It's just a bug. Every developer has bugs. The more complicated your software, and the more it uses external peripherals and plugins from 3rd parties, the more bugs that will pop up. If you gotta live on the bleeding edge, well....you just gotta deal with it. It's the "new" studio troubleshooting / maintenance issue. Gone are the old days of recapping the console, replacing a scratchy pot, trying to figure out why the patch bay doesn't patch, or why the outboard piece is howling when it was't yesterday, Now it's debugging software (mostly).
Bugs don't appear in verified/finished code unless you go tinker with it. Someone went in there and messed with the VCA code on purpose. I don't even use ProTools, but I do software development.
wow, talk about not keeping up with modern computers lol. I hope they have an explanation for that decision. Even if it only spits out SPDIF via RCA jacks, that would still be better than a useless FW port. Is anyone who buys this really NOT going to already own an audio interface to handle AD/DA duties?
Show me a target market that owns a DA but not an AD and their computer still has FW ports lol
Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 18, 2017 8:25:29 GMT -6
They have info on their site. They use 2 channels on the AD chips per physical input. Some kind of splitter/joiner thing.
ChaseUTB each card in the symphony has max 16 channels going in and 16 going out. It might be 8 analog/8 digital going in, or 16 analog/0 digital. Same for output. The card I linked to is 16 analog in/16 analog out/0 digital in/0 digital out. The card you linked to was 8 analog in/out 8 digital in/out. Each chassis can house 2 cards for 32in/32out, be it 16 analog in/out 16 digital in/out or 24 analog io/8 digital io.
If you have no need for digital IO and need more than 8 channels of analog IO, then you buy the Symphony that comes with the 16x16 analog IO card for $4200. That card takes up only one slot in the chassis, so if you need to expand further later, you can add another 16x16analog card or an 8x8analog+8x8digital card.
You linked to a configuration that used up both slots to achieve 16 analog in/16 analog out. It also had another 16 of digital.
Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 17, 2017 18:33:59 GMT -6
No one forced you to upgrade your OS tho. Also, the Symphony has been out for 6 years, and a lot of people think that even tho UA, RME, Motu, Focusrite, etc released new interfaces, the 6-year-old Symphony's still sound better. So, yeah, I'd say that Apogee interface has stood the test of time. Everyone is starting to sound like they're drinking too much haterade in this thread. Get over it. You're not gonna like what decisions companies make regarding their products and development cycle.
Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 17, 2017 11:25:54 GMT -6
Anyone who bought a silverface Apollo would also be butt-hurt if they bought it a couple months before the blackface ones came out. I think the only company who hasn't released a new interface would be metric Halo. Everyone else (Motu, focusrite, etc) has pumped out new interfaces in the past couple years so it's not like we can't expect new interfaces from companies every couple years. It's kind of ridiculous to think that future-proof implies that we are not going to get new products that surpass the old ones.
Anaheim, California, January 19, 2016 - Apogee announces Symphony MK2. "Since its release in 2010, the first generation Symphony I/O..."
So, 5+ years of development time is considered "quick"?
Everyone in this thread who is complaining about manufacturers abandoning gear needs to realize that it's the manufacturers trying to keep up with the Operating System developers. Hell, did none of you get that email from SoundRadix saying "Don't Upgrade to High Sierra!!!" ? Especially the part where they said "Mac OSX has dropped support for Carbon in High Sierra". duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=394010 if you didn't get the email.
Do you guys remember when Avid dropped support for RTAS and introduced AAX??
Lol newsflash!! This just in!! Computer hardware and software manufacturers release updates to their products much more frequently than expected causing discontinuation of early versions! Early Adopters complain like they've never owned a computer before with an Intel CPU! Extra!! Extra!! Read all about it!!
I think line stages are very underestimated. A converter is a radio station next to low-level audio signals. Board layout and grounding are everything along with digital and analog power supplies that don't talk to each other.
Hash Tag, Analog
Hash Tag, Power Supply
Hash tag, the entire environment of the AD/DA converter as a properly functioning device with specifications to match.
Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 15, 2017 11:21:41 GMT -6
Before August 15th, you could exchange your Symphony MK1 chassis to a MK2 chassis for $999. I don't think any of you guys other than svart realize how much time and energy is required to create a new product like the Apollo BF or Symphony MK2, so when you complain that they abandoned their users, well, yeah. They have to pay for that R&D time!
Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 15, 2017 11:14:29 GMT -6
Kontakt is a plugin that Native Instruments developed that lots of other companies have created sample libraries for.
Over on the LASS forum, there is talk about how LASS users got kinda screwed when Native Instruments contracted AudioBro to create their symphony strings player. It's basically the interface LASS users have always wanted for using LASS, but never got.
I still haven't found anything that tops LASS' A + B ensembles if you write your score out by hand first, and then sequence each part separately.