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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 15:58:18 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 20, 2019 16:25:22 GMT -6
My head hurts: too much info:) so the suite is a combo of multiple plug ins, and you can use any by itself or in combo as channel strips?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 20, 2019 16:25:29 GMT -6
How taxing are they? Are you on PT still? How's the freeze working in PT these days? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 16:28:38 GMT -6
My head hurts: too much info:) so the suite is a combo of multiple plug ins, and you can use any by itself or in combo as channel strips? I need to delve into it more...I pulled up the pre module that basically is supposed to run it through all the metal parts in different consoles. There are some that are so subtle you can't tell and others that really add. I usually use the Gold combo thingy on Drum bus for EQ - just add a little Hi Shelf and a little goes a long way with these. Oh, and It runs through the pre emu too. I pulled up the 2254 module and the HPF SC didn't seem to work, so it makes it kind of useless...still; haven't warmed up to AA comps. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 16:29:20 GMT -6
How taxing are they? Are you on PT still? How's the freeze working in PT these days? It seems to be less taxing than the previous two. I've never had any problems freezing... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 16:34:46 GMT -6
Pulled up an empty session and put the Channel strip on the drum bus...added around 17% on my 2012 MM
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 21, 2019 5:17:27 GMT -6
Plugin Alliance just dropped an 80 Series Console too.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 21, 2019 6:25:38 GMT -6
Pulled up an empty session and put the Channel strip on the drum bus...added around 17% on my 2012 MM I instance increases your mac cpu by 17%, seems excessive? |
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Post by NoTomorrow on Nov 21, 2019 13:40:20 GMT -6
Huge Acustica fan and user here.... as you may know.
You need to drive the input on all the newer Core13 Acustica stuff to get the same saturation levels as their previous Core releases. Drive that input knob to plus 18 and you'll hear it in all it's glory.
Yes, you need a powerful ass machine.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 21, 2019 16:24:57 GMT -6
Huge Acustica fan and user here.... as you may know. You need to drive the input on all the newer Core13 Acustica stuff to get the same saturation levels as their previous Core releases. Drive that input knob to plus 18 and you'll hear it in all it's glory. Yes, you need a powerful ass machine. Huh? I get nastiness when I drive it. |
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Post by NoTomorrow on Nov 21, 2019 17:30:21 GMT -6
I don't hear any nastiness, just sweetness, fatness... more harmonics. Basically Acustica starting at the beginning of 2019, without telling anybody, started recalibrating the internal operating levels of all of their new releases down to -18dbfs. i and many others thought all of the new releases had lost some of the mojo of the previous releases but didn't know why. So there were many comments along the lines of 'the previous version of (Purple, Pink, Gold, Magenta etc.) sounds better.' Eventually they revealed that because they used to internally calibrate all of the plugins to 0dbfs there was very little headroom and they were assaulted with an endless stream of support tickets because people of course were pushing the input too far. So they made the decision to drop the internal operating level -18 so that when people pushed the input they would be doing so in a way that still provided some headroom. You may just prefer the cleaner tone you will get out of the plugin at 0 on the plugin input, but to restore the warmer, fatter sound of the previous plugins you just drive the input up. Gold 3 does seem to be a little more sensitive than some of the other recent releases and sounds good to me in the +8 range. The good news is that there is a very wide range of harmonic sweetening you can get out of it now that we understand what they changed. If you're interested you can find more info about the input level change and also the metering calibration in this thread - say the last 20 pages or so: www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/1022015-acustica-audio-acqua-plugins-general-discussion-667.html |
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Post by NoTomorrow on Nov 21, 2019 18:04:48 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 23, 2019 8:45:50 GMT -6
No - you were right! It was just that one instance I pushed it too far. This ddefinitely changes the game a little. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2020 12:50:20 GMT -6
Man - I really dug in with the latest version yesterday. Used on a drumbus. Just using the strip. Used the 1073 Console emu (last one) and pushed it a little. added the 33102 top and bottom EQs...and it is just fantastic. Using the comp in the channel strip was still a little touchy to me...but I bet it could be adjusted by using the shmod (changes the attack character). Still need to delve into the individual modules.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 1, 2020 13:11:43 GMT -6
Pulled up an empty session and put the Channel strip on the drum bus...added around 17% on my 2012 MM I instance increases your mac cpu by 17%, seems excessive? on some of the Acustica plugs (and Gold seems to be one of them on my system), the first instance takes up more CPU, and then subsequent instantiations take a little less. However, regardless, you do need a powerful, recent CPU to use very many Acustica plugs. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 1, 2020 13:21:52 GMT -6
Man - I really dug in with the latest version yesterday. Used on a drumbus. Just using the strip. Used the 1073 Console emu (last one) and pushed it a little. added the 33102 top and bottom EQs...and it is just fantastic. Using the comp in the channel strip was still a little touchy to me...but I bet it could be adjusted by using the shmod (changes the attack character). Still need to delve into the individual modules. i really dig Gold3, too. Best sounding Neve plugins I’ve heard. But they definitely smack my processor really hard. I do also really like the 2252 and 2254 compressors in Gold3, but as you say, playing with the SHMOD parameter really changes the attack. I have the Lindell version as well, and the one in Gold sounds quite a bit better to me. I also bought the Plugin Alliance / Lindell 80 console back in December, and while I still prefer Gold, sometimes Acustica plugs are just too annoying, and the Lindell 80 also sounds pretty damn good to my ear. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2020 13:51:26 GMT -6
Man - I really dug in with the latest version yesterday. Used on a drumbus. Just using the strip. Used the 1073 Console emu (last one) and pushed it a little. added the 33102 top and bottom EQs...and it is just fantastic. Using the comp in the channel strip was still a little touchy to me...but I bet it could be adjusted by using the shmod (changes the attack character). Still need to delve into the individual modules. i really dig Gold3, too. Best sounding Neve plugins I’ve heard. But they definitely smack my processor really hard. I do also really like the 2252 and 2254 compressors in Gold3, but as you say, playing with the SHMOD parameter really changes the attack. I have the Lindell version as well, and the one in Gold sounds quite a bit better to me. I also bought the Plugin Alliance / Lindell 80 console back in December, and while I still prefer Gold, sometimes Acustica plugs are just too annoying, and the Lindell 80 also sounds pretty damn good to my ear. That’s me too. Like - Ultramarine (670 plus a few other things) miiiight be a little better than the UAD one...but I don’t think it’s worth the trade off of cpu hoggery. Gold is one of the only ones that’s made it into constant rotation. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2020 13:51:41 GMT -6
Oops. 31102
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