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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2019 18:53:02 GMT -6
One of these is likely in my immediate future.
I sold both my older amps, tried the marshal origin 20 and strymon iridium,but felt like a fender based amp was more the ticket:
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Post by svart on Nov 8, 2019 19:02:03 GMT -6
Blackstar was formed by Marshall employees.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2019 19:06:17 GMT -6
Thx yes I know:) I had a bs studio club 40 mki, paid too much for it used, got it home, it got noisy so then spent more having tech do a bunch of stuff : anyway sold it and lost money:)
But am keen to buy a new new amp and really like this studio10 6l6!
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 8, 2019 21:22:24 GMT -6
Most of the Blackstars I've encountered have been junk. "Former Marshall employees"? Maybe the employees who were canned for being responsible for some of those really atrocious hybrid and budget SS Marshalls.
AFAIK no Blackstar is really "Fender based".
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2019 22:47:57 GMT -6
They just use that language to distinguish between a british Marshall sound vs a us or fender sound. I don’t care so much about terms but do like the way this amp sounds.
so, many demos stress the over the top distortion of amps , which I don’t want and dislike .
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Post by notneeson on Nov 9, 2019 11:09:44 GMT -6
They just use that language to distinguish between a british Marshall sound vs a us or fender sound. I don’t care so much about terms but do like the way this amp sounds. so, many demos stress the over the top distortion of amps , which I don’t want and dislike . If it’s meant to be a low wattage studio amp. I’d definitely try out something 6v6 based as well. Like anything, it depends what you’re going for. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 11:19:01 GMT -6
Exactly, and at least in the videos I just like the tone. Unfortunately, local store can’t get for 30-60 days: drag.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 9, 2019 11:32:03 GMT -6
I can help here. Tell me more about what you are looking for. Studio amp? Or home playing amp? What sounds do you need/like? Budget? Space considerations? Do you own any cabs already?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 13:11:43 GMT -6
For recording, mostly sixties styles . Don’t do overthetop playing. I have a blonde strat and les Paul. My recording room is small.
I write mostly on guitar so I like clean tones and channels , but for lead stuff like up to SRV and Hendrix.
Someone just listed an egnator rebel , so I’ll go check that, interesting mix of fender to Marshall with the mix knob.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 13:18:09 GMT -6
Ps trying not to spend big bucks $7-800 cdn would be $5-600 usd ballpark: kind of depends!
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 9, 2019 15:54:02 GMT -6
I was going to suggest the Fender Deluxe Tweed, but it's expensive and that amp comes with a learning curve. There are many builders doing 5E3 clones but you should definitely try one before going that route. That amp goes from 50s clean to Hotel California solo tones (both guitars, LP and Tele).
I know the designer of the Origin. Well, he actually left the company before the amp came out and they changed a few things. He specifically recommented the 20 over the 50, and the head version. I paired mine with a 1x12 cab with a Celestion Type A and the amp sounds really good, very big range of sounds, including some stellar cleans. I then spent some extra replacing the tubes with a custom set from Tube Amp Doctor and it went from really good to absolutely awesome! So don't discount that amp yet. If you have a combo with a good speaker already you can use the head with that combo, you just need an adaptor with two female jacks (Neutrik makes one).
Do you have a lot of pedals?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 16:11:47 GMT -6
He’s right I tried the head and it sounded really good into a 4x12, the 20 watt combo: anemic!
I just got an Egnator rebel in really good shape: 20 watt tube: 6v6 and ek34 snd a mix pot so you can dial in the sound, anothevoot for watt 1–20, 3 pots for eq and gain and master and couple of switches for tight and bright, cane with a kustom eminence 12: pretty pleased: decent price.
Thx for suggestions.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 9, 2019 17:41:22 GMT -6
That’s a brilliant tube arrangement! I think it’ll work great for you. Congrats!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 18:05:53 GMT -6
I am very pleased, the amp’s not abused, original tubes ( all groove tube) but no funny noises. It is very versatile, takes my comp and ocd pedal really well. The kustom cab, although small and open, seemed resonant. I had some roxal board sound insulation, so cut pieces to compression fit inside, to close it and absorb/ dampen those resonances, so now sounds even purer and less resonant. It’s not a powerhouse but for recording: seems great. I am just tracking a new song, so will fire up the rebel for recording duties this weekend. Again thx for the suggestions and insights!  |
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Post by stratboy on Nov 9, 2019 18:35:36 GMT -6
+1!
I love my Egnater Tweaker 15 head.
Under appreciated amp builder, IMO.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 10, 2019 9:58:40 GMT -6
I've had two Blackstars, the 20 W and the 5 W. Sold both. Liked the sound a lot, but they were both so noisy I just couldn't record with them. I heard an amazing amp yesterday called the Mercury V by Carr amps. It can be dialed in from 1 W- 20W. Sounded like the best Marshall and Fender had a baby, just perfect, but of course at $2,200, it was out of my jurisdiction.
have a listen kcat.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 10, 2019 10:10:56 GMT -6
I had a Blackstar HT Studio 20 head. It sounded pretty cool but it was too noisy. Also looked kind of shit regarding build quality and aesthetics. I guess I'm off of blackstar now.
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Post by stratboy on Nov 10, 2019 11:14:54 GMT -6
I had a Blackstar HT Studio 20 head. It sounded pretty cool but it was too noisy. Also looked kind of shit regarding build quality and aesthetics. I guess I'm off of blackstar now. Yeah, I traded in my Blackstar HT-5 for the Tweaker. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2019 12:48:19 GMT -6
I think concerns about blackstar quality are not unfounded, mine was noisy after spending a fair bit on it and retubing.
Did a simple guitar part with the Rebel, this morning: easily dialed in a sound and hit record.
I notice there seems to be a little ghosting of really low notes, not certain if it’s the amp or speaker; I’ll investigate.
Other than that , so far so good!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2019 12:50:44 GMT -6
Oh oh my friend (?  Martin is recommending an amp that would cost me close to 3 g’s: ouch !!! Big problem: I always love his amp recommendations: note: do not hit play! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 10, 2019 12:56:42 GMT -6
Amps are almost as bad as mics. You get what you pay for, ugh.. The Mercury V I tried yesterday had 6L6 tubes I believe. The one above has EL34's I think. The 6L6 was a bit more Fender like, but still has that beautiful Marshall first transient tone.
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Post by ragan on Nov 10, 2019 13:57:34 GMT -6
Haven’t watched that vid but I’ve been very impressed with that Mercury on a few occasions.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2019 14:25:51 GMT -6
Hell ,,someone had to post this !!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2019 14:33:04 GMT -6
I mean seriously what a track !! I recall getting seriously loaded, seriously out there and seriously in trouble with some gal at somebody else’s pool party, as this album blasted, but that’s all in the past! Ah, to our misspent youths’!
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Martin is recommending an amp that would cost me close to 3 g’s: ouch !!!