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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 2, 2024 14:35:06 GMT -6
This is a hell of a mic. I've been crazy working on a session vocal for a client, so I haven't had time to really run it through it's paces, but played with it a little bit. I've enjoyed the 269 mode so much that I recorded some layered choir vocals with it for the track I'm working on currently. It's not as airy and open as the RMS269 was, but it's still really present, while not being harsh. It's like a U87 on steroids.
Listening to samples I have of U67s and 269s I've recorded with at other sessions I can't say that it is a dead ringer for the ones I've used, but it is just a fantastic mic no matter how perfectly is sounds like any particular U67 or M269. I think my modded MK67 is a touch closer sonically to the the U67 I used at Barbershop Studios. The RMS269 had more air than the M269C I used there, and the B269 has a touch less air than the M269C. None the less, I'm really enjoying it. Hopefully I'll have some more time once I'm done with this session vocal job.
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 1, 2024 13:51:25 GMT -6
£500 is a good price on them.
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 1, 2024 10:11:19 GMT -6
I liked mine when I had it. It sounds and works nicely, but is missing some of the functionality of the full SSL EQ. The limiter's functions are limited and unfortunately the meter does not allow you to see the gain reduction. I wish you could turn VHD off as well, but you can only manage how hard it hits. Still, I found it fairly easy to dial in a good sound whether going for 2nd or 3rd style harmonics. I had wanted to get a second one to make it a pair, but I eventually sold it and bought 500 series channel strips by Link Audio instead which I feel are much better. If you are savvy, you can build them yourself, or if you are like me you can just order them assembled. I went with: (2) Link Audio SL4K-E01 which are SSL 4K series style preamps. They also have a space for a colour module, which I took advantage of by adding a Royal Blue (Neve 1081) module. Using the colour module is where you can have that VHD style functionality allowing for some extra harmonics on what is essentially a fairly clean preamp. They also have other SSL style preamps including other variations of the 4K and a 9K style: www.linkaudiodesign.de/product-page/sl4k-e01(2) SLQ51X Brown EQs. They also have Black EQs if you prefer them. They have the full SSL eq functionality and a build in fixed low pass & high pass filter. You can adjust where those filters are. I had them set the low pass at 70hz and left the high cut at 8K. They have a 12 db slope. The fully adjustable low pass and high cut with the 6db slope is on the preamp: www.linkaudiodesign.de/product-page/slq51x-brownWhen I build the channel strips I picked up (2) second hand SSL 611DYN modules, because Link Audio didn't make the dynamics module at the time. They do now. If I were doing it again, I would just get theirs: www.linkaudiodesign.de/product-page/dyn-xAnyway, if you find a great deal on the XLogic Alpha Channel then its a solid piece. If you're planning to get one, there are better options. Not trying to sound like an advertisement for Link, but just sharing my personal experience. I love the SSL sound when I'm mixing. It adds a little sheen, and the EQ and Comp are great tools.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 30, 2024 14:27:24 GMT -6
Excited at the prospect of mics recreation. Important to understand just how many hours days months etc wave and tskguy put into research development and refinement into the ELAH251! It’s incredible. I’ve had my B67-269 V2 for a week, and it really is a fantastic mic. So I’m also very excited to see what Ben does with his, especially if it’s at a better price point than some of the others. The Heiserman or the FleA are totally dream mics. I just don’t have the cash for either of them. lol.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 26, 2024 4:57:23 GMT -6
I'm usually about 2ft back, which I was in this instance. The M49C was in the middle with the U67 and M269 to the left side next to each other and the MK67 to the right of the M49C. Hey I just received My Max Kircher 67. it doesn’t sound as good as yours! is your a completely dry signal? Yes, in the clip I posted from Barbershop studio there was no EQ, compression, or reverb. Barbershop is a converted church though, so the sound is a bit live. I did have a Silver Telefunken EF86 in it. So it was not the stock tube Max provided. Later down the road I swapped Max’ BV12 transformer for a Neumann BV12, but the Neumann BV12 has been come harder to track down these days. That made the kit very close to the real deal.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 24, 2024 7:28:06 GMT -6
