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Post by indiehouse on Dec 31, 2019 19:13:34 GMT -6
Anyone using one of these boxes? I could hook this to my amps (Swart AST/ ‘78 Fender Champ), buy a killer cab IR pack and get silent recording of my amps? Maybe couple it with the Iridium and call it good? I could run the Tone King into the Iridium for cab IR’s and be able to utilize my own amps, plus the Iridium amps. Or just buy an Axe.
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Post by dmo on Dec 31, 2019 19:57:11 GMT -6
No first hand experience with any of john's latest amp gear as I'm really happy in fractal land, however I own both a custom audio SE3+ preamp and CAE Od-100 ( as well as 2 suhr guitars) and have always found his products well built and, although expensive, good value. Wouldn't hesitate to try if it seems to fit your needs
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 31, 2019 21:40:02 GMT -6
Man, that Toneking / Itidium combo is intriguing. Still puts money in my pocket (I’m actually building a ‘61 Strat, so it’s money in a new guitar).
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Post by wiz on Dec 31, 2019 21:58:07 GMT -6
I was just thinking along the same lines..... some sort of load box and cabinet simulation as I have an ac30, tone king imperial, Marshall jtm1 and a hi watt.
I plan on looking into it
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jan 1, 2020 5:50:45 GMT -6
I was just thinking along the same lines..... some sort of load box and cabinet simulation as I have an ac30, tone king imperial, Marshall jtm1 and a hi watt. I plan on looking into it Cheers Wiz I'm building a couple of Reactive load boxes with built in IR in the next month or 2.
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Post by wiz on Jan 1, 2020 15:29:59 GMT -6
I was just thinking along the same lines..... some sort of load box and cabinet simulation as I have an ac30, tone king imperial, Marshall jtm1 and a hi watt. I plan on looking into it Cheers Wiz I'm building a couple of Reactive load boxes with built in IR in the next month or 2. cool, keep us posted!! Cheers Wiz
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Post by ragan on Jun 22, 2020 23:35:25 GMT -6
I just got a Suhr Reactive Load today. Only briefly messed with it but initial impressions are good. This could be a lot of fun.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 23, 2020 5:53:07 GMT -6
I just got a Suhr Reactive Load today. Only briefly messed with it but initial impressions are good. This could be a lot of fun. Did you get the IR version or the non-IR?
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 23, 2020 6:17:52 GMT -6
These things are supposed to be really great. Congrats, ragan. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts...
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Post by timcampbell on Jun 23, 2020 8:08:53 GMT -6
There is also the THD hotplate. Not only are they good for this application but also live for attenuating loud amps. They sound great and are built like a tank.
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Post by timcampbell on Jun 23, 2020 8:19:56 GMT -6
Pleasedelete this double post
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Post by ragan on Jun 23, 2020 8:28:55 GMT -6
I just got a Suhr Reactive Load today. Only briefly messed with it but initial impressions are good. This could be a lot of fun. Did you get the IR version or the non-IR? I got the non-IR because (like you) I can use the Iridium for IRs. Lemme ask you, are you able to access all 9 IRs on the Iridium when in Amp Bypase mode? Only cab ‘a’ of the Round setting works for me. Cabs b and c on Round sound filtered and pinched and weird. And when I switch to Chime there a big level drop. Switching to Punch there’s a further level drop. I emailed Strymon yesterday but I’m wondering how Amp Bypass is working for you as far as accessing all the IRs loaded on the Iridium?
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 23, 2020 12:38:01 GMT -6
Did you get the IR version or the non-IR? I got the non-IR because (like you) I can use the Iridium for IRs. Lemme ask you, are you able to access all 9 IRs on the Iridium when in Amp Bypase mode? Only cab ‘a’ of the Round setting works for me. Cabs b and c on Round sound filtered and pinched and weird. And when I switch to Chime there a big level drop. Switching to Punch there’s a further level drop. I emailed Strymon yesterday but I’m wondering how Amp Bypass is working for you as far as accessing all the IRs loaded on the Iridium? I did have issues with it at first. There was something weird going on that I had to email Strymon about. I think it was solved in a software update. Let me refresh my memory and get back with you. Is your Iridium up-to-date? That would be where I would start.
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Post by ragan on Jun 23, 2020 14:31:09 GMT -6
I got the non-IR because (like you) I can use the Iridium for IRs. Lemme ask you, are you able to access all 9 IRs on the Iridium when in Amp Bypase mode? Only cab ‘a’ of the Round setting works for me. Cabs b and c on Round sound filtered and pinched and weird. And when I switch to Chime there a big level drop. Switching to Punch there’s a further level drop. I emailed Strymon yesterday but I’m wondering how Amp Bypass is working for you as far as accessing all the IRs loaded on the Iridium? I did have issues with it at first. There was something weird going on that I had to email Strymon about. I think it was solved in a software update. Let me refresh my memory and get back with you. Is your Iridium up-to-date? That would be where I would start. I updated the software and voila - IRs all working as you'd expect now. <thumbsup> Yeah I thought I had remembered you having IR issues at first too. I think I really like this Suhr RL. I'll do some testing in the next couple of days vs Iridium and TH-U. Once that hurdle is crossed I'm going to rearrange things a bit so my amps (or at least the Deluxe Reverb and AC15) are within reach. Sure is fun using them without face-melting levels.
