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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 10, 2019 23:41:17 GMT -6
that sounds like it would work quite well! I am going to have to get some of those the more and more I look at them. I just with the pin out was VPR standard. Was a bit disappointed to find out its Purple Sweet 10 pinout which means my "console" im building they can't be used as easily. Won't likely stop me from getting a few. But would have ended up with likely 8-12 of them if they were VPR. Huh? I'm pretty sure they are VPR standard on the pinouts. Capable of working in CAPI, Purple or Radial racks. Are you sure? Maybe touch base with Brad on the LTL website. If your "console" is non standardized, then I don't know. All bets are off on that. But we've never had anyone with a pinout problem. No the racks Im using are TAC racks. They just happen to utilize a few more of the pins than what other modules normally do(mainly looking at 7 and 9 for use with insert send and returns). The normal pins (1,2,4,6,8,10,12-16) are all most modules actually use and take advantage of. Im sure those are all the same, as confirmed by Brad below. I am going to have to get some of those the more and more I look at them. I just with the pin out was VPR standard. Was a bit disappointed to find out its Purple Sweet 10 pinout which means my "console" im building they can't be used as easily. Won't likely stop me from getting a few. But would have ended up with likely 8-12 of them if they were VPR. The pinout for Mister Focus conforms to the API spec last I checked: Mister Focus Pinout: 1. CHASSIS GND 2. OUT+ 3. not connected 4. OUT- 5. AGND 6. STEREO LINK (not connected) 7. IN- 8. IN- 9. IN+ 10. IN+ 11. Radial Mix Bus (can be disabled by removing 4.7k resistor) 12. +16V 13. PGND 14. -16V 15. +48V (not connected) For reference here's the API VPR Pinout: 1. CHASSIS GND 2. OUT+ (+4 level) 3. OUT+ (-2 level) 4. OUT- 5. AGND 6. STEREO LINK 7. IN- (-2 level) 8. IN- (+4 level) 9. IN+ (-2 level) 10. IN+ (+4 level) 11. Gain Trim resistor 12. +16V 13. PGND 14. -16V 15. +48V Mister Focus also is compatible with the Purple racks and the Radial Racks. If you have questions about this feel free to call me at the number on my website. I'd be happy to clarify any technical concerns you may have. For fun here's 16 Mister Focus loaded into a vintage custom API console (works just fine): cheers, Brad Hi Brad! Sorry I meant no disrespect on this. I was actually referring to an email chain you and I had a bit ago and I asked about this. You then stated it was not normal API standards but Purple Sweet Ten standards. But to see this is awesome! This means your modules will in fact work with the racks Im using I believe to allow the Insert points to work. Only way to really know is to buy a pain and try it out! Very exciting. Even if its not wired to the right pins, there is always hope to mod the modules to allow this to work. Id love a mini API like that custom unit. If only...the new looptrotter console looks like it would be a fantastic platform for a LTL style console though. If i was tracking more at my own space, Id probably go that route. I will definietly reach out for more details when the time comes. Im currently working through the first phase of technical details on this build first. Once that is sorted, I will be looking to expand my "faders" and your modules are basically perfect for the job. So I will bring this all back up later with you for much finer details.
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Post by swurveman on Nov 11, 2019 8:01:16 GMT -6
I now use the Waves SSL plugin for both my drum and parallel busses. I had a hardware Smart C2 and an API 2500. The 2500 had much more of a midrange sound. So, if you wanted the snare to pop it was the better choice. The C2 was warmer. If you wanted to brighten your overheads and give the snare a bit more oomph the 2500 was an excellent choice. I have not heard the 2500 plugin, but have read that it's not comparable to the hardware. Anybody using it? Thanks. Yeah, the plugin just doesn't grab the transients in that example like the hardware. Of all the high quality gear I sold, the API 2500 got tons of interests and offers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 11:04:50 GMT -6
Anyone using the Tonelux Tx5c? Must be pretty damn close to a 2500. I've been focusing on those or the Audioscape buss comp as contenders for drums. I use my FETII's now, and they're great, but sometimes I want something faster for metal/punk stuff.
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Post by audioscape on Nov 11, 2019 11:26:39 GMT -6
The pinout for Mister Focus conforms to the API spec last I checked: Mister Focus Pinout: 1. CHASSIS GND 2. OUT+ 3. not connected 4. OUT- 5. AGND 6. STEREO LINK (not connected) 7. IN- 8. IN- 9. IN+ 10. IN+ 11. Radial Mix Bus (can be disabled by removing 4.7k resistor) 12. +16V 13. PGND 14. -16V 15. +48V (not connected) For reference here's the API VPR Pinout: 1. CHASSIS GND 2. OUT+ (+4 level) 3. OUT+ (-2 level) 4. OUT- 5. AGND 6. STEREO LINK 7. IN- (-2 level) 8. IN- (+4 level) 9. IN+ (-2 level) 10. IN+ (+4 level) 11. Gain Trim resistor 12. +16V 13. PGND 14. -16V 15. +48V Mister Focus also is compatible with the Purple racks and the Radial Racks. If you have questions about this feel free to call me at the number on my website. I'd be happy to clarify any technical concerns you may have. For fun here's 16 Mister Focus loaded into a vintage custom API console (works just fine): cheers, Brad Ha I recognize that console Ditto! Joe is such an awesome dude !!! Looks amazing, Brad! Keen to try some Mister Focus modules tbh! Joe raves about them (duhhhhh, lol).
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Post by seawell on Nov 11, 2019 12:43:11 GMT -6
I use a pair of AML 54f50 as a parallel drum buss 👍🏻
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Post by matt@IAA on Nov 11, 2019 12:51:59 GMT -6
Ha I recognize that console Ditto! Joe is such an awesome dude !!! Looks amazing, Brad! Keen to try some Mister Focus modules tbh! Joe raves about them (duhhhhh, lol). True story, I almost wound up with that desk for a swap straight up for a 3124. I hesitated then couldn't get off work to drive up to Austin to pick it up, and he ended up selling it. Ah, regrets...
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Post by BradM on Nov 11, 2019 12:58:44 GMT -6
Hi Brad! Sorry I meant no disrespect on this. I was actually referring to an email chain you and I had a bit ago and I asked about this. You then stated it was not normal API standards but Purple Sweet Ten standards. But to see this is awesome! This means your modules will in fact work with the racks Im using I believe to allow the Insert points to work. Only way to really know is to buy a pain and try it out! Very exciting. Even if its not wired to the right pins, there is always hope to mod the modules to allow this to work. Id love a mini API like that custom unit. If only...the new looptrotter console looks like it would be a fantastic platform for a LTL style console though. If i was tracking more at my own space, Id probably go that route. I will definietly reach out for more details when the time comes. Im currently working through the first phase of technical details on this build first. Once that is sorted, I will be looking to expand my "faders" and your modules are basically perfect for the job. So I will bring this all back up later with you for much finer details. Hi! Oh none taken. I just wanted to make sure the correct technical information is out there to avoid confusion. My apologies for not remembering our email discussion. I think it's probably most accurate to say that Mister Focus is both API and Purple compatible. If your system uses pins 7 and 9 for inserts (looks like the TAC racks uses a Radial pinout) then you'd want to not enable the insert mode switch on that rack and instead set it up for the parallel input mode. It seems they have designed one switch setting to be API-compatible and the second switch setting to be Radial compatible. Use API settings and you are golden. Get in touch whenever you are ready. cheers, Brad
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