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Post by sirthought on Jan 13, 2020 5:39:37 GMT -6
LINK Pricey, but I love that sound on albums in the 80s. I'm sure a good number of people will flock to this.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 13, 2020 8:12:39 GMT -6
$1295 is about half of what I thought they’d ask for.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 13, 2020 8:25:32 GMT -6
Very cool - wish they enabled some sort of computer control though. That would make it a buy for me.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 13, 2020 8:41:01 GMT -6
Very cool - wish they enabled some sort of computer control though. That would make it a buy for me. Agreed. Still looks great though. Will look forward to hearing sound examples. |
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Post by dreamsambas on Jan 13, 2020 9:58:15 GMT -6
Woah- that’s actually pretty cool.
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Post by sirthought on Jan 13, 2020 9:58:47 GMT -6
IDK... I bet the reverbs are the exact same as the UAD version, which cost less, is recallable, and doesn't take 3U on your rack.
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Post by thirdeye on Jan 13, 2020 16:44:44 GMT -6
Looks very cool!!
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Post by winetree on Jan 14, 2020 1:41:14 GMT -6
This one is on my want list.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 13, 2020 16:03:54 GMT -6
Pretty big drop off on nonlinear with the plug...but having used it a bit, I think you can get there with different settings. Otherwise, I don’t see much reason for the HW
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 13, 2020 16:25:33 GMT -6
Pretty big drop off on nonlinear with the plug...but having used it a bit, I think you can get there with different settings. Otherwise, I don’t see much reason for the HW hmm interesting. I think the plugin wasn't the same for any of them other than the first example. New hardware was really close for all of them. Pretty cool shoot out. |
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Post by swafford on Feb 13, 2020 16:26:11 GMT -6
Pretty big drop off on nonlinear with the plug...but having used it a bit, I think you can get there with different settings. Otherwise, I don’t see much reason for the HW I dunno, I can't stop chuckling at that hipster combover to give it a serious listen, but I think I preferred the original in almost every case. Maybe the time of day, but the OG has a dirty darkness to it. |
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Post by nobtwiddler on Feb 13, 2020 16:59:51 GMT -6
"But the OG has a dirty darkness to it."
And there in lies the Rub~!
I own all of the originals...Limited in what they do...
But nothing sounds like them!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 13, 2020 18:07:14 GMT -6
That was an excellent demo. The 500 series was lighter weight, the UAD was dull on top, the original was magic. Both the UAD and 500 series sound very good, just not special, to me anyway.
I don't get the combover either.
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Post by javamad on Feb 14, 2020 2:37:30 GMT -6
It seemed to me that the send on the plugin was not the same level as the hw I/O ....
The non linear stuff definitely suffered and that makes sense as they would only model some patterns and switch between them whereas the hw has all its code running on the actual signal you input
Whats clear is that they did not give UA the actual code.. now we know why :-)
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 14, 2020 7:50:22 GMT -6
Seemed the plugin was a little flat and two dimensional compared to the HW. Or I’m just biased against plugins. 🤔 Probably wouldn’t matter much in most mixes. Nonetheless I’ll likely pick up the 500 unit sooner or later. Price is better than I would have expected.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 14, 2020 9:45:07 GMT -6
I just have a problem buying digital HW when there’s a digital version available. I just listened in my car, but I thought only the nonlinear sounded worse with the plug...and I bet some fiddling could get it a lot closer. Maybe when I listen again I’ll hear a bigger difference
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Post by matt on Feb 14, 2020 10:39:21 GMT -6
I'm trying to resist the bling factor of the 500- but I have plenty of empty space for it. What do do? It's been a while since I've bought any hardware for the studio, and this little jewel would be a nice alternative to yet another compressor. But then . . .
As others say, the 500 sounds more hi-fi than the original and I'm not sure that it's a bad thing. To my ears, both hardware versions beat the plugin. Yes, the original has more mojo (whatever that means) but I'll always have a bit of trouble with vintage pricing regardless of the piece.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 14, 2020 10:51:37 GMT -6
Dizengoff is coming out with a 500 series plate reverb, that would be interesting to compare to the AMS.
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Post by sirthought on Feb 14, 2020 11:38:53 GMT -6
The UAD is the exact same code, even the extra settings that came later. The difference is the hardware circuitry that doesn't happen with the plugin.
You don't hear the same high end? Grab an EQ.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 14, 2020 12:03:51 GMT -6
Very cool - wish they enabled some sort of computer control though. That would make it a buy for me. you know there is a USB-C port on the front. i wonder if this will come later in a firmware update maybe |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 14, 2020 12:16:46 GMT -6
That Non-Lin was so different I think they must have messed up the settings or something.
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Post by matt on Feb 14, 2020 13:08:47 GMT -6
Very cool - wish they enabled some sort of computer control though. That would make it a buy for me. you know there is a USB-C port on the front. i wonder if this will come later in a firmware update maybe It's in the manual- for future firmware updates. But it would be killer to have a plugin for control. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 14, 2020 13:19:56 GMT -6
you know there is a USB-C port on the front. i wonder if this will come later in a firmware update maybe It's in the manual- for future firmware updates. But it would be killer to have a plugin for control. one can dream. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 14:12:50 GMT -6
i owned the original many many years ago and eventually sold it to david kulka as the one i owned was very unreliable and i
don't think i really used it often enough, made everything sound early phil collins.
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Post by dreamsambas on Feb 14, 2020 15:20:17 GMT -6
"But the OG has a dirty darkness to it." And there in lies the Rub~! I own all of the originals...Limited in what they do... But nothing sounds like them! What do people like to use the RMX16 for? (Other than making drums sound like 1980s Phil Collins) |
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