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Post by soundintheround on Sept 5, 2019 9:53:56 GMT -6
Just want to give a heads up to this website/forum resource in case not already familiar..... johnlsayers.com/Recmanual/Titles/Acoustics3.htmHelped alot with my home studio build. Main take aways for me are: 1. The more you trap sound inside a room (not very large ones), the more you will have to work to treat it. So sometimes not such a bad thing to let some bass leak out, if it's do-able. 2. "Inside out Wall" worked great for me in my smaller room and saves a ton of space/money. 3. Room inside a room works best. Skip the green glue / clips etc and do this instead if its possible. |
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 6, 2019 0:14:10 GMT -6
Just want to give a heads up to this website/forum resource in case not already familiar..... johnlsayers.com/Recmanual/Titles/Acoustics3.htmHelped alot with my home studio build. Main take aways for me are: 1. The more you trap sound inside a room (not very large ones), the more you will have to work to treat it. So sometimes not such a bad thing to let some bass leak out, if it's do-able. 2. "Inside out Wall" worked great for me in my smaller room and saves a ton of space/money. 3. Room inside a room works best. Skip the green glue / clips etc and do this instead if its possible. Even if you do the room within a room you should still have a double layer of sheetrock with green glue in between. Not much point in a room within a room if your inner room leaks like a sieve. |
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Post by soundintheround on Sept 6, 2019 9:02:36 GMT -6
Sheetrock, yes.
Greenglue and clips...not so sure.
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Post by ericn on Jun 22, 2021 17:07:47 GMT -6
Sheetrock, yes. Greenglue and clips...not so sure. Some swear by green glue, others good generic acoustic caulk. The one thing I’ll give the guys at green glue, it’s on the shelf at every Menards. |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jun 23, 2021 16:09:16 GMT -6
Sheetrock, yes. Greenglue and clips...not so sure. Some swear by green glue, others good generic acoustic caulk. The one thing I’ll give the guys at green glue, it’s on the shelf at every Menards. In my new room that I recently finished, I used DAP Dynaflex 230. Room inside a room and I used it to seal up every seam in the outer room that I could. No idea how much it helped, but it was a cheaper alternative and I know it's better than air. Edit: shit, forgot my original reason for replying - I used Sayer's room dimension spreadsheet and found it to be super helpful in planning things out. |
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Post by Quint on Jun 23, 2021 16:44:36 GMT -6
Some swear by green glue, others good generic acoustic caulk. The one thing I’ll give the guys at green glue, it’s on the shelf at every Menards. In my new room that I recently finished, I used DAP Dynaflex 230. Room inside a room and I used it to seal up every seam in the outer room that I could. No idea how much it helped, but it was a cheaper alternative and I know it's better than air. Edit: shit, forgot my original reason for replying - I used Sayer's room dimension spreadsheet and found it to be super helpful in planning things out. On the Sayers website, they are quick to point out that Green Glue, and any knock offs if they now exist, are meant for dampening between sheets and NOT for sealing up joints or seams. Where some of the confusion comes in is that I believe the GG company does also sell caulk for sealing joints, but it's called something else. When you hear people generically refer to Green Glue, it's usually in reference to the dampening compound used between sheets and not for joint seals. So I'm not sure to which is being referred by people sometimes. On a personal note, I've had great success with GE caulk for sealing joints. It's not cheap, but it's easy to work with and stays completely rubber-like long after it's cured. Which is definitely what you want. I don't ever really worry about it cracking. |
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jun 23, 2021 20:34:35 GMT -6
In my new room that I recently finished, I used DAP Dynaflex 230. Room inside a room and I used it to seal up every seam in the outer room that I could. No idea how much it helped, but it was a cheaper alternative and I know it's better than air. Edit: shit, forgot my original reason for replying - I used Sayer's room dimension spreadsheet and found it to be super helpful in planning things out. On the Sayers website, they are quick to point out that Green Glue, and any knock offs if they now exist, are meant for dampening between sheets and NOT for sealing up joints or seams. Great point and correction. I've done a ton of GG work and you're totally right. It's all about the surface sandwich. My post about DAP was regarding joints for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 0:02:51 GMT -6
In my new room that I recently finished, I used DAP Dynaflex 230. Room inside a room and I used it to seal up every seam in the outer room that I could. No idea how much it helped, but it was a cheaper alternative and I know it's better than air. Edit: shit, forgot my original reason for replying - I used Sayer's room dimension spreadsheet and found it to be super helpful in planning things out. On the Sayers website, they are quick to point out that Green Glue, and any knock offs if they now exist, are meant for dampening between sheets and NOT for sealing up joints or seams. Where some of the confusion comes in is that I believe the GG company does also sell caulk for sealing joints, but it's called something else. When you hear people generically refer to Green Glue, it's usually in reference to the dampening compound used between sheets and not for joint seals. So I'm not sure to which is being referred by people sometimes. On a personal note, I've had great success with GE caulk for sealing joints. It's not cheap, but it's easy to work with and stays completely rubber-like long after it's cured. Which is definitely what you want. I don't ever really worry about it cracking. I believe the stuff you put between your sandwiched layers is the "GG Compound" and the caulking is the "GG Sealant". It's hard to get reliable information. The internet, if you Google "Green Glue Alternatives" gives you ten web sites, none of which agree on which alternatives work and which are a total, unmitigated disaster. |
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Post by wiz on Sept 16, 2021 18:46:48 GMT -6
I read yesterday that John Sayers passed away... RIP
I spoke to him once, and he was generous with his time and advice.
Helped many many people with their studios...
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