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Post by M57 on Jan 25, 2020 5:19:22 GMT -6
oeksound.com/plugins/soothe2/I find that I'm not really using my version 1 plugin these days, in large part becasue I felt like I couldn't use it surgically enough and it was a CPU hog ..but there are a lot of improvements that might convince me to use it again. Lower CPU, attack and release, and better bandwidth and band-type controls. The entry price seems a little steep, but the upgrade price is not unreasonable. Not that I appreciate having to pay for ANY upgrades. They don't offer the original soothe any more, so in my mind it's the same product. ..any takers (~$220) or upgraders (~$55)?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 25, 2020 9:27:48 GMT -6
It was a ton of work, I’m sure. I don’t mind the upgrade for a one person show. I appreciate something like Luna being free...of course, that is for ulterior motives.
Anyway, I’m like you - I haven’t used it a ton. Kind’ve found that it’s more of a bandaid than a cure...and there was a fine line between too much and too little. Like to try this one, though.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 25, 2020 16:15:07 GMT -6
Has anyone compared it to brainworx bx_Refine or any other de-harshing plugins? This is a category of processors I'm not very familiar with.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jan 27, 2020 18:32:08 GMT -6
Has anyone compared it to brainworx bx_Refine or any other de-harshing plugins? This is a category of processors I'm not very familiar with. I’ve compared both extensively. Refinement is more of a one-trick pony, but it’s an awesome trick. I often have it scattered all over my mixes, sometimes instantiated twice or even three times on a single track. A little goes a long way, and it’s good to be gentle with it. I find it very useful for combatting “general” harshness and helping to mellow things out and push things “back” in the mix. A smidge usually sounds good on everything. Soothe is a much deeper plugin and much more specific overall. To me, it really excels with more delicate tracks (i.e. vocals) and really problematic, overly harsh sources like cymbals and acoustic guitars, where you have washy, annoying resonances all throughout the frequency spectrum. You have a lot more control over the exact problem area and how much you pull it back. Both of these are indispensable tools for me for different reasons. |
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Post by roundbadge on Jan 28, 2020 3:59:52 GMT -6
soothe 2 is cool.using it all the time
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Post by svart on Jan 28, 2020 9:12:56 GMT -6
I just freaking bought Soothe. WTF.
Anyway, yeah it's something that seems to work on some issues very well, but others not so much. It did really fix up some guitars I was having trouble with, as well as some female vocals, but I couldn't get it to work right on cymbals though.
I really wanted to try their Spiff plugin, but at 175$US and the fact that Soothe didn't turn out to be quite as beneficial as I expected, I'm not sure I'll take the dive on it.
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Post by levon on Jan 28, 2020 10:18:00 GMT -6
I love Soothe on vocals and electric guitars. If you want to find out what it can do, check out Eric Valentine's video on his production with Slash. And while you're at it, check what Spiff does to his bass track. Spiff is now definitely on my list.
Off topic: In this video, he's also comparing the Lisson Grove plugin to his Unfairchild hardware. Tempting - both of them  |
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Post by levon on Jan 28, 2020 10:21:48 GMT -6
The good thing about Eric's videos is, you can see his settings, which frequencies he looks at and how he treats them. I have copied his settings for certain plugins in the past and used that as a starting point for my tracks. Very helpful.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Jan 28, 2020 10:37:15 GMT -6
Mid/side mode(!)
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Covers the entire frequency spectrum(!)
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Attack/release controls(!)
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Soft and hard modes(!)
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AWESOME!!!
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Post by trakworxmastering on Jan 28, 2020 10:55:22 GMT -6
Question to anyone who's installed this update: Does it replace the old version or do both versions remain? Thinking about session recall...
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Post by svart on Jan 28, 2020 11:01:45 GMT -6
I love Soothe on vocals and electric guitars. If you want to find out what it can do, check out Eric Valentine's video on his production with Slash. And while you're at it, check what Spiff does to his bass track. Spiff is now definitely on my list.
