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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 24, 2019 21:42:48 GMT -6
I can't hear the tracks unless I accept Google's terms for the Google player. So, all of you are OK with it? I'm skeptical about signing on with them.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 24, 2019 21:54:54 GMT -6
I usually use my Chromebook (Google based), and never have had any concerns with Google Player FWIW.
I think you'll be fine.
Chris
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 26, 2019 14:36:26 GMT -6
So at the risk of sounding like a shill - and yes, I can sell you one of these - I’m completely blown away by this mic. Dallas has obviously dialed the capsule making process in, because this is better than the one I made all the “upgrades” to.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 26, 2019 14:52:45 GMT -6
This is why Todd's recent question, about the ADK version, is a tough question. For an enthusiast like me, I'm confident I'd be very happy with the Z-251. But the more anyone (or me for that matter), are towards the Commercial Pro Zone...
Making release level recordings, or pitching Song Demos, that'd push them towards the Upton. Shoot I like it better, than the U67 RI! Making me rethink my general "251 evaluation".
Chris
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Post by roundbadge on Jun 26, 2019 19:55:41 GMT -6
Upton for the win.on your voice.3-d.sounds great!
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Post by roundbadge on Jun 26, 2019 19:59:46 GMT -6
anyone ever get to hear the analog anonymous version?
he says the capsule is more "vintage" tuning and nos GE and diff output cap.
but after a couple years [and prolly a lot of feedback]and hearing these samples here it seems Dallas has the tuning really dialed in now.
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Post by roundbadge on Jun 26, 2019 20:28:19 GMT -6
How much are the Uptons?
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Post by seawell on Jun 26, 2019 22:36:41 GMT -6
anyone ever get to hear the analog anonymous version? he says the capsule is more "vintage" tuning and nos GE and diff output cap. but after a couple years [and prolly a lot of feedback]and hearing these samples here it seems Dallas has the tuning really dialed in now. I’d say @johnkenn’s new samples sound like another level to me than the experience I had with the analog anonymous version. I’d go with the new stock one. |
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Post by roundbadge on Jun 26, 2019 23:28:21 GMT -6
anyone ever get to hear the analog anonymous version? he says the capsule is more "vintage" tuning and nos GE and diff output cap. but after a couple years [and prolly a lot of feedback]and hearing these samples here it seems Dallas has the tuning really dialed in now. I’d say @johnkenn’s new samples sound like another level to me than the experience I had with the analog anonymous version. I’d go with the new stock one. I'm kinda feeling that too. if you don't mind seawell could you share your thoughts on the AA version? thnxx! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2019 7:35:25 GMT -6
anyone ever get to hear the analog anonymous version? he says the capsule is more "vintage" tuning and nos GE and diff output cap. but after a couple years [and prolly a lot of feedback]and hearing these samples here it seems Dallas has the tuning really dialed in now. Dallas will tune it however you want straight from the factory...and honestly, I thought the GE 5 Star was bright when I tried one in the past. I guess I should start telling Dallas to tune it like “1967”, but an NOS tube and sell it for an upcharge. |
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Post by mythundreamt on Jun 27, 2019 11:51:31 GMT -6
Sounds like its time for me to get that second Upton. But.. my savings! Those Barefoots..
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2019 13:25:34 GMT -6
really hard to pick one from the clips of those two
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Post by chessparov on Jul 4, 2019 14:07:48 GMT -6
If you HAVE to have an exact Neumann U47 tube mic sound, you have to have an original U47. (I'm a fan of many "inspired by" microphones BTW) But otherwise IMHO, we're living in the golden age of vocal microphones-right now. (as I hide my wallet!) Chris
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 4, 2019 14:45:45 GMT -6
I’m not really sure if Neumann cared if it was the VF14 if they had had access to different tubes...
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Post by chessparov on Jul 4, 2019 15:05:57 GMT -6
When Klaus' avatar is a VF-14 Licence Plate. Hmm... methinks it has significance in that alone! Paging Klaus now  ... Chris |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 4, 2019 15:22:18 GMT -6
You're probably right...older designs do seem to have made decisions based on quality and performance without any regard to cost. Maybe in 1948 or whatever the VF14 was the penultimate tube...no idea.
I don’t pretend to be any kind of expert concerning 80 year old tubes...aren’t there glass tubes inside the metal can?
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2019 15:28:57 GMT -6
You're probably right...older designs do seem to have made decisions based on quality and performance without any regard to cost. Maybe in 1948 or whatever the VF14 was the penultimate tube...no idea. I don’t pretend to be any kind of expert concerning 80 year old tubes...aren’t there glass tubes inside the metal can? The old metal tubes don't have glass inside of them, no, they are actually a "metal tube." Thee geek in me wants to think that this has got to be a part of the sound somehow. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 4, 2019 15:39:53 GMT -6
Just like I might wish sometimes, I had a time machine in my younger days, to go back and woo a gorgeous Screen Goddess-Like Gene Tierney or Susan Hayward...
I suppose us Microphone Geeks, need at least one beautiful "pin-up" Uobtainium LDC microphone to fantasize about!
Chris
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Post by Ward on Jul 4, 2019 16:06:03 GMT -6
You're probably right...older designs do seem to have made decisions based on quality and performance without any regard to cost. Maybe in 1948 or whatever the VF14 was the penultimate tube...no idea. I don’t pretend to be any kind of expert concerning 80 year old tubes...aren’t there glass tubes inside the metal can? That has been my understanding also |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 4, 2019 16:13:39 GMT -6
Both feel pretty different to me. The 251 has that sizzle that 251's are know for. But isn't over the top on your voice which is great.
Great mic's though.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 9, 2019 21:37:18 GMT -6
They both sound really, really good, but the Upton's the best choice here, IMO. You sound really great on it, Johnkenn. |
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Post by christopher on Jul 10, 2019 11:49:25 GMT -6
I’m not really sure if Neumann cared if it was the VF14 if they had had access to different tubes... A few weeks ago I was wondering same thing and why we can't remake the VF-14? and found this: repforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=34815.0I learned a great deal, it looks like it was a custom tube specifically for U47 and that's the only reason it was made. |
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Post by m03 on Jul 10, 2019 12:29:19 GMT -6
I learned a great deal, it looks like it was a custom tube specifically for U47 and that's the only reason it was made. Oliver Archut's comments here mention the non-M VF14s being slated for use in what I assume to be radios made for the domestic market in Germany: repforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=2414.0 |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2019 14:36:01 GMT -6
I had been using the Mullard 12AT7 in my Upton for months...thought I'd put the EH back in to see the difference. In one of these threads I think I had mentioned I didn't know which I liked better...well, damn - I much prefer the Mullard.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2019 14:41:24 GMT -6
A good Mullard just adds a presence which sounds refined .
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