on larger items. And as a seller, I prefer Reverb 99% of the time - after you've been down a UPS hellhole with a lost shipment for a couple of weeks and then have a similar thing happen via Reverb and Reverb takes care of it THAT AFTERNOON, fvck it, I'm sold. See my thread in off topic about how long it takes a USPS envelope to cross the road!
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 12, 2020 19:16:55 GMT -6
I have sold several used items through Reverb recently - taxes yes - but also efficient including the $$ transferred to my bank. For one item I temporarily used a stock photo of my item - and they caught that - and suspended my post until I put in my actual photo - I was impressed by that - they were on the ball. I like Reverb a ton and use it 99% of the time for used gear these days. The debate I wasn't going to waste time on is double taxing sales. It's complete bullshit that iterative sales are taxed now on one piece of gear.
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Post by ragan on Feb 12, 2020 20:26:40 GMT -6
I like Reverb. It's a well designed/implemented platform that's easy to buy and sell on. Higher prices than something like local Craigslist but after years and years of dealing with that stuff I'm happy to be charged a little fee for a smooth, disconnected experience with protections. Too many drive-across-town-to-meet-a-sketchy-dude afternoons for me in the last 15 years.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 12, 2020 23:13:54 GMT -6
It’s funny how we all have our various Reverb experiences:) I’d say like 90% of my time selling on reverb, I seem to be dealing with really sketchy low balling people that are just a complete waste of my time:) So, much so that I am very jaundiced by it. I find it’s protection service very biased towards the buyer and hsve myself experienced and a friend too complete bs from buyer’s yet Reverb staff were not neutral in supporting the buyer when they were in the wrong. Conversely, I have had much better selling and buying experiences on GS, using PayPal and various shippers, although I do feel we get completely gouged for shipping fees. I am pleased to hear others are having good Reverb experiences, maybe I have just had bad luck ?
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Post by EmRR on Feb 13, 2020 7:30:59 GMT -6
The only shipping gouge I see is charging fees on price + shipping.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 13, 2020 9:01:20 GMT -6
I kind of wish Reverb would prevent sellers from listing at a super low price with the difference made up in $100 flat rate shipping, or whatever. Thinking of guitar pedals in particular. Who actually buys from these clowns?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 13, 2020 9:32:07 GMT -6
I kind of wish Reverb would prevent sellers from listing at a super low price with the difference made up in $100 flat rate shipping, or whatever. Thinking of guitar pedals in particular. Who actually buys from these clowns? This is the reason that reverb and ebay take the fees out of the shipping price too. People would try to cheat the system and avoid the fees by doing this stuff.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 13, 2020 9:51:20 GMT -6
I kind of wish Reverb would prevent sellers from listing at a super low price with the difference made up in $100 flat rate shipping, or whatever. Thinking of guitar pedals in particular. Who actually buys from these clowns? This is the reason that reverb and ebay take the fees out of the shipping price too. People would try to cheat the system and avoid the fees by doing this stuff. Sure, but, they could instead make everyone use shipping through their platform at actual price and not add fees to it. Ebay at least at one time would kill your listing for exorbitant shipping.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 13, 2020 10:14:48 GMT -6
There are many variables on collecting the sales tax Nexus. Each involved state has a dollar threshold as well as a # of transactions threshold. We have been tracking these since the beginning of last year. Thankfully we will likely and hopefully never hit the threshold for any state outside of TN. Big sellers like Reverb and eBay are of course way over these thresholds. California was the only state we were getting close on and they since raised the threshold to $500k which will never happen for us.
The burden of filing for status in each of the states and filing multiple sales tax returns is a MAJOR PITA.
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Post by jsteiger on Feb 13, 2020 10:21:26 GMT -6
My wife just read an article from Feb 7th 2020 that 40 out of the 50 states have enacted economic nexus laws.
