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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 30, 2019 20:58:03 GMT -6
Totally understand what you guys are saying...I just know me. Looks matter lol I completely get this. It’s one of the reasons I’ve been itching to get one of Indiehouse’s Modded MK67 kits in here, because I know for a few hundred dollars more I can get a new microphone sleeve and black badge and it will look like a U67 hanging on the mic stand and not just another cheap clone. Its also the reason I’ve had a hard time convincing myself to pull the trigger on the FleA 49 Next. By all accounts it will match my FleA 49 vintage sonically, but it won’t look like an M49. Sounds crazy, but it is something I take into consideration. Even when looking at the 251s, I love that the Upton looks like an original, but even the Bock, which has its own look, looks sharp and looks quality.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2019 21:06:02 GMT -6
Totally understand what you guys are saying...I just know me. Looks matter lol I completely get this. It’s one of the reasons I’ve been itching to get one of Indiehouse’s Modded MK67 kits in here, because I know for a few hundred dollars more I can get a new microphone sleeve and black badge and it will look like a U67 hanging on the mic stand and not just another cheap clone. Its also the reason I’ve had a hard time convincing myself to pull the trigger on the FleA 49 Next. By all accounts it will match my FleA 49 vintage sonically, but it won’t look like an M49. Sounds crazy, but it is something I take into consideration. Even when looking at the 251s, I love that the Upton looks like an original, but even the Bock, which has its own look, looks sharp and looks quality. I mean, we’re all nuts to some extent. There are forums for nuts like us. Oh wait...I started one. I scoff at the snobbery of belittling this. Yeah, so and so made a seminal album on a insert cheap mic here...but by god you can bet he or she wanted a 47 lol. Look at all the great guitar players. They’re all collectors. Clapton, I could name twenty others but you get the point. And what’s funny is the Upton isn’t a 251 either - but until I have $30k to throw at owning one (I’m not sure I could even do it then) - this satiates me. I will say this though - my experience has been that you get what you pay for. Now, I would agree that for the most part, Stam has kindve bucked that trend. Seriously. The component list on that 251 is impressive. But I’d have to hear it first.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 30, 2019 21:29:09 GMT -6
Looks are not superficial. They speak to the care given inside. Love has energy, and when you build something with care that energy is transmitted to the product. Details do matter. Beauty can be felt., And it can change the way you feel when using something like a fine microphone. Same thing with the fine car or anything for that matter.
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Post by drbill on Jun 30, 2019 22:21:59 GMT -6
Totally understand what you guys are saying...I just know me. Looks matter lol When you're laying out that amount, looks are very important. I want to be inspired when I put up a mic. If it resides inside a generic chinese body that's also on 100,000 $400 mics with a generic paint job, and a $7 shock mount, it's a little hard to get excited. I go so far as to say that for me, the Binders, and yoke mounts, well enclosed PS with a jewel lens, etc. are all very important. It makes the resale so much better, the experience excellent, and the investment solid. I agree with you all the way - looks matter.
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Post by lando on Jul 1, 2019 8:42:31 GMT -6
Also it can make the talent be inspired and perform better. That is kinda priceless.
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Post by mythundreamt on Jul 1, 2019 8:49:05 GMT -6
Late to the party (what else is new) and only echoing everything already said here, but I have a mk67 (stock) and an Upton 251 and also a Wunder CM7-GS. Because of its versatility, the mk67 will never ever ever leave my collection. I'll postulate that one could record every single track of every single song on a record with just mk67s and some EQs. The Upton on the other hand either works amazingly well on a voice or completely loses to the Wunder (which is also rather versatile), depending on the song and singer.
More than any other mic in the world, I'd want one more of each: another mk67 and another Upton 251! If only these things didn't cost what they do..Good job not breaking up that pair of mk67s.
Looks do matter very much. I'm in the nuts category myself obviously, I will never be happy with something that looks like the Stam even if it sounds as good as the Upton, and can't even explain why. Why do we torture ourselves like this?
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 1, 2019 9:59:29 GMT -6
Let’s say the Stam and the Upton sound identical and the aesthetics remain the same for each. Are you ok with shelling out an extra $2.7k for metalwork? All hypothetical. But I’m definitely in the looks matter camp, and that Upton has it going on.
