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Post by christopher on Jun 11, 2019 15:59:04 GMT -6
I guess I'm optimistic to believe there's a way to manipulate RF to become ionizing, or maybe over the long term disrupt cells and turn them. Seems like a challenge our nation's brightest would have worked on. Summing multiple waves from different locations to create a node comes to mind. But heh... I'm a dreamer lol
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 11, 2019 17:10:46 GMT -6
I guess I'm optimistic to believe there's a way to manipulate RF to become ionizing, or maybe over the long term disrupt cells and turn them. Seems like a challenge our nation's brightest would have worked on. Summing multiple waves from different locations to create a node comes to mind. But heh... I'm a dreamer lol Did you read my post about weaponization? Anything can be purposefully made harmful.
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Post by ragan on Jun 11, 2019 18:45:24 GMT -6
I feel like saying too, directed at no individual, that we're in a really unfortunate cultural moment with the way we treat 'expertise'. There's a coalescence of gullibility that connects the lapper-uppers of garbage like InfoWars and the uber-urban hipsters trying to out-indie each other. From anti-vaxx to climate change, there are those who buy into the highly-curated, feverishly-pushed notion of 'common sense science'. Whereby people are duped into believing rampant nonsense because someone on YouTube makes a seemingly convincing, but utterly unsubstantive, exciting, conspiratorial claim and people who need to fill holes in their identity find all their itches being scratched as they discover a New Thing To Glom Onto.
This has been very effectively marshaled by the faux-populists currently surging around the globe. "Those over-educated elites are trying to manipulate you into subservience!!" cry millionaires funded by billionaires who don't give a fuck about any of it and are just trying to win the next election cycle to protect their financial interests. "If the spherical earth model is true then why don't we feel it rotating, huh??" says the guy filming himself on his iPhone as he drives over a bridge, owing his life to blood pressure meds, all of it being made possible by Over-Educated Elites^TM who, thankfully, don't get their knowledge from FreedomCrossbowDOTeagle.
And the most maddening part of it is, the same guy, when his plumber says, "Don't do _______ , it won't work as well," will treat it as gospel truth. And rightfully so. The plumber knows what the hell he's talking about when it comes to plumbing systems. Without any sense of irony or discordance, that same dude will watch some internet video and decide that cancer researchers or engineers or climate scientists are just a bunch of hacks and that he and his scrappy band of Free Thinkers^TM over at 4Chan know the REAL SCOOP.
It's depressing.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jun 11, 2019 19:34:30 GMT -6
For decades, the broadcast unions have been paying for research into finding adverse effects of transmitters on employees who climb the towers several times a month and come up with nothing. It turns out this topic has been highly promoted on the Internet by the Russians.
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Post by christopher on Jun 12, 2019 1:00:28 GMT -6
I've worked for countless CEO's and CFO's and executives in silicon valley,.. And talked to plenty of press from famous magazines. NOBODY is going to tell the truth, not me, not them. Everyone has to have their own experiences and do their own math. Here's a funny yelp story though, just for kicks... thehustle.co/botto-bistro-1-star-yelp/
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Post by ericn on Jun 12, 2019 6:42:33 GMT -6
For decades, the broadcast unions have been paying for research into finding adverse effects of transmitters on employees who climb the towers several times a month and come up with nothing. It turns out this topic has been highly promoted on the Internet by the Russians. I remember a guy who did inspections of broadcast towers and somebody asking him if he was afraid of the radiation or any other effects of being up there his response “ yeah one thing scares the hell out of me gravity “. If the idea of RF radiation scares you walk around a modern office building with an RF spectrum analyzer and see all the different WiFi and other signals then ad in all the 60HZ every electrical wire is giving off. What we eat and our lack of exercise is far more dangerous!
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 12, 2019 9:29:20 GMT -6
What would surprise most people to learn is that everyday were exposed to naturally occurring ionizing radiation. Some of it is background radiation coming from cosmic X-rays bombarding our planet. Some of it comes from minerals and heavy metals in the soil, like argon that is off put from granite. Ever take a swim in a natural hot springs? Guess what...more radiation! Mostly this is all harmless though and doesn’t decrease your life expectancy any more than breathing polluted air, or drinking tap water etc. And...people who get more of it (like the folks in Colorado) actually tend to live longer...!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jun 12, 2019 13:13:43 GMT -6
The San Francisco AES section toured an anechoic chamber in San Jose back in the '90s. It turned out that it had been designed for both audio and RFI testing. The person who gave the tour told us that a huge issue he saw looming was an unprecedented increase in background radiation that could disrupt a lot of the RF-based technology that we take for granted.
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Post by svart on Jun 12, 2019 14:29:00 GMT -6
The San Francisco AES section toured an anechoic chamber in San Jose back in the '90s. It turned out that it had been designed for both audio and RFI testing. The person who gave the tour told us that a huge issue he saw looming was an unprecedented increase in background radiation that could disrupt a lot of the RF-based technology that we take for granted. That's a very big concern, and one that is always on our minds. Take my field for instance, CATV, where we use high-bitrate digital modulated into analog channels that are 8MHz wide for a single digital TV channel, or single cable modem channel. In order to add increased bitrates, we'd either have to go to even higher order modulations schemes, or "bond" channels so that multiple channels act as a single higher-bandwidth channel. There were/are standards for many levels of higher order modulations, but they'd necessitate SNR's that are increasingly hard to reach, even on a closed system such as CATV. Our frequency range is now 5MHz-1200MHz, but we are running into a lot of LTE ingress in the 625MHz-975MHz range where the first band of LTE exists. Even very, very small amounts of LTE can cause bit-errors (BER) that degrade performance on double and quad-shielded mainline cables, so in light of this, we're moving away from higher-order modulations and moving to bonding channels and extending the CATV bandwidths to 1500 and 1800MHz in the coming years. Because we're a closed system, the gov is a lot less involved as long as we don't violate FAA mandates for causing interference (egress) on telco and other regulated systems, but it also means we have almost zero recourse if such things cause issues on our systems.
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