Off topic: In this video, he's also comparing the Lisson Grove plugin to his Unfairchild hardware. Tempting - both of them Started watching.. Waited for the big hit.. What a wimpy, wimpy snare drum sound for a track that wants to sound so big. |
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Post by mcirish on Jan 28, 2020 11:08:33 GMT -6
Has anyone compared it to brainworx bx_Refine or any other de-harshing plugins? This is a category of processors I'm not very familiar with. Yes, I have used both. Soothe is by far the best tool for taming random harshness. I can't wait to get the updated version. I just never got anything I liked from bx_refine. Either it didn't do anything or I lost all clarity. I was very happy with Soothe. It is a CPU hog but they are said to have improved that. No-brainer for me. I love it as the very last thing on a vocal buss. using just a touch, it really helps keep a vocal up front without poking through the mix too much. |
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Post by Darren Boling on Jan 28, 2020 11:36:38 GMT -6
Question to anyone who's installed this update: Does it replace the old version or do both versions remain? Thinking about session recall... Both versions remain. |
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Post by levon on Jan 28, 2020 11:42:41 GMT -6
I love Soothe on vocals and electric guitars. If you want to find out what it can do, check out Eric Valentine's video on his production with Slash. And while you're at it, check what Spiff does to his bass track. Spiff is now definitely on my list.
Off topic: In this video, he's also comparing the Lisson Grove plugin to his Unfairchild hardware. Tempting - both of them Started watching.. Waited for the big hit.. What a wimpy, wimpy snare drum sound for a track that wants to sound so big. Yes, the 10 second attention span... Wait until he mixes the wimpy snare with the overheads. |
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Post by Guitar on Jan 28, 2020 11:43:49 GMT -6
Very cool. The only thing I'm not excited about is the 200 freaking dollar price tag. That is outrageous to me these days.
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Post by svart on Jan 28, 2020 12:31:05 GMT -6
Started watching.. Waited for the big hit.. What a wimpy, wimpy snare drum sound for a track that wants to sound so big. Yes, the 10 second attention span... Wait until he mixes the wimpy snare with the overheads. I'm saying the finished mix has a very wimpy snare sound. It's just a little whack. Such a big beat should have a huge cannon sounding snare. |
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Post by levon on Jan 28, 2020 13:25:55 GMT -6
Ok, got ya. Well, it doesn't sound wimpy to me, it sounds pretty punchy in the mix to my ears. But anyway, my post was supposed to highlight Eric's uses of Soothe and Spiff on various instruments.
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Post by levon on Feb 1, 2020 3:09:45 GMT -6
Just in case anybody is still interested in this topic, Sound On Sound has a helpful Soothe 2 review in its February issue...
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Post by javamad on Feb 2, 2020 2:20:34 GMT -6
It is certainly great for hardhness but also for weird resonances. Now that it is full bandwidth I expect that to be even more useful.
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Post by jampa on Feb 3, 2020 17:50:43 GMT -6
I dig it
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 12, 2021 23:38:33 GMT -6
Anyone using this?
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 13, 2021 0:52:08 GMT -6
I'm using it. I never had v1. I like what it does on tracks that are resonant in annoying ways. You can ruin a sound with it but a little is nice for sure.
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Post by wiz on Jan 13, 2021 1:07:16 GMT -6
I am happy to sell my copy, if allowed....
cheers
Wiz
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Post by dougwendal on Jan 13, 2021 2:39:13 GMT -6
I have version 1 and version 2 is an improvement. It can be really great at taming issues that would take a while to resolve with other tools.
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Post by schmalzy on Jan 13, 2021 3:14:16 GMT -6
Still on Soothe 1 but it gets used every mix. It's almost a better De-esser in some ways...so I use it on my vocal bus. I like to pair it with a multiband compressor. It seems more transparent when each is doing a little vs. one doing a lot. I'll use it on overheads where the drummer had sharp/loud cymbal(s). I had a chirpy sound in a distorted rhythm guitar part I was sent to mix. It seems like they were going for a little of a scrapey guitar pick sound but the scrape ended up being distracting. It wasn't always in the same frequency area so Soothe did a great job with that. I've also used it to deal with a player who didn't pick through the string quickly enough on a lead part so there was a super chirpy note that kept sounding as the pick touched the string (essentially fretting a note on the imaginary 30-somethin'th fret) before they finished the picking motion. Soothe got that thing to settle down which really saved that part. I've used it on a snare drum top to take out some of the grossness from off-axis cymbals while leaving the rest of the top end less-messed-up than it would have been had I just notch EQd. I've used it LIGHTLY on a whole ass mix someone sent me to master, too. Again, resonant frequencies that didn't stay in one spot but needed to be tamed a little. So I tamed...a little. It's easy to overuse it so - when I hear it working and relaxing the pinch (or whatever physical way I hear the resonance), I'll check the delta in the plugin to make sure I'm not doing too much, possibly back it off a small touch more, then forget about it. |
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