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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2020 15:49:13 GMT -6
Translated from the latin phrases bottom of logo!
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Post by Quint on Jan 14, 2020 15:59:05 GMT -6
Ok. I see now.
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Post by Quint on Jan 14, 2020 16:00:25 GMT -6
Recording system. That sounds like what a lot of us have been guessing. Very interesting.
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Post by wiz on Jan 14, 2020 16:26:33 GMT -6
Okay refining my guess...
8 channels, faders, knobs, DSP, Mic preamps, scalable and works with existing UAD interfaces as well as standalone.... essentially a control surface/audio interface so you have the experience of having a physical console using UAD plug ins....
If I am right @drew do I win one....? 8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Quint on Jan 14, 2020 16:40:43 GMT -6
Okay refining my guess... 8 channels, faders, knobs, DSP, Mic preamps, scalable and works with existing UAD interfaces as well as standalone.... essentially a control surface/audio interface so you have the experience of having a physical console using UAD plug ins.... If I am right @drew do I win one....? 8) cheers Wiz If this ends up being what it is, or something similar, I sure hope it has better cue capabilities than what we've had with Console thus far. I've always felt like that was a weak spot with the Apollos.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 14, 2020 16:48:38 GMT -6
Thanks monkeyx. I have 3 or 4 other tape sims but use them so rarely, I don't even remember which ones I have, ha! I'll take a look. I've found UAD's Oxide is good on one or two tracks also.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2020 16:58:07 GMT -6
I bet it’s a Console redo - you can switch from SSL, Neve, etc...setup like a real console - then a spot for tape plugs too.
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Post by Tbone81 on Jan 14, 2020 17:10:55 GMT -6
Its pretty obvious that Luna is a robotic coffee machine that pours you a cup of joe when it senses your mix falling apart. Think of a Keurig duct taped to a Roomba, rolling around bumping into everything.
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Post by mjheck on Jan 14, 2020 17:26:59 GMT -6
You know what I would like to see happen?
I adore Langston's Zulu - I have two two-channel versions. That is the best tape emulation I have ever owned, hardware or software. It allowed me to sell my beloved 2192 (shout out to UA, of course). However, he has clearly had challenges meeting demand, not to mention the difficulty of running a boutique audio company while still maintaining a studio.
If UA is willing to partner with other manufacturers for licensing and such, it seems like an opportunity to take UA's stable, controlled production and world class marketing and distribution and pair it with an innovative, fantastic sounding, extremely elegant solution to tape saturation and compression. Langston could exit the headaches and UA could champion a forward thinking solution to a backwards looking desire.
And we could all get a multi-channel analog device with amazing tone control in one box (presumably with emulation capability per channel as well) that could actually ship when ordered!
Just dreaming. My entire studio at this point is basically just two mobile rigs with a UAD Twin and Zulu each, so clearly I'm a fan. Why have two boxes when I can have one : )?
MJH
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Post by Guitar on Jan 14, 2020 17:57:15 GMT -6
Was that NASA logo thing influenced by Louder Than Liftoff / brad's spacey stuff you think? I don't know. I never noticed the space connection until now, I guess it should have been obvious with Apollo and Satellite naming.
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Post by sirthought on Jan 14, 2020 18:06:09 GMT -6
tchyeah
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 14, 2020 18:22:33 GMT -6
Here is a good one from Serenity at ua forum:
“ Serenity said: 19 Minutes Ago Ok, I've had it with this. I will stick with my initial speculation that LUNA is a console strip controller much like Softube Console 1 but more classy, slightly bigger and with a touch screen on top and proper transport controls. It will most likely have built in DSP for 16-24 mono channels of tape and console strip emulation and 2-4 send effects, but be expandable with Satellite and Apollo DSP. It will be running Linux on an ARM processor with a JUCE based GUI. It will have full and easy integration with Console and either use a plugin that completely integrates with your DAW, or use virtual channels available as outputs on your DAW. Possibly we will see basic recording and editing functionality based on Tracktion Core.
It will be priced at around $1699-1899.
Bonus speculation: In the future or possibly sooner they will release sampled based virtual instruments and put them into a virtual recording studio much like the OWS plugin.
See you thursday!@
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Post by Guitar on Jan 14, 2020 18:25:19 GMT -6
That's a weirdly specific random price point that person picked out. Don't know why that's the thing that stands out to me there, but it is.
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Post by swurveman on Jan 14, 2020 19:32:42 GMT -6
This may be a stupid question, but how is UAD able to have live music go through their plugins first before going through their converters? They aren’t. No DSP until things are D. So, nobody is actually committing to a sound if they track using plugin inserts, right? Or, does your waveform have the plugin sound embedded into it, like if you tracked with hardware?
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Post by wiz on Jan 14, 2020 19:43:07 GMT -6
The price of this thing, if it is a 8 channel surface will be really expensive if it includes audio interface and DSP.
