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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2019 6:13:25 GMT -6
Well, I found my way out of the bundle and some of it is pretty stupid on my part. You get sucked in with the pitch of so many plugins when in reality, a good handful is all you need for a record. Here is what my escape hatch was. It enables me to quit Slate, avoid any WUP from Waves and not rent the SSL Native bundle or anything else - no monthly spend. 1) Bought repeater to replace the H-Delay which was a mainstay for me 2) Buying 7th Heaven Pro to replace Relab rental. Will use along with Softube TSAR-1 3) Did testing and chose my existing Console 1 SSL for channel processing - better bottom end and ergonomics than other emulations. 4) Did testing and am happy with perpetual VBC Red 3 comp on master buss. Also tried SSL Native, VBC SSL, Waves API 2500. The SSL is more open but the Red 3 has better low end glue than all. My ME has no problem providing openness in my my mixes. 5) Will use perpetual VTM and VCC for vibe 6) Will use Antelope compressors and EQs on money channels like lead Vox and on busses Hop you find your solution, jcoutu1 I got out of Slate and left behind most of my Waves, for now at least. I WUP'd my Vocal Bundle and Rbass. Picked up the LiquidSonics bundle. Eventide Quadravox PSP L'otery NI Komplete Acustica Purple All set till next Black Friday now. 😂😂 Anyone wanna buy some hardware from me?
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 2, 2019 7:23:56 GMT -6
Mixbus, is a daw, I don’t know if you cdn get the eq separate, maybe check their website as they do have other separate plugs?
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 2, 2019 7:25:46 GMT -6
Jesse an audioscape v Comp for buck 50: I’m down !
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 22, 2020 9:21:53 GMT -6
Any more feedback on this topic?
I don’t own Slate anything. Was thinking about trying the All Acess yearly or maybe a month to see.
1.) Are the plugins still encased in VMR?
2.) Sound quality? How do they sound compared to Waves, UAD, PA, etc?
3.) I use UAD ( comps & verbs ) & FabFilter ( EQ, comp, MB & L2 ) & Waves ( SSL, Renaissance etc ).
4.) Does Waves need WUP payment if I updated my Mac OS?
Thanks
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 22, 2020 9:28:59 GMT -6
Any more feedback on this topic? I don’t own Slate anything. Was thinking about trying the All Acess yearly or maybe a month to see. 1.) Are the plugins still encased in VMR? 2.) Sound quality? How do they sound compared to Waves, UAD, PA, etc? 3.) I use UAD ( comps & verbs ) & FabFilter ( EQ, comp, MB & L2 ) & Waves ( SSL, Renaissance etc ). 4.) Does Waves need WUP payment if I updated my Mac OS? Thanks I switched from Slate to Plugin Alliance and and am happy I switched.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 22, 2020 9:32:48 GMT -6
LiquidSonics does a sale, it’s plate plug is also special.
during sales and launch of new products, they offer multiple coupon discounts based on products you own and they can be applied cumulatively on the new purchase: nice!
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 22, 2020 9:40:53 GMT -6
I still use VCC, but because of some issue in the latest Luna release, it’s crashing Luna...so I might not even use it at all now. (I own it) I just can’t get on board with the subscription thing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 9:50:11 GMT -6
Insanely powerful and flexible plugins: 1. Klanghelm. Use them all in the highest possible quality. Tony’s plugs are linear phase oversampled and digital artifact free unless you clip the output or overload the input. Buy everything. It’s cheap and sounds great. 2. Tokyo Dawn. They have a sale going on. Buy everything. 3. Voxengo. Insanely powerful plugins. Always enable linear phase oversampling. Rock out. Drumformer and Marquis are so cool and can. bring some tube crunch. 4. Fabfilter pro q 3 is great. Pro-C2 is only okay with some weird program dependencies and too digital sound. Saturn 2 doesn’t sound as good as SDRR 2 and Satin but is is Voxengo flexible.
Nails one thing: 5. Goodhertz rocks. Vulf and Faraday rule. Megaverb is the real sound of late 80s and early 90s rock and metal, not Slate. 7. Cytomic. Everything is awesome. The glue could be cooler but the Glue HD will come eventually 7. Uhe is cool but a lot of their products use minimum phase oversampling. Presswerk snaps and sounds great but is of more limited use than it claims. Satin is awesome. Colour copy is awesome. 8. Dmg is cool but the guis for the older plugins such as Compassion and Equilibrium are totally unusable. The new ones are fine if a bit buggy sometimes. Trackcomp is cool but some of the models are lame.