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Post by ericn on Feb 13, 2020 10:23:57 GMT -6
There are many variables on collecting the sales tax Nexus. Each involved state has a dollar threshold as well as a # of transactions threshold. We have been tracking these since the beginning of last year. Thankfully we will likely and hopefully never hit the threshold for any state outside of TN. Big sellers like Reverb and eBay are of course way over these thresholds. California was the only state we were getting close on and they since raised the threshold to $500k which will never happen for us. The burden of filing for status in each of the states and filing returns is a MAJOR PITA. Hey Jeff Just wait for all the little tax districts that over lap in some states to figure out they deserve to collect sales tax they are due, I think we figured out my address had 4 different sales taxing districts and the building across the street 6 ! These districts will set super low threshold s because they are so small and the only ones who will profit will be the accountants and software companies. Everybody knew this was going to happen at some point, hell 20 years ago Full Compass’s in house software was set up to collect sales tax including county by zip code. It took 20 years for the courts to rule it was time to flick the switch.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 13, 2020 10:29:06 GMT -6
This is the reason that reverb and ebay take the fees out of the shipping price too. People would try to cheat the system and avoid the fees by doing this stuff. Sure, but, they could instead make everyone use shipping through their platform at actual price and not add fees to it. Ebay at least at one time would kill your listing for exorbitant shipping. The issue with that is that everyone needs to pack their own stuff in that case. I always bring my packages to UPS and pay for them to pack it so that if it breaks, I should be covered.
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Post by swafford on Feb 13, 2020 10:35:35 GMT -6
I kind of wish Reverb would prevent sellers from listing at a super low price with the difference made up in $100 flat rate shipping, or whatever. Thinking of guitar pedals in particular. Who actually buys from these clowns? I'll do that on international sales since Reverb doesn't do automatic estimates on shipping to your location. But I'll also state in the first line of the description that you need to contact me for an actual shipping quote. I've had many more people contact me about the exorbitant shipping who did not bother to read the actual sale description than people contact me for a actual shipping quote. Weird, right? Other than calculating shipping for every possible location worldwide, I don't really see away around this.
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Post by svart on Feb 13, 2020 10:48:43 GMT -6
If you receive benefit and service, I understand the tax, if you don’t, I don’t. Taxes are not meant to be understood. They are meant to separate you from your cash. Pure and simple. Be glad you have decent health care and be happy about paying your Canadian taxes. If you want to help us pay ours, please feel free to buy US!! This. Per my other post in the other thread that got derailed, we're taxed at every single step in the process. Everything from the ground that's mined to the electricity to power the lights so you can see the product you want to buy, is taxed. They tax our labor and then they tax you on the money you pay to have your income taxes filed.. There is zero in life that isn't taxed, and somehow it's still not enough to satiate the monster of government, which demands we pay taxes across state lines now because it's realized it can just strong-arm more sales tax out of us all for it rather than deal with stupid things like "budgets". People in other countries pay 65% of their income in taxes, then pay VAT and all that on top of it and somehow they're proud of paying 70% of their income to live and get services that they'd actually pay less for in the free market.. And here we dumped tea in a harbor over 3% tax and now we're closing in on 45% taxes between income, SS, med-care/aide, etc, property, etc and even though raising taxes has never once fixed the problems that people promised they'd fix, we're at the cusp of now considering paying people money simply to exist, absolving unheard of amounts of debt, and simply pretending that human nature will somehow change if we just tax people a little more. You know, because "people should own the fruits of their labor", except when the government demands 30-65% of that fruit.