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Post by sozocaps on Jun 23, 2020 15:28:19 GMT -6
Owned quite a few... I have the Suhr Reactive Load NON IR version. Feels real good, Alive, not dead like others I have tried. Sounds real good, not compressed, a bit on the open side "slightly" less subsonic the the original signal, but even with brutal Rock I play I always shelf below 60hz anyway. Transformer(Jensen) line out or better yet XLR ! adds some character but is a MUST... .
John
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Post by ragan on Jun 27, 2020 15:02:48 GMT -6
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Post by sozocaps on Jun 29, 2020 18:54:59 GMT -6
1 by far the most real..
then 3, a little digital 1 dimensional sounding
2 stinks
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Post by ragan on Jun 30, 2020 2:12:47 GMT -6
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Post by sozocaps on Jul 1, 2020 12:54:46 GMT -6
D best Real ? E good but lacking bottom on the IR ?
To make good IR's you HAVE to push the speaker with volume FYI.....
John
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Post by ragan on Jul 1, 2020 14:12:01 GMT -6
D best Real ? E good but lacking bottom on the IR ? To make good IR's you HAVE to push the speaker with volume FYI..... John Any of these samples that are using IRs are using OwnHammer, which are among the best I’ve used. I am going to make some of my own IRs though just because I want to and because it’s what I’m studying in school and incorporating that stuff into music land is fun.
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Post by sozocaps on Jul 1, 2020 17:41:30 GMT -6
D best Real ? E good but lacking bottom on the IR ? To make good IR's you HAVE to push the speaker with volume FYI..... John Any of these samples that are using IRs are using OwnHammer, which are among the best I’ve used. I am going to make some of my own IRs though just because I want to and because it’s what I’m studying in school and incorporating that stuff into music land is fun. What are you using for an IR player ? How high up is the DI level (how hard are you hitting it, are u gain staging it correctly ?) Some of the tracks sound compressed in dynamics... John
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Post by ragan on Jul 1, 2020 18:56:15 GMT -6
Any of these samples that are using IRs are using OwnHammer, which are among the best I’ve used. I am going to make some of my own IRs though just because I want to and because it’s what I’m studying in school and incorporating that stuff into music land is fun. What are you using for an IR player ? How high up is the DI level (how hard are you hitting it, are u gain staging it correctly ?) Some of the tracks sound compressed in dynamics... John There is mild compression on every track. I was doing these comparisons for my real use case and I usually lightly compress. Each file was RMS matched before 1-2 dB were shaved off on peaks. No EQ. Gain staging is all the usual thing. For samples that are using IRs, the convolution was either the Strymon Iridium or the convolver cab in TH-U.
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Post by ragan on Jul 2, 2020 14:30:38 GMT -6
Answers next post, in case anyone still wants to listen blind.
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Post by ragan on Jul 2, 2020 14:30:56 GMT -6
Guitars A: TH-U
Guitars B: Suhr RL
Guitars C: Iridium
These were some DI tracks I already had and I just re-amped to check these various methods out. I just used the IRs that I had already loaded onto the Iridium (and used the same ones within TH-U). So the IRs for each part were the same across the three methods.
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Guitars 1: Suhr RL
Guitars 2: Iridium
Guitars 3: TH-U
With these, I used the IRs I'd already picked/loaded for the Iridium but for the Suhr I picked out IRs specifically for it (though I had them hosted on the Iridium, in amp bypass mode). Picked specific IRs for TH-U as well, just trying to get good sounds, not match all the IRs.
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Guitars D: Suhr RL
Guitars E: mic'd amps
Here, instead of printing through IRs hosted on the Iridium, I recorded the signal straight out of the Suhr and then applied IRs within the DAW. This let me go through and put the multi-mic IRs on separate channels and treat them like I do when I multi-mic (like in Guitars E). So grab the 57 and then decide to blend it with some 121 or 421 or U87 or whatever.
This last test surprised me, pleasantly. I picked the Suhr (blind) over the actual mic'd amps. I really like both but I prefer the Suhr version. This is what I'm gonna go with going forward. I've re-positioned my amps so they're within reach at mix position and am making up the cabling to have everything tidy. Oh, and the amps are a Deluxe Reverb 68RI and an AC15 (C1).
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Post by sozocaps on Jul 2, 2020 18:38:37 GMT -6
Well I guess we picked correctly the Shur rocks here wow
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