Drum samples: toon tracks has some great stuff, ugritone is specialized to classic metal not contemporary metal. I still like some of the slate kits. I just want them rawer than they’re in the VSTis a lot of the time.
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Post by ragan on Sept 22, 2020 9:58:35 GMT -6
Any more feedback on this topic? I don’t own Slate anything. Was thinking about trying the All Acess yearly or maybe a month to see. 1.) Are the plugins still encased in VMR? 2.) Sound quality? How do they sound compared to Waves, UAD, PA, etc? 3.) I use UAD ( comps & verbs ) & FabFilter ( EQ, comp, MB & L2 ) & Waves ( SSL, Renaissance etc ). 4.) Does Waves need WUP payment if I updated my Mac OS? Thanks In my experience, Slate is on par with UAD and PA, emulation wise. Better than Waves (taken as averages). I've been out of the Slate bundle for a year or two now and I'm glad to be out. I just don't like renting plugins. I do miss a few Slate plugs. The Custom Series EQ, VTC and the API EQ mainly. Most of them are still in the VMR rack, which I like and don't like. It's handy for tweaking chains and choosing things, but when you're looking at your mix you just see an ocean of generic "VMR" inserts and don't really know what's going on. I really dislike that. As for WUP, you need to log in to your account and see what versions of Waves you have licenses for. It'll tell you compatibility with OS versions there too. If you do the Slate rental and then get out of it, it is annoying to go back into old mixes and have a bunch of empty VMR shells to have to sort out equivalents for. Definitely replace anything Slate while you can still hear it/compare, before you ditch the rental. On the whole, I'm way happier having purchased the Liquidsonics reverbs, TH-U and some PA channel strips. And as always, FabFilter is everywhere in my sessions. Mostly Pro-Q3 and Pro-L2.
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Post by Tbone81 on Sept 22, 2020 11:11:46 GMT -6
I really like the virtual tube collection, but I just can’t enough saturation plugins, they each have their place. I also love Repeater but that’s not technically a slate plug, just sold with their bundle (but available without it).
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Post by ragan on Sept 22, 2020 11:29:12 GMT -6
Oh yeah, Repeater is my absolute favorite delay. That was another one I bought when getting out of the Slate rental.
I just basically timed my subscription to expire around Black Friday and bought perpetual licenses of everything I wanted while the sales were on.
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Post by tkaitkai on Sept 22, 2020 11:44:46 GMT -6
I'll always be a fan of Slate, but I don't know if any of his plugins absolutely essential at this point. Just some nice stuff to have. If you already have UAD, PA, Waves, and FabFilter, adding more to the mix is probably overkill.
Then again, I'm sitting here with 6 different 1176 emulations, so on second thought, fuck it. Go Slate.
SSD 3 was one of the first pro audio purchases I made when I started back in 2009. Instantly made me sound like I knew what I was doing. Things have changed a lot since then, but I still have to thank Steven for helping me get my start.
The FG-Stress, Infinity EQ, and Verbsuite Classics are highlights for me. I sometimes consider the subscription just for those.
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Post by nick8801 on Sept 22, 2020 13:35:54 GMT -6
I dig the virtual mix rack. I use that and his reverb suites. His Bricasti emulation is pretty great. After my everything sub is up, I’ll probably just buy those two and call it a day.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 23, 2020 7:03:50 GMT -6
Excellent info gentlemen! Thanks for providing your experience. Was briefly blinded by the 9.99 Monthly all access pass Was really interested in Verbsuite, Fg Stress, infinity & Air Eq’s but y’all listed a bunch of great alternatives. Ragan, great points regarding future session recalls, and “ VMR “ being scattered thru the PT inserts! I didn’t even think about that b/c I haven’t used VMR just stand alone plugs like VBC & FGX.
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Post by ragan on Sept 23, 2020 8:24:58 GMT -6
I dig the virtual mix rack. I use that and his reverb suites. His Bricasti emulation is pretty great. After my everything sub is up, I’ll probably just buy those two and call it a day. The Bricasti stuff in Verbsuite is from Liquidsonics Seventh Heaven. Something to consider if you’re buying something. Fwiw they (Liquidsonics) are my favorite verbs. I bought Lustruous Plate, Seventh Heaven Pro and Illusion in the Black Friday sale last year (as I was getting out of the Slate rental) and just really love them. And VMR licenses can sometimes be had cheaply on GS classifieds, since it’s one of the licenses a lot of people had before the rental option was available and people often sell it when they jump into renting.