I’ve been a little crazy and only had time to run a quick test with the B67-269 V2. I took a quick listen in modern 67 mode, before switching it over to modern 269 mode. In 67 mode it extends a bit more on the bottom end than my modded MK67 does. I need to do some more testing with it and really look forward to hearing Emily on it. I’ve been planning for a new rock session vocal. Having used an M269C on a session and having owned the RMS269 for a year or so, I know that the 269 sound is great for that style. So I did a quick take of the verse of the song as a test, and was immediately impressed. It’s open on top, and full sounding. It certainly has the quality I was looking for in a 269. I don’t know if it is going to replace my MK 67, but I’m not disappointed I picked up this mic. It sounds wonderful. Plus, it gives me the option of having my U87ai and a 67 out at the same time. After using the WA67 a couple of weeks ago, I knew this would be a better decision. I love that I have both a 269 and 67 options in one mic. There will be some more testing and I will share some clips. On another note, the larger body, Neumannesc color scheme, and nice carrying case are really nice upgrades from the V1. I also prefer the new modern modes sonically. It’s more along the lines of what I was expecting. Again, more testing to follow, but I wanted to give a huge shout out to mics for taking the input he got from some of us on the V1, and delivered the V2 to address them. That is a step above expectations.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 23, 2024 7:23:31 GMT -6
Anyone tried the ADK Munich-7-T T FET Microphone ? Not yet, but I’d love to try one. My experiences with the 251, 49, and 67 are very positive. The 67 is a great all rounder. More mellow than an U87.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 22, 2024 12:23:25 GMT -6
Almost any of the ADK T-FET series can be grabbed for $500 during a sale. I think the 67T and 49T are really good mics. The 251 T is also very nice, but maybe more specific. I think the T67 would be my choice in this scenario. Agreed.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 22, 2024 5:37:43 GMT -6
Almost any of the ADK T-FET series can be grabbed for $500 during a sale. I think the 67T and 49T are really good mics. The 251 T is also very nice, but maybe more specific.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 21, 2024 3:59:01 GMT -6
I’ve been curious about this piece as well. I’d love to hear it next to an AMS or BAE unit.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 20, 2024 5:06:54 GMT -6
I would try the KSM 32, Cascade X-15, Gefell M-930, and 57 if those don’t work. My friend Giulio is a multi instrumentalist and particularly a brass player. He uses the KSM 32 into an API preamp for everything. You may just have to play with mic positioning.
The 57 will almost certainly work, but may not be the sound you’re after. The M-930 would be one I would try. It could be really nice. I had the KSM44 for years. As a room mic it would be nice, but I’m not sure how it will fair as a spot mic. It might be a touch bright.
I have had good luck with a Blue Woodpecker Ribbon into a Demeter VTMP, FleA 49 into a my stock Apollo preamp was nice.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 16, 2024 20:04:59 GMT -6
I really enjoyed the original version, but I’m very much looking forward to hearing the modern modes that were added.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 15, 2024 18:58:52 GMT -6
I caved. 12 months no interest from VK. So I should have mine sometime next week. Anyone wanna buy a WA67?
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 10, 2024 20:55:48 GMT -6
Very cool is this a 3 slot unit?
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 7, 2024 6:49:24 GMT -6
Good to know.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 6, 2024 5:09:28 GMT -6
opr is the gain level the same as a real U67?
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 5, 2024 21:21:51 GMT -6
How is the new yoke mount design for the M49V? I believe it was redesigned to handle rumble better than the old design and was curious if anyone could comment on it. I've been having some issues with my FleAs in my new space. I don't really want to drop $500 on a Neumann yoke mount, but I'm curious if the new one would solve the issue. My old studio had a slab floor with carpeting. The new one has a wood based subfloor with carpeting. Every time I move the mic rumbles. SMH. Only happens with my FleA in its yoke mount. I grabbed a Cloud U1 mount, which works great as far as the rumble. It fits ok. The jewel on the front and FleA logo make it so it can't face the front on the mount, and has to be a little off center, but it's working for now. http://instagram.com/p/C4HJHa2PMQi I doubt any of the yoke mounts will offer much help for rumbles. AMI sells this shock mount for M49's. It looks the same, and likely is the same as the one I got from Studio 939 which also included the M49 style body. It works great, not sure if it would interfere with the jewel. www.tab-funkenwerk.org/product/m49sm-spider-shock-mount/The guys at Tab told me it wouldn’t fit a real M49, or an accurate clone like my FleA.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 5, 2024 13:12:59 GMT -6
It sounds nice. 1 seems to have a bit more detail, but that is probably, because 2 seems to have a little more low mid info. On cheaper speakers 1 sounded very bright, but on my monitors its just more clarity I'm hearing. Guessing, I could kind of guess either way. I've heard clones that skewed a bit brighter than the mark and clones like that skewed a bit darker. Right now I think 2 is the U67. Looking forward to the reveal.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 5, 2024 13:05:16 GMT -6
