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Post by paulcheeba on Dec 23, 2022 4:48:13 GMT -6
i understand the frustration but Ii believe you just need a little daughter board that accepts the pin out of the cell( circular) but has its own pin out that mates with your comp. You could even hardwire this and just heat glue the cell in place. The tech just needs to get the leads by pin out right. Yes plug and play it ain’t, so yes you must understand the frustration. So can you get me the pin out and instructions please so I can get some use out of these increasingly expensive units. I also spent £ 700 on UTC xformers so it’s been a costly project triggered by bad research and marketing on bLA’s part. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 23, 2022 8:17:22 GMT -6
You should take the unit and cell to a proper tech with the schematic sk they can test the signsl flow and wire it up properly.
The pin out and in are simply the the metal pins on bottom of cell snd the holes in the pcb throughwhole in your unit.
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Post by sean on Dec 23, 2022 8:27:08 GMT -6
i understand the frustration but Ii believe you just need a little daughter board that accepts the pin out of the cell( circular) but has its own pin out that mates with your comp. You could even hardwire this and just heat glue the cell in place. The tech just needs to get the leads by pin out right. Yes plug and play it ain’t, so yes you must understand the frustration. So can you get me the pin out and instructions please so I can get some use out of these increasingly expensive units. I also spent £ 700 on UTC xformers so it’s been a costly project triggered by bad research and marketing on bLA’s part. How old is your ADL-1500? There was a circuit board change at some point and it's possible Anthony is no longer using the traditional/more universal "cans" at some point. Hopefully he'll be understanding and share that information with you...I doubt he'd share a schematic, however. Have you tried the compressor with original opto's and new transformers? I wasn't a fan of the "box tone" of the ADL-1500 so had the input and output transformers replaced, but the response of the opto seems pretty identical to my LA-2A. I was actually thinking about getting a pair of the "fast" opto's from Kenetek just to make it a bit different. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Dec 23, 2022 21:35:47 GMT -6
Anthony is closing and shared the schematics so what you’re saying is not true. His circuit was always a unique based on the La2a but not a socketed design. I have been misled and trying to worm your way out is not cool and I expect compensation after Xmas.
Edit sorry I see you don’t work for them.
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Post by paulcheeba on Dec 23, 2022 21:41:11 GMT -6
You should take the unit and cell to a proper tech with the schematic sk they can test the signsl flow and wire it up properly. The pin out and in are simply the the metal pins on bottom of cell snd the holes in the pcb throughwhole in your unit. Which is one of the avenues I am obviously pursuing. |
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Post by sean on Dec 23, 2022 22:20:20 GMT -6
Anthony is closing and shared the schematics so what you’re saying is not true. His circuit was always a unique based on the La2a but not a socketed design. I have been misled and trying to worm your way out is not cool and I expect compensation after Xmas. Edit sorry I see you don’t work for them. Definitely don’t work for Anthony or Black Lion, but I know the more recent ADL-1500’s have an updated PCB compared to the originals, which is why I mentioned it…and also why I asked if you had tried your unit with the transformers changed and the stock optocoupler before trying a replacement because I personally found the stock options to behave very similarly to my LA-2A and didn’t feel like they need replaced… But I agree that I would expect BLA or whoever distributes their products to give you a refund Also glad to hear Anthony was willing to share a schematic I’ll be sure to message him and try to get a scan in case I ever have issues with mine in the future |
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Post by jonhaber on Dec 24, 2022 16:12:33 GMT -6
You should take the unit and cell to a proper tech with the schematic sk they can test the signsl flow and wire it up properly. The pin out and in are simply the the metal pins on bottom of cell snd the holes in the pcb throughwhole in your unit. Which is one of the avenues I am obviously pursuing. Hi. I can help you. I sent you a pm. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Dec 25, 2022 17:43:47 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! I believe they are taking them back to base as a solution for me.
