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Post by mike on Dec 27, 2020 12:15:07 GMT -6
I didnt know that Thiersch makes k47 capsules
Flea sends the capsule backplates for their f47/k47 to Mr. Thiersch for skinning |
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Post by chessparov on Dec 27, 2020 15:57:08 GMT -6
My natural voice-though bright, is very mellow. So a Croon'n we shall go! M7 capsules/Ribbons and Soundeluxes set on FAT. That sort of thang.  Chris |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Dec 30, 2020 17:47:15 GMT -6
I bet your Flea 47 sounds amazing with the Thiersch Blue Line PVC M7 capsule. My experience w/ the Blue line capsule is great. My blue line capsule is in a custom FET transformer coupled output mic that sounds larger than life thru my RTZ Audio 9762 Dual. Mic even sounds good going in an Apollo interface pre. Yeah, i really like the sound of the Blue line M7 , is just my voice that is very soft , and has a bump in 200hz , and for pop style i always have to cut in 200hz and boost mids at 1.6khz. With the K47 its a little bit more easy to make my voice fit it in the mix. But as Timcampell says , sometimes i reach for the M7 to have that vintage flavor. I definitely keep them both for sure , alongside with my Shure Sm7b that i also love Interesting that you are having to boost your mids on an M7 but again you said you voice is soft. Mine used to be more deep when I smoked but it’s still considered baritone now esp when rapping. What preamp are you using? My RTZ would be considered Neve Esque. If you are using something clean for pop I could see why I cut the 1-2kHz sometimes & you boost the 1.6 kHz. My RTZ I like around 40 dialing back the output to about 3-4 o clock so it adds some grit when you get on it can really help cut thru busy modern music tracks. |
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Post by lmnproyect on Jan 5, 2021 16:48:41 GMT -6
My vocal Chaín Is: U47 (k47 CAP)/ SM7b -- Heritage 1073 preamp (boost 3.2khz)-- capi 550 clone (boost 1.6khz)-- 1176 proreplicas silverface Rev H -- proreplicas pultecs ( 12khz) to mytek ADC 192.
I like very mid focus vocals ala John Mayer with very few lows. I feel M7 has less mids in 1khz than K47 capsule. M7 also Is more delicate sound. In general M7 sounds a Little bit scooped compared to K47 in my batirone voice
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Post by Guitar on Jan 5, 2021 16:57:44 GMT -6
I had a Peluso 2247 SE and I liked the K-47 that was in there. That mic got a ton of air time on singers while I had it. Don't have any M7 yet but I was thinking of buying some Thiersch and building them out. I'd probably get the mylar one, not the PVC one, just for long term consistency.
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Post by Vincent R. on Sept 24, 2022 8:36:28 GMT -6
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Post by thehightenor on Sept 24, 2022 11:47:17 GMT -6
For my voice M7 all day long.
It has that lovely iconic reedy forward mids I love so much on a tenor voice.
Call me old fashioned but when I think of a U47 I think of an M7 caspule.
The M7 in my Wunder CM7 is now 15 years old and has mellowed beautifully - combined with the Coil CA-70 it's a thing of beauty to my ears.
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Post by robschnapf on Sept 25, 2022 10:13:42 GMT -6
K47 works more often generally on a lot of things.
The M7 is specific.
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Post by drbill on Sept 25, 2022 13:48:50 GMT -6
K47 works more often generally on a lot of things. The M7 is specific. When it comes to my Heiserman H47T (I've got both head baskets) I'd agree. K47 is a great all rounder. On my Gefell M7 equipped mics, the M7 is wonderful on so many things. They are solid state mics though. Not 47 clones. |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 25, 2022 15:44:43 GMT -6
An M7 was used for the original Broadway Cast recording of...
South Specific.
The hit Musical by Rogers and Heiserman.
Chris
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Post by robschnapf on Sept 25, 2022 17:00:17 GMT -6
K47 works more often generally on a lot of things. The M7 is specific. When it comes to my Heiserman H47T (I've got both head baskets) I'd agree. K47 is a great all rounder. On my Gefell M7 equipped mics, the M7 is wonderful on so many things. They are solid state mics though. Not 47 clones. So in other words I really like my strat in this deluxe specially when it’s my tele in this princeton |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 25, 2022 17:05:08 GMT -6
Reminds me how I miss having any Reese's Peanut Butter cups...
