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Post by indiehouse on Apr 5, 2021 11:53:01 GMT -6
This is something I've been struggling with in a recent mix. I wanted everything to be big. Big acoustics. Big vocals. Big strings. But was having a hell of a time trying to get separation between instruments, giving each their own space in the mix. So, if everything is "big", is then that counterproductive? Do you run out of space in the mix for each instrument if they are all big?
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 5, 2021 9:56:16 GMT -6
Bit of a ridiculous thread, I know. But just fishing for some thoughts here. I've got a CAPI Sumbus 16ch sitting here waiting to be built. I've also been considering upgrading my interface. Currently on a Motu 828ES/16a combo, with a Dangerous Convert-2 DA. It's the perfect amount of channels for the Sumbus, in addition to using my outboard.
I've been considering the Lynx Aurora (n), as that seems to make the most sense in terms of 'upgrading' the Motu conversion over say the Apollo X stuff, which I initially had planned. But getting 24 channels of Lynx Aurora conversion is a lot more than I should be spending.
One thought I had was getting an 8 channel Lynx with the ADAT card, and using that to send 16 channels out to the Motu 16a for sending to the Sumbus. But if I track everything with the Lynx's AD conversion, then ultimately just send everything out colored through the Motu's conversion, wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of upgrading to the Lynx in the first place? And I'd also be limited to tracking at 48k in order to utilize all 16 ADAT channels.
Am I overthinking this stuff?
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 4, 2021 21:40:16 GMT -6
Oh, and to whom it may concern: Don't be afraid to lean heavily on the presets. There are a LOT of them, especially if you download bManic's extra preset pack (free). Unisum is so versatile with so many controls (esp. for the sidechain detector), that it really is OK to follow those who have spent weeks and months understanding it. Where do I download the presets from?
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 4, 2021 9:25:34 GMT -6
Just seems like a no-brainer, that if I can swing a Dangerous DA and AD, why wouldn’t a person with my setup just go all Lynx Aurora (n)?
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 4, 2021 8:42:10 GMT -6
Anyone ever have the luxury of comparing these converters? I’ve got a Dangerous Convert DA with a Motu 828ES/16a combo. Was toying with the idea of picking up a Dangerous AD+, thinking that the clock might improve the Motu stuff, as well as using the AD+ for tracking and 2-buss capture.
BUT, for the money into the Dangerous pieces alone, I could get 24 channels of Lynx Aurora (n) conversion.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 1, 2021 10:24:14 GMT -6
I was hoping to check out the 20’s eventually, but not at $7k.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 1, 2021 9:32:18 GMT -6
Josh, since you're here, can I ask about my SA670? I paid my final invoice in full on February 2. On March 18, I emailed Andreina to ask about the status, and she told me it would ship next week. I understand you are on a 30 day lockdown again, but I was invoiced 2 months ago.
Anyways, I'd appreciate if you could look into for me! And I have no plans to flip it on Reverb either! Yes sir Kindly DM me your PayPal email and I will have a look for you and contact Andreina or email me please (stamaudio@gmail.com) Apologies for the hold up. We have the last ones leaving next Friday for the paid ones so I am sure you are within those. Lockdown sucks but we can ship once a week which is better than nothing You are awesome! Thanks Josh!
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 1, 2021 9:21:52 GMT -6
Funny. I just checked now. There is 1 listed by a dealer in Belgium and it's 1500 dollars cheaper than the unfairman. Any I've seen have been from shops. There are a couple listed on ebay in ebay germany as new by one guy. I'm not sure I would even trust that but he may be a shop.
He is a shop. We have distribution in Germany, UK and Spain as well as G4M which covers all of the EU and they list on eBay and reverb through their re-sellers. Josh, since you're here, can I ask about my SA670? I paid my final invoice in full on February 2. On March 18, I emailed Andreina to ask about the status, and she told me it would ship next week. I understand you are on a 30 day lockdown again, but I was invoiced 2 months ago.
Anyways, I'd appreciate if you could look into for me! And I have no plans to flip it on Reverb either!
