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Post by EmRR on Dec 11, 2019 11:57:16 GMT -6
For audio. The only new mac to buy is the mac mini. Only thing worth the money and plenty of power for audio stuff. I can't make the math work on that versus an iMac, the iMac wins the price battle the way I look at it. Add all the upgrades and peripherals to a Mini and it costs more....for what I need/want. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 11, 2019 12:50:22 GMT -6
For audio. The only new mac to buy is the mac mini. Only thing worth the money and plenty of power for audio stuff. I can't make the math work on that versus an iMac, the iMac wins the price battle the way I look at it. Add all the upgrades and peripherals to a Mini and it costs more....for what I need/want. well for me anyways the mini has other pros vs an iMac(not that i have either Im still rocking an old Cheesegratter) The mini can be located somewhere else. If you use a Sonnet xMini server rack you can have it out of your room all together. Then you can have the HDX card there as well plus any HD arrays. The iMac you can't, and they can be loud as they age. We have 4 here and if you load them up with stuff the fan is freakin loud. I also like the ablity to pick your own monitor and mounting solutions. It might be cheaper, but call me old school I don't love the fully integrated monitor into a computer thing. But both would work fine. |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 11, 2019 13:28:41 GMT -6
Very rare I ever notice the fan on my imac. 2014.
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Post by drbill on Dec 11, 2019 14:28:08 GMT -6
I can't make the math work on that versus an iMac, the iMac wins the price battle the way I look at it. Add all the upgrades and peripherals to a Mini and it costs more....for what I need/want. well for me anyways the mini has other pros vs an iMac(not that i have either Im still rocking an old Cheesegratter) The mini can be located somewhere else. If you use a Sonnet xMini server rack you can have it out of your room all together. Then you can have the HDX card there as well plus any HD arrays. The iMac you can't, and they can be loud as they age. We have 4 here and if you load them up with stuff the fan is freakin loud. I also like the ablity to pick your own monitor and mounting solutions. It might be cheaper, but call me old school I don't love the fully integrated monitor into a computer thing. But both would work fine. Agreed 100%. After a decade of having multiple CPU's in my CRM, I'll never do that again. Interfaces, Computers and Hard Drives live in the machine room now, and I'm sooooooo loving it.  |
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Dec 11, 2019 18:17:30 GMT -6
I can only go up to around $40k for my computers. Holy crap! What are you guys adding on that creates these numbers!! Before reading this thread I thought a completely pimped out Mac would cap around 10k max! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 11, 2019 20:59:00 GMT -6
I can only go up to around $40k for my computers. Holy crap! What are you guys adding on that creates these numbers!! Before reading this thread I thought a completely pimped out Mac would cap around 10k max! I was completely joking. |
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Post by professorplum on Dec 11, 2019 21:48:31 GMT -6
The wheels for the new Mac Pro cost 400 f*cking dollars....
Need I say more? A $50,000 computer is capitalism in its most truly disgusting, offensive form (especially when the build components are nowhere near that cost)
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 12, 2019 5:32:17 GMT -6
The wheels for the new Mac Pro cost 400 f*cking dollars.... Need I say more? A $50,000 computer is capitalism in its most truly disgusting, offensive form (especially when the build components are nowhere near that cost) It’s not like you can’t get a reasonable version of it. This whole thing is blown out of proportion. How many people actually need a maxed out version of the new Mac Pro? Nobody here, that’s for sure. |
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Post by svart on Dec 12, 2019 10:57:23 GMT -6
The wheels for the new Mac Pro cost 400 f*cking dollars.... Need I say more? A $50,000 computer is capitalism in its most truly disgusting, offensive form (especially when the build components are nowhere near that cost) It would have been 5k, but you gotta pay those union wages. |
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Post by swurveman on Dec 12, 2019 11:06:12 GMT -6
I can't make the math work on that versus an iMac, the iMac wins the price battle the way I look at it. Add all the upgrades and peripherals to a Mini and it costs more....for what I need/want. well for me anyways the mini has other pros vs an iMac(not that i have either Im still rocking an old Cheesegratter) The mini can be located somewhere else. If you use a Sonnet xMini server rack you can have it out of your room all together. Then you can have the HDX card there as well plus any HD arrays. The iMac you can't, and they can be loud as they age. We have 4 here and if you load them up with stuff the fan is freakin loud. I also like the ablity to pick your own monitor and mounting solutions. It might be cheaper, but call me old school I don't love the fully integrated monitor into a computer thing. But both would work fine. I'm thinking about a Mac Mini. If you don't mind saying, what kind of a screen do you use and how long is the cable from where your Mac/Sonnet is to the screen on your desk? What kind of cable is it? |
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Post by christopher on Dec 12, 2019 11:23:53 GMT -6
the things that’s funny to me is.. you have your gorgeous luxury item with $400 wheels and $1000 stand. And then some video cables and power cables across the floor, external drives and dongles hanging off it. So you can do a custom desk setup to hide the cables and make it look tidy. But if you go custom, do you need the super fancy wheels and fancy monitor stand? So it’s totally a vanity thing, that’s all, no way not to admit it. I’m gonna feel embarrassed when I see it on people’s desks with all the wires hanging everywhere. I mean if you get the monitor, you pretty much have to get the stand. It just hurts.