Would probably make more sense to have it connect to existing UAD interfaces.....
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by wiz on Jan 14, 2020 19:44:02 GMT -6
What have we seen so far?
Tape Machine Something like tracks in a DAW two sets of console faders, one knobs, one faders
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Post by Quint on Jan 14, 2020 19:47:25 GMT -6
The price of this thing, if it is a 8 channel surface will be really expensive if it includes audio interface and DSP. Would probably make more sense to have it connect to existing UAD interfaces..... Cheers Wiz I think it likely won't include AD/DA. Just DSP for tracking/mixing without the usual latency issues associated with working with a DAW, and then maybe some degree of control elements, whether that just be software based, in the form of a revamped Console, or hardware based, in the form of an actual control surface (that controls a revamped Console).
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 14, 2020 20:19:57 GMT -6
The price of this thing, if it is a 8 channel surface will be really expensive if it includes audio interface and DSP. Would probably make more sense to have it connect to existing UAD interfaces..... Cheers Wiz I think it likely won't include AD/DA. Just DSP for tracking/mixing without the usual latency issues associated with working with a DAW, and then maybe some degree of control elements, whether that just be software based, in the form of a revamped Console, or hardware based, in the form of an actual control surface (that controls a revamped Console). Yeah, but if you can track through their plugs with this without it having AD/DA, then that would mean you could do the same with a satellite, right? Which you can’t. Right now.
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Post by Quint on Jan 14, 2020 20:30:53 GMT -6
I think it likely won't include AD/DA. Just DSP for tracking/mixing without the usual latency issues associated with working with a DAW, and then maybe some degree of control elements, whether that just be software based, in the form of a revamped Console, or hardware based, in the form of an actual control surface (that controls a revamped Console). Yeah, but if you can track through their plugs with this without it having AD/DA, then that would mean you could do the same with a satellite, right? Which you can’t. Right now. Agreed, which is why I think there might be something different under the hood for Luna versus what is in the Satellites. Basically, having a mix engine within a dedicated piece of hardware like Luna would allow UA to do away with a lot of the usual buffer stuff you have to deal with when running through a typical DAW/computer. So let the Apollos do the ad/da and then shoot it straight into the Luna hardware for additional mix-level DSP. All of this is to say that I think UA may be going after the HDX crowd with a competitive product. But maybe not. We'll see. I know I would be interested in a product which directly competes with HDX and is actually better.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 14, 2020 21:36:28 GMT -6
All I have to say(as i have zero interest in anything UA makes) is great job UA marketing department. lol
They didn't just get you guys to take the bait, you swallowed the hook, sinker, line, fishing pole and dang near the fisherman.
So congrats on that!
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 14, 2020 21:56:41 GMT -6
All I have to say(as i have zero interest in anything UA makes) is great job UA marketing department. lol They didn't just get you guys to take the bait, you swallowed the hook, sinker, line, fishing pole and dang near the fisherman. So congrats on that! Its just the same as the Slate strategy ... in the near future we will release xxx please stay tuned. With some Slate plugs the correct translation is... Sorry it will never see the light of the world. Must admit I love Slates bundle. Ah and yes - nothing brings me back to the overpriced UAD platform....
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2020 21:57:28 GMT -6
All I have to say(as i have zero interest in anything UA makes) is great job UA marketing department. lol They didn't just get you guys to take the bait, you swallowed the hook, sinker, line, fishing pole and dang near the fisherman. So congrats on that! Guess we can’t all be as knowledgeable and cool as you. Seriously. This is a pro audio forum. This is people's passion.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 15, 2020 1:00:49 GMT -6
Perhaps that comment is meant in jest but seems a little gratuitous. UA knows recording. If Luna combines the features of 3-5 separate things and at a good price, it’s not trite marketing but would be a workflow efficiency, which would be good. UA has very good design staff and a number of significant ex Avid staff, who likely would know how to make a UA HDX competitor. Could be interesting. wiz the current neve console clip is interesting as the 8 faders are the groups and showing eq etc above, given the nasa like mission control logo, seems Luna could be a pretty sophisticated controller.
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Post by ragan on Jan 15, 2020 1:13:08 GMT -6
I mean, I'm way out of the UAD ecosystem but I'm all ears. Glad for someone to be doing something interesting and outside the box, literally and figuratively...(if that's what this turns out to be).
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Post by wiz on Jan 15, 2020 1:23:19 GMT -6
I mean, I'm way out of the UAD ecosystem but I'm all ears. Glad for someone to be doing something interesting and outside the box, literally and figuratively...(if that's what this turns out to be). Yes I am same. I sold my uad1s Years ago. I have to admit though I am intrigued by the thought of a control system that integrates beautifully with great EQ and compression plug-ins
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