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Post by ericn on Feb 13, 2020 12:04:20 GMT -6
Sure, but, they could instead make everyone use shipping through their platform at actual price and not add fees to it. Ebay at least at one time would kill your listing for exorbitant shipping. The issue with that is that everyone needs to pack their own stuff in that case. I always bring my packages to UPS and pay for them to pack it so that if it breaks, I should be covered. I always give the option of UPS store professional packing, or me packing as a former professional. I useally ship USPS so it isn’t a problem and the one damage claim I ever had wasn’t a problem.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 13, 2020 12:10:52 GMT -6
I kind of wish Reverb would prevent sellers from listing at a super low price with the difference made up in $100 flat rate shipping, or whatever. Thinking of guitar pedals in particular. Who actually buys from these clowns? I'll do that on international sales since Reverb doesn't do automatic estimates on shipping to your location. But I'll also state in the first line of the description that you need to contact me for an actual shipping quote. I've had many more people contact me about the exorbitant shipping who did not bother to read the actual sale description than people contact me for a actual shipping quote. Weird, right? Other than calculating shipping for every possible location worldwide, I don't really see away around this. I don't know that we are talking about the same thing, I'm seeing US domestic sales wherein the seller is offering a $130 pedal at $30* but the S&H is $110.
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Post by svart on Feb 13, 2020 12:26:06 GMT -6
I'll do that on international sales since Reverb doesn't do automatic estimates on shipping to your location. But I'll also state in the first line of the description that you need to contact me for an actual shipping quote. I've had many more people contact me about the exorbitant shipping who did not bother to read the actual sale description than people contact me for a actual shipping quote. Weird, right? Other than calculating shipping for every possible location worldwide, I don't really see away around this. I don't know that we are talking about the same thing, I'm seeing US domestic sales wherein the seller is offering a $130 pedal at $30* but the S&H is $110. Because Reverb does not charge fees on shipping costs. The seller will pay fees on the 30$ rather than the 130$.
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Post by ericn on Feb 13, 2020 12:48:18 GMT -6
I don't know that we are talking about the same thing, I'm seeing US domestic sales wherein the seller is offering a $130 pedal at $30* but the S&H is $110. Because Reverb does not charge fees on shipping costs. The seller will pay fees on the 30$ rather than the 130$. Of course here is where the seller could be screwing himself, if the pedal is damaged in shipping the insurance company, no matter how much he insures the pedal for is only going to reimburse for $30 because there is a an invoice that says it’s value is $30.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 13, 2020 14:01:02 GMT -6
I don't know that we are talking about the same thing, I'm seeing US domestic sales wherein the seller is offering a $130 pedal at $30* but the S&H is $110. Because Reverb does not charge fees on shipping costs. The seller will pay fees on the 30$ rather than the 130$. They do charge fees on the shipping cost though.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 13, 2020 14:01:57 GMT -6
I don't know that we are talking about the same thing, I'm seeing US domestic sales wherein the seller is offering a $130 pedal at $30* but the S&H is $110. Because Reverb does not charge fees on shipping costs. The seller will pay fees on the 30$ rather than the 130$. For me it's spamming the system and they'll never get my order. Penny wise, pound foolish.
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Post by brenta on Feb 13, 2020 14:34:56 GMT -6
Reverb has been a godsend for me. I've had a couple situations where my items were damaged during shipping and Reverb actually covered the repairs with no arguing. With EBay I got screwed a couple times, they will side with the buyer no matter what, and it doesn't matter what your "store policy" says or what you wrote in the description. Even if you escalate it your case is usually decided by a robot. Reverb fees are also about half of ebay/paypal so more money in my pocket too.
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Post by svart on Feb 13, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -6
Because Reverb does not charge fees on shipping costs. The seller will pay fees on the 30$ rather than the 130$. They do charge fees on the shipping cost though. Yeah, you're right, I see that now. Apparently the page I originally found said nothing about fees on shipping but another page I found just now did. Strange.
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Post by matt@IAA on Feb 14, 2020 8:06:54 GMT -6
Too many drive-across-town-to-meet-a-sketchy-dude afternoons for me in the last 15 years. Not to mention buying audio gear. 😂
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Post by svart on Feb 14, 2020 9:04:28 GMT -6
Too many drive-across-town-to-meet-a-sketchy-dude afternoons for me in the last 15 years. Not to mention buying audio gear. 😂 Savage. I like it.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 14, 2020 9:28:57 GMT -6
Not to mention buying audio gear. 😂 Savage. I like it. I enjoyed meeting Ragan, and don't see what the problem is.
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