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Post by ardis on Sept 9, 2014 14:21:05 GMT -6
Wondering if there's more feedback from those with the hardware. I am really loving this plug in and am thinking of getting his Gates emulation.
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Post by donr on Sept 9, 2014 14:45:54 GMT -6
Wondering if there's more feedback from those with the hardware. I am really loving this plug in and am thinking of getting his Gates emulation. I have the plug, but haven't been able to get much gain reduction without a lot of distortion. I wonder if it's software incompatibility with Digital Performer or my computer, or what. |
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Post by ardis on Sept 10, 2014 9:36:09 GMT -6
In my experience the meter is worthless. You should tune it by ear and gain stage it carefully. I actually find if the needle is moving it may be distorting, so really use your ears (and the on/off switch!). It is actually doing a lot without the needle moving. Also using the sidechain helps a lot if the bass is causing distortion. Anyway, see what you think! Hope this helps.....
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 10, 2014 9:46:51 GMT -6
You wouldn't think the meter would be a hard fix...
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Post by donr on Sept 10, 2014 12:00:24 GMT -6
In my experience the meter is worthless. You should tune it by ear and gain stage it carefully. I actually find if the needle is moving it may be distorting, so really use your ears (and the on/off switch!). It is actually doing a lot without the needle moving. Also using the sidechain helps a lot if the bass is causing distortion. Anyway, see what you think! Hope this helps..... Thanks for the tip, ardis. I'll try it again. |
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Post by lpedrum on Sept 10, 2014 16:10:30 GMT -6
I bought the Sknote plate plugin a while back because I thought the samples sounded better than any plate plugin I'd heard. Unfortunately it wouldn't work with my Cubase/Mac setup and he quickly gave me a refund. I'm a little gun-shy to try the Sta Level for that reason. Any current feedback on how the plugins are working with Cubase would be much appreciated.
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Post by ardis on Sept 11, 2014 10:20:32 GMT -6
Quinto is really great with refunds and reselling. He definitely is quirky and seems very ADD. A lot of things going on, and a bit of a mad genius. I do know that some of his emulations work on some systems, not others. For example "Presence" didn't like Mixbus. His reverbs seem to be one of the areas where it's more hit or miss. I'd try the STA and do the refund thing if it doesn't work. He understands it's the cost of doing business and honestly, is a great tool. His Strip and Rev 250 are very cool also. Heartily recommended, and I have 0 affiliation with him (other than a love for all things Italian!)
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Post by deehope on Aug 6, 2015 18:00:50 GMT -6
Just a heads up for everyone that bought this. The meters are fixed and it generally sounds better with the new update. I think it's also aax now. Check your user area.
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Post by EmRR on Aug 6, 2015 21:00:12 GMT -6
Man, SA-39 would be tough, they all sound different, I've owned 6 and worked on as many more for others. They only made them for 25 years, with a ton of different transformer variations.
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Post by Randge on Aug 6, 2015 22:06:09 GMT -6
I have the SKNote STA plug. Not a fan. It doesn't do anything resembling an actual STA. On top of it, it was a complete pita to load and get working. Plugs suck. Buy an actual STA and quit hoping some plug will get you there. It isn't gonna happen.
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Post by ardis on Aug 19, 2015 14:13:27 GMT -6
Anyone try the updated version yet?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 19, 2015 14:59:17 GMT -6
I'm curious about this as well. How does the sound compare after the update?
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Post by deehope on Aug 19, 2015 20:06:02 GMT -6
Cowboy would be the best person to ask.
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Post by Randge on Aug 19, 2015 21:19:53 GMT -6
I did the update. Still not a fan.
