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Post by saltyjames on Nov 9, 2019 7:57:47 GMT -6
I'm burnt out on 421's. Kinda want to switch to e906's but I thought I would ask y'all for thoughts on alternatives.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 9, 2019 8:36:10 GMT -6
My lowly e604 always work perfectly for me. I find nothing wrong with them and never felt the need for an upgrade. Am I crazy?  I’ve also used a SM57 for the 10” tom with fantastic results. And an e906 for floor toms, or an SM7. All of them equally fine. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 9, 2019 8:50:57 GMT -6
What kind of music, kit, heads, room, and drummer?
I usually make my decision after hearing the instrument in the room.
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Post by thirdeye on Nov 9, 2019 8:56:17 GMT -6
I'm burnt out on 421's. Kinda want to switch to e906's but I thought I would ask y'all for thoughts on alternatives.
I have (4) CAD M179s that I use primarily. (4) Beta 98s when space is limited. (3) TLM 103s when I run out of M179s. |
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 9, 2019 9:23:22 GMT -6
What kind of music, kit, heads, room, and drummer? I usually make my decision after hearing the instrument in the room. Hi Jeremy, Mostly rock and chill moody rock. The room is 12x11x 10ft high. Very well treated. I often will open the doors and put up room mics in the next room. Ambassador heads with clear resonant bottom heads, and I play with a pretty solid hit / feel. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 9, 2019 9:24:35 GMT -6
Ever try M88’s?
160’s are pretty cool too and work great on guitar amps.
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Post by svart on Nov 9, 2019 9:26:33 GMT -6
ATM25.
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Post by drbill on Nov 9, 2019 9:47:28 GMT -6
preferably - Oktava 219's. I like the modded ones best. If I want a more modern sound, I'll head to the CAD's mentioned above - the 177's or 179's. Beyond that, it's all the usual stuff that I'm not wild about using.
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 9, 2019 10:53:21 GMT -6
Yeah, Oktava 219's.
But they’re pretty $$ now.
I remember seeing them for cheaper. I did a few vocal sessions with one and I loved it.
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Post by notneeson on Nov 9, 2019 11:07:26 GMT -6
I really like ksm 44s on toms. Pricey, but handy utility mics in general. Have always wanted to try the cheaper cardiod version.
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 9, 2019 11:27:06 GMT -6
Ever try M88’s? 160’s are pretty cool too and work great on guitar amps. Yet, I kinda want a side address for the space. Tired of the tall obtrusive tom mic. The less in common with the 421, the happier I will be!! Haha |
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Post by mulmany on Nov 9, 2019 13:02:23 GMT -6
I use e604's or M179's if micing individual Tom's.
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 9, 2019 13:37:36 GMT -6
My lowly e604 always work perfectly for me. I find nothing wrong with them and never felt the need for an upgrade. Am I crazy? Am I crazy for liking them on guitar cabs as well? Not my fave, but usable. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by drbill on Nov 9, 2019 14:07:07 GMT -6
Oh, and BTW, if I'm in someone elses studio and they will let me.....
U87's!!!
Not putting mine on there though... LOL
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 9, 2019 14:19:37 GMT -6
Beyer M201s. Great on toms and much more affordable than M88s. This is assuming you're close micing, which I don't do anymore.
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Post by mhep on Nov 10, 2019 1:51:44 GMT -6
ATM25 and ATM230s. I like 604s on smaller toms.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 10, 2019 4:03:07 GMT -6
Got an ATM25 from Japan for kick drum duties when my M88 broke and it’s great. I need to try it on toms, maybe I’ll go full ATM25!
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Post by mhep on Nov 10, 2019 19:18:19 GMT -6
Got an ATM25 from Japan for kick drum duties when my M88 broke and it’s great. I need to try it on toms, maybe I’ll go full ATM25! I keep a pair handy. |
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Post by swurveman on Nov 11, 2019 8:09:47 GMT -6
I used MD421's, but they pick up a lot of bleed. The E604's are very convenient for placement and sounded good when the tom is hit. They do rattle though. So, the convenience of clipping of them is offset. I'd put them on stands. If I ever record a live drum set again I'd invest in great gates. Editing tom hits to silence the bleed when they are not hit is a pain in the ass.
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Post by subspace on Nov 11, 2019 8:50:56 GMT -6
I was excited to get three e904s last year during the $99 evolution sale, put them on toms for the first session, took them right back off and dragged the 421 stands out again. Got a pair of e906s in the same sale but haven't tried them on toms yet. If the 421s don't fit, I generally go to EV N/D408As. If I'm going for a flatter vintage sound I dig RE15s.
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Post by Ward on Nov 11, 2019 8:54:04 GMT -6
I use e604's or M179's if micing individual Tom's. How do you adjust their settings and position them? |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 11, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -6
I've been using a 906 on my rack tom lately.
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Post by jamiesego on Nov 11, 2019 9:15:26 GMT -6
I got the ATM 230 three pack when I saw Jackpot post about it on instagram. I think they sound great and the bleed is very controlled. I have an ATM 25 that I use on floor tom sometimes and I don't notice a huge difference.
Otherwise I sometimes use RE20's on floor toms or if I'm really feeling wild I'll use my pair of M160's or a Stager SR2N.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 11, 2019 9:36:26 GMT -6
I got the ATM 230 three pack when I saw Jackpot post about it on instagram. I think they sound great and the bleed is very controlled. I have an ATM 25 that I use on floor tom sometimes and I don't notice a huge difference. Otherwise I sometimes use RE20's on floor toms or if I'm really feeling wild I'll use my pair of M160's or a Stager SR2N. Thanks for the heads up about the ATM230 and the pack. It looks like these could be a step up for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 9:42:23 GMT -6
ATM230's are nice. I noticed an improvement in how drums have been coming out overall since getting them, not just the toms themselves (also improved). I still manually gate them often, but the bleed is certainly a lot less and more tolerable than other mics I've tried, so it feels more optional now.
ATM25's are great too, but the advantage the 230's has over them is the size. 230's are easier to position optimally in tighter quarters.
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