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Post by drbill on Jul 1, 2019 10:38:46 GMT -6
Let’s say the Stam and the Upton sound identical and the aesthetics remain the same for each. Are you ok with shelling out an extra $2.7k for metalwork? All hypothetical. But I’m definitely in the looks matter camp, and that Upton has it going on. That's a tough question, but I don't think it's going to be an accurate one. I'd be willing to put money on one or the other sounding better. And having an american company that will hold your hand in getting their mic to sound exactly how you want it with the extra esthetics? Without having to wait years? No brainer to me.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 1, 2019 10:47:35 GMT -6
Let’s say the Stam and the Upton sound identical and the aesthetics remain the same for each. Are you ok with shelling out an extra $2.7k for metalwork? All hypothetical. But I’m definitely in the looks matter camp, and that Upton has it going on. That's a tough question, but I don't think it's going to be an accurate one. I'd be willing to put money on one or the other sounding better. And having an american company that will hold your hand in getting their mic to sound exactly how you want it with the extra esthetics? Without having to wait years? No brainer to me. Good points.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 1, 2019 12:51:38 GMT -6
I think it would be different if Stam really cleaned up his act and you could just order it and get it in a week or two, but it’s not like that. December is probably wishful thinking considering how many people I know haven’t gotten their SA67s yet, despite all of the talk of “catching up.” That said, it does have all the right parts. If I were doing a custom build those are the parts I’d want in it. I’d just choose a better looking body kit.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 1, 2019 13:54:57 GMT -6
I think it would be different if Stam really cleaned up his act and you could just order it and get it in a week or two, but it’s not like that. December is probably wishful thinking considering how many people I know haven’t gotten their SA67s yet, despite all of the talk of “catching up.” That said, it does have all the right parts. If I were doing a custom build those are the parts I’d want in it. I’d just choose a better looking body kit. The headbasket looks nice, though. I think I read they had that custom made. The color looks off to me. Wish they would adjust that. And I don’t like the glaring red badge. Also, the Upton swivel mount is sweet. But, mo’ money.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 1, 2019 17:09:40 GMT -6
No doubt Tim knows what he’s doing...and above, I mentioned that everything I’ve gotten from a stam has been extremely impressive...but I am beyond blown away with this current Upton. I just think Dallas has really nailed down the sound he’s looking for. I was talking to him the other day and he mentioned using REW to dial in the capsules (not sure of the details). He mentioned in the past he was trying to match his vintage 251 - which is a little brighter - but has really settled in to making them sound like what he sent me.
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Post by saltyjames on Oct 28, 2019 10:36:56 GMT -6
I ordered 2 Stam 67's. They just have that 67 sound nailed. I mean buying a pair of U67?? That's a lot of $$ Also, I'm trying to learn more about the spiritual attribute of patience so this will do me well on both fronts.
The B game is this: is they slow roll me so much on the SA67's I will cancel the order and put that $ toward a real 67.
...or a pair of Coles 4038.
...or a Cvrse copper plate.
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Post by damoongo on Oct 28, 2019 13:04:10 GMT -6
The B game is this: is they slow roll me so much on the SA67's I will cancel the order and put that $ toward a real 67. ...or a pair of Coles 4038. ...or a Cvrse copper plate. Nice plan B...
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Post by soundintheround on Oct 29, 2019 13:38:52 GMT -6
I ordered 2 Stam 67's. They just have that 67 sound nailed. I mean buying a pair of U67?? That's a lot of $$ Also, I'm trying to learn more about the spiritual attribute of patience so this will do me well on both fronts. The B game is this: is they slow roll me so much on the SA67's I will cancel the order and put that $ toward a real 67. ...or a pair of Coles 4038. ...or a Cvrse copper plate. Not exactly sure what you mean by they have it nailed....? They haven't even released the Rev2 mic, I'm not even sure it is even finished being designed yet (although according to Josh it is finished and shipping next week lol) But sounds like you got it all figured out.
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Post by chessparov on Oct 29, 2019 16:13:43 GMT -6
IMHO having Tim Campbell involved with Stam... Will help on many levels, even beyond the capsule. Great steadying influence. Chris
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Post by soundintheround on Oct 29, 2019 19:06:15 GMT -6
Hope so. He’s a talented guy and I’m a fan of his work.
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Post by soundintheround on Oct 30, 2019 11:42:15 GMT -6
Btw.....after already thinking I would do this anyway, this thread has convinced me to go with a pair of 67s rather than a 67 and 251! (Clones, not real unfortunatatley) Also; I 100% agree on the Looks argument. They matter to me as well. If I had a studio full of vintage gear and going for a particular authentic old school vibe, it should hopefully match with that aesthetic. I don't need dragons or flames on it. Even if someone put out an all-in-one amazing box packed full of great transformers and discrete electronics with many saturation options..... but the thing was white and pink, rainbow colored LEDs and had knobs that looked like they came form a children's toy...it would certainly influence my purchase. Make the thing black, ampex silver or Pultec gray, with some chunky black knobs and call it a day. Keep it as boring as possible so us musicians with ADD can focus on the music and use the gear as a tool....that's my take on the matter
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