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Post by quintosardo on Aug 20, 2015 0:28:54 GMT -6
I have the SKNote STA plug. Not a fan. It doesn't do anything resembling an actual STA. On top of it, it was a complete pita to load and get working. Plugs suck. Buy an actual STA and quit hoping some plug will get you there. It isn't gonna happen. R Wow, a pita? Copying a file in a directory? No authorization, nothing? We need to find a simpler system  "Doesn't do anything resembling an actual STA"? Really? I mean, really? A small audio sample, dry and wet would be interesting here. Do you use an hw STA? Let's do it! Come on!  This update had several strong improvements: - Faster, really faster on cpu - Improved response on low range, both condensers modeling (more extension in very low range) and transformer model (STA typical harmonics in very low range) - Improved transients, with a smoother attack (STA behaviour is a mix of its 25ms atk compression and its circuits' saturation on attacks) - Smoother dynamic frequency response - More useful calibration. STA has a saturation which depends on calibration of compression sensitivity. First version was calibrated too hot, with too much saturation (everybody wants saturation today). This one is more useful, with saturation just on overshoots. Clean even on extremely dynamic sources like a strummed, clean electric guitar. "Buy an actual STA"? Yes, of course! But I'm not in the "SW vs HW" battle. That's why we produce hw. Anyway, come on, let's do some audio comparisons instead of writing! Not a sample by me, something that makes a hw unit shine! |
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Post by quintosardo on Aug 20, 2015 0:33:34 GMT -6
Man, SA-39 would be tough, they all sound different, I've owned 6 and worked on as many more for others. They only made them for 25 years, with a ton of different transformer variations. Our GTS-39 is done from that one. An unit from year 1949, in Rome. Yes, there are a lot of different custom versions. This one had only release time control. We added "hold" control and sidechain filters in the model. |
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Post by EmRR on Aug 20, 2015 6:50:08 GMT -6
Thanks. To be clear, not even custom variations, all stock. There are 3 major circuit variations, on top of various audio transformers used across 25 years time.
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Post by Randge on Aug 20, 2015 8:19:49 GMT -6
I have the SKNote STA plug. Not a fan. It doesn't do anything resembling an actual STA. On top of it, it was a complete pita to load and get working. Plugs suck. Buy an actual STA and quit hoping some plug will get you there. It isn't gonna happen. R Wow, a pita? Copying a file in a directory? No authorization, nothing? We need to find a simpler system "Doesn't do anything resembling an actual STA"? Really? I mean, really? A small audio sample, dry and wet would be interesting here. Do you use an hw STA? Let's do it! Come on! This update had several strong improvements: - Faster, really faster on cpu - Improved response on low range, both condensers modeling (more extension in very low range) and transformer model (STA typical harmonics in very low range) - Improved transients, with a smoother attack (STA behaviour is a mix of its 25ms atk compression and its circuits' saturation on attacks) - Smoother dynamic frequency response - More useful calibration. STA has a saturation which depends on calibration of compression sensitivity. First version was calibrated too hot, with too much saturation (everybody wants saturation today). This one is more useful, with saturation just on overshoots. Clean even on extremely dynamic sources like a strummed, clean electric guitar. "Buy an actual STA"? Yes, of course! But I'm not in the "SW vs HW" battle. That's why we produce hw. Anyway, come on, let's do some audio comparisons instead of writing! Not a sample by me, something that makes a hw unit shine! Yes, that is my opinion and I am certainly entitled to it. I am around world class opto and VariMu compressors every day as I am a session musician who is in world class facilities often and I also own my own fairly well equipped studio. I have used 7 different Original Sta's and 3 Retro Instrument Sta's in the past two years alone. The best one being a mint condition dark grey 1950's one. It belongs to Jim Gilmore and he lets me use it if I need it. There is a Gates Dual Limiter here now, several RCA 6386 based comps as well as Retro stuff, so, yeah, I do know what an actual Sta that is running correctly is supposed to sound like. As for the other issues regarding your plugin, I had lots of problems and had to email you several times before it was rectified and able to load. I have over 200 plugins now and have very rarely had issues like that with any other companies, boutique or not. To add to that, I would have to wait to receive emails from you before anything further could be done about it. You finally just sent me a DL file and it was finally able to be loaded. Once I did get it running, I found the meter to be way off and it sounded absolutely horrible and smashed sounding when barely seeing the meter move. I did the update that I was alerted to in my email and while it fixed some of the issues, the actual tone that it imparts is nothing like a well running Sta to my ears. It sounds more like a DBX 160, only more cloudy and grainy. So, again I state my opinion, there is no substitute for a real Sta that is working correctly. While I applaud you for making affordable plugin's for people to buy, I wonder how many people that have never had the good fortune to hear a real Sta doing its thing, take this plugin as a real representation of what they actually sound like. I am rather busy at the present time, but will try to post files when my workload lets up. |
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Post by ericn on Aug 20, 2015 17:33:18 GMT -6
Over the past years I have gotten to know Randy's ears, while we don't always agree on an approach or method, Qualitatively I trust his judgement and if he says I something ain't right I trust his judgment !
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 20, 2015 20:35:13 GMT -6
Please do post a little something when you can Randge, I'd really appreciate hearing this.
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