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 1, 2021 6:18:51 GMT -6
I’ve seen a bunch on Reverb. There’s 4 up there now. I think if the seller doesn’t ship to your country, then they won’t show up in your search.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 31, 2021 18:38:11 GMT -6
The question I have, is will these prices go back down? Take UAD for example. They raised their prices by like what, 4-500 dollars? And if people are still buying these up, why would they be motivated to decrease their prices?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 26, 2021 15:10:56 GMT -6
It is...I should have specified. Sorry! I'd start at the console. Dirty pot/fader or bad connection.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 26, 2021 14:56:47 GMT -6
This is a tom mic?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 26, 2021 14:56:27 GMT -6
Kinda sounds like a dirty pot to me.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 23, 2021 16:34:54 GMT -6
For the past 4 years, I have been slowly selecting and acquiring the right mics + hardware preamps, 20-some channels of hardware compressors, and 29 channels of hardware EQs, including 48 channels of hardware summing (Rupert Neve 5059 + Heritage Audio MCM-32). This thread is reminding me of that time I accidentally turned the wrong way on a One Way street. 🤔 (“Hey, why’s everyone going the other direction?” 🤣) Dude, I’m right there with you. I’ve built up a nice HW collection of choice pieces over the years. Here I am, obsessing over whether or not I should sell it all, put the $ in the stock market and get an X6. Is this my mid-life crises?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 23, 2021 12:53:44 GMT -6
Four Roses Single Barrel is a high rye bourbon similar to Bulleit, but with about 10% more rye. Really good bang for the buck. I've been drinking Four Roses Small Batch lately.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 21, 2021 12:10:20 GMT -6
Hey wiz, why the Apollo if all you’re doing is using it to have a little reverb on the vocal. You’re not tracking through plugins, right? Or using Luna?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 18, 2021 18:20:38 GMT -6
The consensus between the DA of these two interfaces seems to suggest they are comparable. What about the AD?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 14, 2021 19:13:09 GMT -6
That’s another thing you can’t overlook about the Motu stuff, all the monitor controlling options! A/B speaker selection, talkback, mono, etc.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 13, 2021 19:53:54 GMT -6
Right. I think that’s what I said as well. 16+4 total. Ah, sorry, I reread your post... thanks, all clear now. And yes that might be the perfect combination for me. Combined with my 11 outboard preamps, that would give me enough mic inputs. If not, I could combine the 828es and 828pre-es for a few hundred more $. The 16A is not really an option, due to it's higher price and the fact I don't need all those extra mic preamps. Again, thanks for these tips, it's great to know somebody that has gone the MOTU route with good results. Not sure how soon I'll need to follow - it depends on how long my Tascam DM-3200 driver stays compatible with my Mac Pro (2013) as I transition to Mac OS Catalina, then Big Sur eventually. Same holds true for potentially upgrading to an Apple M2 silicon machine (hoping Apple announces later this year an M2-based Mini with more RAM, and/or an 'affordable' new Mac Pro). FYI, the 16a doesn’t have any mic preamps.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 13, 2021 18:51:49 GMT -6
You can totally combine two 828ES's. You would get a total of 16 AD/DA I/O, plus 4 mic pre AD ins, plus all the digital I/O, and stereo outs on each and 4 x headphones. You see, it's really hard to deny the flexibility of the Motu ES interfaces at the prices they sell for. Dag. That's good to know. But I thought the 828es had 2 mic/line inputs plus 8 TRS line inputs = 10 inputs, so combining two 828es = 20 inputs (4 mic, 16 line), no? I looked in the manual, and the example screen capture of the mixer matrix shows the two mic inputs and 8 additional analog inputs as separately assignable channels. Or are saying, like the Apollo, the 2 mic inputs and 2 of the TRS line inputs are sharing the same A/D channels? Right. I think that’s what I said as well. 16+4 total.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 13, 2021 16:41:20 GMT -6
I have the same requirements, and I landed on a Motu 16a/828ES combo. Picked both up used and have a total of 1725 into the combo. I have a nice selection of outboard pre's, so I don't really need the interface pre's on the 828ES, but they are decent enough, I guess. Get a four banger like a Sebatron or build some CAPI's or an Access 312, or...there's so many choices these days. A couple of things to note. The Apollo 8p is not a 16 input device. It's 8 mic/line/DI OR 8 line ins, not both. If you need 16 channels of AD, then you'll need the X16. The Motu 16a doesn't have a main stereo out, so you'll burn two channels on monitoring, unless you have a dedicated monitoring DA that you can input via digital. I think the X16 does have a dedicated stereo DA. UAD likes to brag about the X16 having superior DA, but it's really only on the main outs. The line outs have the same DA as the others. I have considered a Lynx Aurora (N), but they are expensive. I just don't know if it's going to be THAT much better than the Motu stuff. And whenever someone says something 'blows it out of the water' (no offense Dan), I usually take that hyperbole with a grain of salt. It could very well be true, but one persons 'blows it out of the water' could be another persons 'minuscule difference'. The general rule of thumb these days is conversion is all good once you get away from the rock bottom cheap stuff. This sounds like a good option for me also. Even combining an 828pre-es with an 828es (which I assume is possible?) would work as it would give me total 10 mic/line + 8 line inputs. You can totally combine two 828ES's. You would get a total of 16 AD/DA I/O, plus 4 mic pre AD ins, plus all the digital I/O, and stereo outs on each and 4 x headphones. You see, it's really hard to deny the flexibility of the Motu ES interfaces at the prices they sell for. Dag.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 13, 2021 8:34:25 GMT -6
I just wish the Lynx offered a bit more in terms of I/O. Why not at least throw an ADAT or SPDIF in there? Stereo main outs woulda been nice. The Motu offers so much in terms of connectivity. There’s even midi I/O on the 828ES!
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 13, 2021 7:20:19 GMT -6
Never used motu, have had all 3 Apollo’s 8, including bla mod, b2, 2192, rme and symphony mkii, now have the Lynx Aurora n. You definitely hear the difference in detail, linearity, soundstage and depth. Considering, all the money spent elsewhere, the more expensive arguments seems a false economy to me now. Lynx has a demo policy listedin its website, I’d really encourage you to utilize that. The Lynx tb2 drivers are solid, tb3 for m1 big Sur macs still in beta, hardware seems to work fine, it’s GUI, ncontrol , seems a little glitchy still. Didn’t you just switch from a Symphony to an X Apollo not too long ago? Didn’t know you switched to a Lynx. Expensive in Canada?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 12, 2021 13:57:54 GMT -6
Anyone ever do the 50% off thing where you post a song you mixed with a Goodhertz plug? I doubt there's time left to do it now, seeing how it's late on a Friday afternoon. But man, that 50% can be stacked with the current sale.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 12, 2021 7:35:35 GMT -6
I was laying in bed the other night listening to the high hiss in my ears, regretting all the stupid things I did in my youth that I thought was so rock 'n roll at the time. Being right up front with Soundgarden at Lollapalooza, right next to the giant speakers. I couldn't hear for days after that, but I wore it like a badge of honor. So dumb.
All those band practices with Fender amps laser beamed right at my ears. And the cymbals. So dumb.
And all those shitty gigs where we were cranked up so loud that I couldn't hear vocals, so I stood closer to the mains. So. Dumb.
I wish I could take it all back. Here I am at 42. Wonder how bad it'll be at 62...or 82?
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