Chris
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Post by drbill on Sept 25, 2022 17:06:40 GMT -6
When it comes to my Heiserman H47T (I've got both head baskets) I'd agree. K47 is a great all rounder. On my Gefell M7 equipped mics, the M7 is wonderful on so many things. They are solid state mics though. Not 47 clones. So in other words I really like my strat in this deluxe specially when it’s my tele in this Princeton Obviously!!! |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 25, 2022 23:14:35 GMT -6
My natural voice-though bright, is very mellow. So a Croon'n we shall go! M7 capsules/Ribbons and Soundeluxes set on FAT. That sort of thang. Chris Been a while. Usually my U195 sounds better in FLAT now. FAT for a "Character" vocal ala R&B/Soul. Chris |
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Post by Vincent R. on Sept 26, 2022 7:53:42 GMT -6
Well, I've done a few tests and I have some thoughts on this now. Hoping to film a video on Tuesday night with some crooning and opera samples, and get it out in the next couple of weeks. I'm also going to try each of these next to my Pearlman TM-1. My Pearlman has a Neumann K47 in it, and my early test with it seem to sound somewhere in between the FleA 47s. In vintage mode it even sounds more mellow than the FleA with the F7. Trying to get back into the swing of making videos here and there. I have another one to finish too. |
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Post by thehightenor on Sept 27, 2022 1:19:04 GMT -6
My vocal Chaín Is: U47 (k47 CAP)/ SM7b -- Heritage 1073 preamp (boost 3.2khz)-- capi 550 clone (boost 1.6khz)-- 1176 proreplicas silverface Rev H -- proreplicas pultecs ( 12khz) to mytek ADC 192. I like very mid focus vocals ala John Mayer with very few lows. I feel M7 has less mids in 1khz than K47 capsule. M7 also Is more delicate sound. In general M7 sounds a Little bit scooped compared to K47 in my batirone voice I love that commitment to EQ and 1176 compression when tracking. I also go between U47 (CM7) /SM7b as my two mics (same a Don Henley, Paul McCartney) those two mics are such a popular choice for male vocalists. I have a bright tenor voice, so your EQ moves are kinda pre EQ's into my vocals! I need to cool the tip of the flame (so to speak) so I go, CM7 /SM7B > Coil CA-70 > Retro STA Level > HEDD 192. Then when I'm mixing 1073 cut at 220Hz 3db and I'll add some more compression either an LA2A or 1176 if I want a bit more poke. I should try doing the 1073 cut at the tracking stage and see if using a hardware 1073 beats out my UAD 1073 plugin. I love John Mayer's vocals - great stylised singer and all round genius musician! |
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Post by Vincent R. on Sept 27, 2022 4:55:17 GMT -6
So, I did the recordings for my video last night. It’s funny, I genuinely prefer the K47 in the M49, but I like the M7 in the U47. So far I’ve found I like each capsule for different purposes. The M7 shines on intimate vocals, like crooned ballads, etc. The K47 works better on my operattic vocals. I’d say the K47 is a better general use capsule, while the M7 is more specific, at least in regards to the U47 circuit. The M7 can get a touch mellow on top sometimes. On a bright voice that’s probably a plus. I like the robustness of the M7 when I’m crooning. It has that old school sound that feels “like a record” in that style. It looses some detail when I step back and am wailing at 100+ dB in full voice. At that point my voice is more robust and needs more detail. Anyway, I’ll post the video once I’m done mixing and editing the samples and video.
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Post by paulcheeba on Sept 29, 2022 14:28:40 GMT -6
So, I did the recordings for my video last night. It’s funny, I genuinely prefer the K47 in the M49, but I like the M7 in the U47. So far I’ve found I like each capsule for different purposes. The M7 shines on intimate vocals, like crooned ballads, etc. The K47 works better on my operattic vocals. I’d say the K47 is a better general use capsule, while the M7 is more specific, at least in regards to the U47 circuit. The M7 can get a touch mellow on top sometimes. On a bright voice that’s probably a plus. I like the robustness of the M7 when I’m crooning. It has that old school sound that feels “like a record” in that style. It looses some detail when I step back and am wailing at 100+ dB in full voice. At that point my voice is more robust and needs more detail. Anyway, I’ll post the video once I’m done mixing and editing the samples and video. Yes the F7 sounds really bad in an m49 but okay in a 47. A F47 sounds better in both though. A K7 by Beeznees sounds much better than both by far. |
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Post by ericn on Sept 29, 2022 15:56:18 GMT -6
So, I did the recordings for my video last night. It’s funny, I genuinely prefer the K47 in the M49, but I like the M7 in the U47. So far I’ve found I like each capsule for different purposes. The M7 shines on intimate vocals, like crooned ballads, etc. The K47 works better on my operattic vocals. I’d say the K47 is a better general use capsule, while the M7 is more specific, at least in regards to the U47 circuit. The M7 can get a touch mellow on top sometimes. On a bright voice that’s probably a plus. I like the robustness of the M7 when I’m crooning. It has that old school sound that feels “like a record” in that style. It looses some detail when I step back and am wailing at 100+ dB in full voice. At that point my voice is more robust and needs more detail. Anyway, I’ll post the video once I’m done mixing and editing the samples and video. Yes the F7 sounds really bad in an m49 but okay in a 47. A F47 sounds better in both though. A K7 by Beeznees sounds much better than both by far. I’m waiting for som nut case ( probably me) to put an old Gefell M7 in a good 49 clone😜 |
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Post by Chad on Sept 29, 2022 20:15:12 GMT -6
Yes the F7 sounds really bad in an m49 but okay in a 47. A F47 sounds better in both though. A K7 by Beeznees sounds much better than both by far. I’m waiting for som nut case ( probably me) to put an old Gefell M7 in a good 49 clone😜 I’ve thought about it myself, as you know, ericn. ;-) |
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Post by ericn on Sept 29, 2022 20:28:19 GMT -6
I’m waiting for som nut case ( probably me) to put an old Gefell M7 in a good 49 clone😜 I’ve thought about it myself, as you know, ericn. ;-) That’s right, your as nuts as I am. Of course I mean that as the highest most sincere compliment 😎 |
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Post by Chad on Sept 29, 2022 20:43:36 GMT -6
I’ve thought about it myself, as you know, ericn. ;-) That’s right, your as nuts as I am. Of course I mean that as the highest most sincere compliment 😎 🙏🏼 😉 |
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Post by drbill on Sept 30, 2022 6:47:20 GMT -6
Yes the F7 sounds really bad in an m49 but okay in a 47. A F47 sounds better in both though. A K7 by Beeznees sounds much better than both by far. I’m waiting for som nut case ( probably me) to put an old Gefell M7 in a good 49 clone😜 I don't think you would be the first Eric. Back in the day when the 47's started to fail and get old, I heard of many UM70's giving up their lives for 47's. |
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