How is the new yoke mount design for the M49V? I believe it was redesigned to handle rumble better than the old design and was curious if anyone could comment on it. I've been having some issues with my FleAs in my new space. I don't really want to drop $500 on a Neumann yoke mount, but I'm curious if the new one would solve the issue. My old studio had a slab floor with carpeting. The new one has a wood based subfloor with carpeting. Every time I move the mic rumbles. SMH. Only happens with my FleA in its yoke mount. I grabbed a Cloud U1 mount, which works great as far as the rumble. It fits ok. The jewel on the front and FleA logo make it so it can't face the front on the mount, and has to be a little off center, but it's working for now. http://instagram.com/p/C4HJHa2PMQi
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 23, 2024 6:10:43 GMT -6
I’d love to hear it. I agree with kcatthedog, send one to seawell or myself and let us test it and make a video. I’ve been looking for good 67 clone to have around.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 21, 2024 10:33:03 GMT -6
I found this wife my wife’s voice and our FleA 49. I like using our 1272 with the 49 on her. It wasn’t as peaky as the 1073 can be sometimes. What 1272 interpretation are you referring to as 1272 never was a mic pre. Would be interesting to hear your input on the two mentioned compared and exactly which 73 and 72’s are involved. I have a Dan Alexander Dual Class A preamp. It has original transformers and replacement boards. It can be a little thick on my voice sometimes, but has worked on Emily with the 49. I actually ended up switching her to the U67 these days. Still solidifying her preamp though. Now that the studio is nearly back together I need to have her shoot out some preamps.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 20, 2024 20:48:49 GMT -6
I found this on my wife’s voice and our FleA 49. I like using our 1272 with the 49 on her. It wasn’t as peaky as the 1073 can be sometimes.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 8, 2024 9:00:29 GMT -6
I did a whole shootout between a FleA 47 with the F7 and my FleA 49 with the F47/49. That FleA 49 is the one with the lighter low end. Sincere thanks again for sharing and for the info...I remember that one from quite awhile ago. Watching it again confirms what i love about the 49-type, and I appreciate your end notes as well; I'm in a similar place where the F47 suits my voice better than the M7 probably, but it's hard not to love what the M7 does. I also hear something amazing in the AC701k...amazing enough that I'd consider shelling out for it, but then again I really really love the mic I have. Again, very sincere thanks! I went down the AC701 rabbit hole a couple of years ago. It adds something gorgeous. I did eventually grab a lead on them, but they were hard to track down. After tracking them down, I kind of let it go. I figured there are some vintage M49s out there that deserve them. I'd love to try the new M49V, which uses the same tube as the FleA, the 6S2B. One day maybe. I can't justify it when I love the way my FleA 49 sounds on me, especially the one with the lighter low end.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 7, 2024 6:01:38 GMT -6
So Net Net Bottom Line... Are the M49's (Including/probably all Incarnations)... A mellower 47/48? Even more than the M7 capsuled 47/48 versions? I don't want anyone to fall asleep hearing my somewhat soothing (sometimes) almost Sominex tones. LOL! Thanks, Chris I had a Flea 47 with the M7 capsule for about 6 months, and the Flea 49 (with K47 capsule)...much more pronounced low mids..."richness" I suppose...but also overall sounds a little more saturated and harmonic to me, but I'm not sure if I'd think so if I had them side by side. Get into those Sominex tones! I did a whole shootout between a FleA 47 with the F7 and my FleA 49 with the F47/49. That FleA 49 is the one with the lighter low end.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 7, 2024 5:58:47 GMT -6
Here are those clips. These are not scientific, but I'll share them anyway. FleA 49 with the F7/AC701k and the FleA 249 with the F49/6S2B were both recorded at Callistro Music one after the other, with an ultra clean preamp I can't remember the name of, the FleA 49 with the F49/6S2B was recorded at my place through my stock Apollo Silverface preamps (I can't remember if this is mine or the Vintage King demo I tried), and the M49C which has a K47 was recorded at Barbershop Studios through an SSL preamp.
FleA 249 - F7 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
FleA 49 - F7 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
FleA 49 - F49 Capsule, 6S2B Tube:
Neumann M49C - K47 Capsule, AC701K Tube:
Wow, this is really interesting, thank you. Do you know if there's a FleA F49 capsule in addition to the FleA F47 capsule? I believe they just call it the F47, but it’s a K49 capsule, meaning both sides are matched.
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