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Post by drbill on Dec 12, 2019 12:13:23 GMT -6
well for me anyways the mini has other pros vs an iMac(not that i have either Im still rocking an old Cheesegratter) The mini can be located somewhere else. If you use a Sonnet xMini server rack you can have it out of your room all together. Then you can have the HDX card there as well plus any HD arrays. The iMac you can't, and they can be loud as they age. We have 4 here and if you load them up with stuff the fan is freakin loud. I also like the ablity to pick your own monitor and mounting solutions. It might be cheaper, but call me old school I don't love the fully integrated monitor into a computer thing. But both would work fine. I'm thinking about a Mac Mini. If you don't mind saying, what kind of a screen do you use and how long is the cable from where your Mac/Sonnet is to the screen on your desk? What kind of cable is it? I'm using an Apple Display Port adapters to DVI on the back of my cheesegrater. Then a pair of DVI cables going 50 feet to my 27" displays. Works great. I believe I have a DVI amplifier of some sort in the wall behind my desk. I can't remember. It just always works. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 12, 2019 12:20:55 GMT -6
well for me anyways the mini has other pros vs an iMac(not that i have either Im still rocking an old Cheesegratter) The mini can be located somewhere else. If you use a Sonnet xMini server rack you can have it out of your room all together. Then you can have the HDX card there as well plus any HD arrays. The iMac you can't, and they can be loud as they age. We have 4 here and if you load them up with stuff the fan is freakin loud. I also like the ablity to pick your own monitor and mounting solutions. It might be cheaper, but call me old school I don't love the fully integrated monitor into a computer thing. But both would work fine. I'm thinking about a Mac Mini. If you don't mind saying, what kind of a screen do you use and how long is the cable from where your Mac/Sonnet is to the screen on your desk? What kind of cable is it? I don't have a Mac mini but We do have a Mac Pro in a Sonnet Chassis at the studio. We use a TB2 adapter(Trashcan Pro's only have TB2, one of the adapters is built into the Sonnet chassis) to HDMI and then use 2 50' HDMI cables to go under the floor and to the displays. One is a 4k 27'' monitor and the other is a 70" or something 4k TV. I have a graphics card problem(was a recall on the trashcans for this but I missed it) so the TV blips in and out at times. Monitor is solid. Just have to use nice HDMI cables with good shielding and it's all good. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 12, 2019 21:16:36 GMT -6
The wheels for the new Mac Pro cost 400 f*cking dollars.... Need I say more? A $50,000 computer is capitalism in its most truly disgusting, offensive form (especially when the build components are nowhere near that cost) If someone is wiling to pay it, more power to them. The world doesn't owe you a Mac Pro. |
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Post by Guitar on Dec 12, 2019 22:30:33 GMT -6
I'm sure Hans Zimmer will buy four mac pros. A symphony of mac. Maxed.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Dec 13, 2019 2:47:47 GMT -6
The wheels for the new Mac Pro cost 400 f*cking dollars.... Need I say more? A $50,000 computer is capitalism in its most truly disgusting, offensive form (especially when the build components are nowhere near that cost) It’s not like you can’t get a reasonable version of it. This whole thing is blown out of proportion. How many people actually need a maxed out version of the new Mac Pro? Nobody here, that’s for sure. Well that is the real problem. You Can't get a reasonable version of it. The base model is an absolute joke spec wise.. I can't see how anyone would actual buy the base model or the next one up. They are not going to be fast machines. The mac mini is not too bad for the price. But its not going to hack it for video editing without an external graphics card. At that point the iMac is a much better deal. I don't like the current trend Apple is setting. Its like going back to the early 90s when a computer cost you an arm and a leg. Sure they are beautiful machines but apple aint doing half bad with its $245 billion cash on hand. This wasn't actually directed at you Jeremy. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Dec 13, 2019 2:55:35 GMT -6
I'm sure Hans Zimmer will buy four mac pros. A symphony of mac. Maxed. I believe he uses a 14 PC computer farm. His main rig is a PC from what is on youtube. |
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Post by soundintheround on Dec 17, 2019 22:41:08 GMT -6
According to Apple.....everyone that makes music, does it on a Laptop and uses 100% plugins. We're all just trying to make the latest throw-away trap beat we can sell to some big producer.  Guys, these machines are made for video! They could care less about us. (meanwhile, I'm still perfectly fine with my Asus monitor from 2005. They dont understand this!) |
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Post by ericn on Dec 20, 2019 10:31:50 GMT -6
So who exactly is going to buy these? Video guys! US election time means Video guys are bathing in cash so they will do well. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 20, 2019 10:32:44 GMT -6
Well well well welcome back !
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Post by ericn on Dec 20, 2019 11:01:08 GMT -6
For audio. The only new mac to buy is the mac mini. Only thing worth the money and plenty of power for audio stuff. I can't make the math work on that versus an iMac, the iMac wins the price battle the way I look at it. Add all the upgrades and peripherals to a Mini and it costs more....for what I need/want. For the most part you can’t beat the IMac on paper, but a Mini in one of those Sonnet rack chassis is just so friggin cool! |
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Post by ericn on Dec 20, 2019 11:04:10 GMT -6
the things that’s funny to me is.. you have your gorgeous luxury item with $400 wheels and $1000 stand. And then some video cables and power cables across the floor, external drives and dongles hanging off it. So you can do a custom desk setup to hide the cables and make it look tidy. But if you go custom, do you need the super fancy wheels and fancy monitor stand? So it’s totally a vanity thing, that’s all, no way not to admit it. I’m gonna feel embarrassed when I see it on people’s desks with all the wires hanging everywhere. I mean if you get the monitor, you pretty much have to get the stand. It just hurts. If you spend 50k on a MP you want everybody to see it! Besides what ever Chinese OEM makes those wheels will have them for $100 in a month! |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 21, 2019 20:21:17 GMT -6
Video rendering is the main market for that computer. A LOT of Apple's old customers had bailed for PCs because the Macs took too long working with the latest formats. It's a Mac truck and not a sports car.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Dec 22, 2019 16:19:53 GMT -6
People forget that when Apple had the Power Mac it was the fastest personal computer in the world. Now apple is charging exorbitant prices for the same performance that everyone else has. MacOS is the only differentiation now.
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