Anthony Demaria was also very helpful and sent me designs etc. Sad to say he is closing down.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Dec 26, 2022 23:37:21 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! I believe they are taking them back to base as a solution for me. Anthony Demaria was also very helpful and sent me designs etc. Sad to say he is closing down. Highland Dynamics as well. Bummer. |
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 27, 2022 0:59:12 GMT -6
The EU banned all cadmium sales in 2011 so in reality opto compressors are illegal to sell in europe. No government agencies have seemed to pick up on this yet but it is only a matter of time. Gyraf Audio gets around this by selling you the unit but only loaning you the opto attenuators which must be returned to them when the item is scrapped
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 27, 2022 1:04:29 GMT -6
The EU banned all cadmium sales in 2011 so in reality opto compressors are illegal to sell in europe. No government agencies have seemed to pick up on this yet but it is only a matter of time. Gyraf Audio gets around this by selling you the unit but only loaning you the opto attenuators which must be returned to them when the item is scrapped that is hilarious, Tim - the way Gyraf gets around it, that is. |
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Post by seawell on Dec 27, 2022 2:22:56 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! I believe they are taking them back to base as a solution for me. Anthony Demaria was also very helpful and sent me designs etc. Sad to say he is closing down. Highland Dynamics as well. Bummer. Oh no! I heard Highland Dynamics was selling direct now but didn’t hear about possibly closing down 😔 |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Dec 27, 2022 10:54:48 GMT -6
Highland Dynamics as well. Bummer. Oh no! I heard Highland Dynamics was selling direct now but didn’t hear about possibly closing down 😔 I had a deposit down with VK for like seven or eight months trying to get an HG2 and that was the final feedback I got from VK last week when they refunded me. |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 27, 2022 12:01:22 GMT -6
Oh no! I heard Highland Dynamics was selling direct now but didn’t hear about possibly closing down 😔 I had a deposit down with VK for like seven or eight months trying to get an HG2 and that was the final feedback I got from VK last week when they refunded me. Does that tell us kids are sold on using plugins? Or perhaps budgets are so constricted $3K to $4K on a single channel of compression is financially unrealistic for so many creatives these days? I've bought some high end kit over the years, but todays prices have got away from me, I'm not dropping $5K on a UA LA2A RI (for example) |
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Post by ericn on Dec 27, 2022 12:05:09 GMT -6
I had a deposit down with VK for like seven or eight months trying to get an HG2 and that was the final feedback I got from VK last week when they refunded me. Does that tell us kids are sold on using plugins? Or perhaps budgets are so constricted $3K to $4K on a single channel of compression is financially unrealistic for so many creatives these days? I've bought some high end kit over the years, but todays prices have got away from me, I'm not dropping $5K on a UA LA2A RI (for example) Nah just that kids are to broke for hardware 😁 |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 27, 2022 12:21:49 GMT -6
Does that tell us kids are sold on using plugins? Or perhaps budgets are so constricted $3K to $4K on a single channel of compression is financially unrealistic for so many creatives these days? I've bought some high end kit over the years, but todays prices have got away from me, I'm not dropping $5K on a UA LA2A RI (for example) Nah just that kids are to broke for hardware 😁 Probably make that most of us! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 27, 2022 12:35:16 GMT -6
That’s why god gave us 2 kidneys !  |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 27, 2022 14:49:31 GMT -6
That’s why god gave us 2 kidneys ! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 27, 2022 20:52:47 GMT -6
I wouldn't put anything with the "Black Lion Audio" logo in my signal path. There, I've said it. That's a bit harsh I think. I have the full BLA mod in my UAD Apollo, and it's taken it from something that always bugged me to something I don't notice anymore. That kind of "don't notice" is the highest compliment. Typically when you go to a 3 or 4 star restaurant, you "don't notice" the service because it's flawless. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Dec 29, 2022 22:04:49 GMT -6
They are already on the case I believe.
I’ve only had good experiences in the past. This is my first bad one which surprises me. I’ve had bigger trouble from more established companies.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jan 7, 2023 22:26:59 GMT -6
Feel like I’ve been fobbed off with these incompatible T4BLA’S. Radio silence now.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2023 7:01:07 GMT -6
I thought they were refunding you?
It seems a mess as if they are not a drop in and or don’t actually work with your unit. That’s not right ?
Earlier, in the thread, it referenced that your board maybe or is different, so doesn’t have the standard socket.
Did you ever get a quote for just having one sister boarded in: plug and play afterthat?
Have you asked whether bla will just do that for you?
Unless, the cells are defective and or wired very differently and or the your unit’s power connections for the cells is somehow not standard, the fix shouldn’t be complimicated for a good tech: schematic, MM, soldering gun ?
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Post by raddistribution on Jan 8, 2023 11:20:22 GMT -6
Feel like I’ve been fobbed off with these incompatible T4BLA’S. Radio silence now. Hi Paul Thanks for sending that invoice over. Our office will handle as soon as they get in Monday morning. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jan 8, 2023 18:49:06 GMT -6
Thanks for requesting an invoice. I’ll be happy when it’s resolved. These niggles accumulate and become a drag.
Anyway they don’t really need replacing and I could just get new flat bulbs and use the existing cases. Again it’s a mod I can’t be bothered with, I am just putting the UTC xformers in which should take the sound to a more authentic place. I just liked the sound online and they were the only company at the time that offered direct replacement’s which has since been amended.
So hopefully it all gets sorted swiftly so I can get back to making music and stop being a little bitch.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 9, 2023 6:37:32 GMT -6
Well, it sounds like its been a real pita, that should have been resolved quickly: seems you have spent a lot of hours chasing down a solution, when the gear should have just worked as advertised, that’s why you bought it.
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