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Post by M57 on Dec 11, 2021 7:17:36 GMT -6
Bump..
Anyone else still have All Access?
Currently I don't subscribe to anything else. I stay away from Waves (I had an unpleasant and unexpected experience with the WUP), or any other subscription based stuff, and I'm picking up the stray plugin here and there with the idea of weaning myself off the bundle. But I still find myself using the VTM, Fresh Air, VMR on drums (it's super convenient), some of the compressors on occasion. I know I'm only a few plugs away from beating the habit, but it's a handy and diverse tool-kit at the right price.
And they keep adding stuff to the bundle, like MO-TT, MetaTune, Murda Melodies, Fresh Air and some synths, etc. Of course, the GUI's are all sexy (I like sexy), and though their functionality is silly-hyped they do sound good. I have my opinions, but I'm curious if anyone else has tried these?
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 11, 2021 7:30:34 GMT -6
Anyone still using VCC?
I bought Console 1 and a few channel strips (it has "Drive" as their take on console saturation) plus I now have several pieces of tube hardware on my stereo bus so I'm wondering about the benefit of VCC?
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 11, 2021 8:29:56 GMT -6
It’s really just software summing and console distortion. I’d focus on learning console 1 and if you are unhappy then consider vcc.
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Post by ragan on Dec 11, 2021 9:32:50 GMT -6
It’s really just software summing and console distortion. I’d focus on learning console 1 and if you are unhappy then consider vcc. And it’s not even “summing” at all. That is entirely handled by the DAW. It’s just distortion. Can sound cool for sure, but it’s just a drive plug-in, no summing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 9:40:50 GMT -6
It’s really just software summing and console distortion. I’d focus on learning console 1 and if you are unhappy then consider vcc. And it’s not even “summing” at all. That is entirely handled by the DAW. It’s just distortion. Can sound cool for sure, but it’s just a drive plug-in, no summing. Does VCC have crosstalk like SDRR2 Desk, Lindell 80 Bus (50 bus has none), or Fuse TCS-68?
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Post by ragan on Dec 11, 2021 10:13:40 GMT -6
And it’s not even “summing” at all. That is entirely handled by the DAW. It’s just distortion. Can sound cool for sure, but it’s just a drive plug-in, no summing. Does VCC have crosstalk like SDRR2 Desk, Lindell 80 Bus (50 bus has none), or Fuse TCS-68? Probably on the stereo mixbus plug. Still isn’t ‘summing’ any more than any other stereo plug instance. When it first came out, people were thinking the instances actually fed audio to one another and ‘summed’.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 11, 2021 10:21:46 GMT -6
I think the original marketing blurb talked about the cumulative affect of having vcc on various groups and your master, implying it was summing but, agreed, really just cumulative distortion.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 11, 2021 13:47:08 GMT -6
Does VCC have crosstalk like SDRR2 Desk, Lindell 80 Bus (50 bus has none), or Fuse TCS-68? Probably on the stereo mixbus plug. Still isn’t ‘summing’ any more than any other stereo plug instance. When it first came out, people were thinking the instances actually fed audio to one another and ‘summed’. And my memory may be faulty on this, but my recollection is that Steven was a bit cagey for awhile about this.
And of course he promised to liberate the VMR plugs from the rack many years ago, but has never done it.
But my favorite is probably how his whole argument for VMR when they launched was that - It's faster (though not if you also use anybody else's plugs in your workflow, of course) and
- All of the plugs would be in the same shell, and hence it would be easy to update everything due to sharing common code. So surely Slate was one of the first companies to be Apple Silicon ready, right? What's that? They're still not Apple Silicon native? But how can that be? What about all that common code? What about the shell?!?
When Waves beats you to market with a compatibility update, you're in trouble.
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Post by enlav on Dec 11, 2021 17:15:18 GMT -6
When Waves beats you to market with a compatibility update, you're in trouble. Did FG-X 2 ever get released? twitter.com/SlateProAudio/status/693211246045171712?s=20
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 11, 2021 18:29:04 GMT -6
When Waves beats you to market with a compatibility update, you're in trouble. Did FG-X 2 ever get released? twitter.com/SlateProAudio/status/693211246045171712?s=20 No. No, it did not.
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