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Post by Johnkenn on May 20, 2019 19:39:52 GMT -6
Much? I honestly had forgotten I had the UAD version. Used to put it on drumbus...but I need to dive in again and relearn this thing.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 20, 2019 20:14:59 GMT -6
Funny I was just thinking on this. I used the UAD version on one track of my album. It was my only "in the box" recording. It sounded like whatever track I put it on was run through a Fender Bandmaster, and I haven't looked at it since, which is around 4 years now I guess.
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Post by ragan on May 20, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -6
I really liked that plug and always wanted to try the hardware. I just really like Dave Derr’s design vibe. I’ll get another pair of Distressors down the road. Maybe a Fatso too.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 20, 2019 20:20:24 GMT -6
I'd gladly trade my Fatso for the Distressor if only UAD allowed..
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Post by spock on May 20, 2019 20:27:06 GMT -6
Dave Derr makes great stuff. I had a Fatso for years, the purpose was to add tape machine transformer harmonics & saturation, it could do a couple other things as I remember too. It was a very cool unit to “variably” dirty up the mix bus and give that analog impression.
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Post by ericn on May 20, 2019 20:33:56 GMT -6
Dave Derr makes great stuff. I had a Fatso for years, the purpose was to add tape machine transformer harmonics & saturation, it could do a couple other things as I remember too. It was a very cool unit to “variably” dirty up the mix bus and give that analog impression. It gives a nice tape like vibe, but if you know and grew up with tape you won’t ever say it sounds like tape. Very pleasing maybe a bit heavy on the compression compared to tape but a fun vibe box. |
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Post by seawell on May 20, 2019 22:36:11 GMT -6
The warmth circuit can really come in handy for overly bright overheads or acoustic guitars. I’ll also drive it pretty hard on an electric guitar or bass when I’m looking for a different saturation flavor than decapitator, etc... I had the hardware unit for years. It was great to track through to give warmth but was real easy to overdo it.
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Post by drsax on May 21, 2019 6:15:34 GMT -6
I use the UAD plugin frequently. Especially love it on electric guitar
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Post by Guitar on May 21, 2019 6:45:41 GMT -6
Don't forget to audition Arousor if you haven't. It's got a great saturation knob. You need an iLok to demo though.
I have an Empirical Labs mouse pad. Dave is a super helpful human being and incredibly detail oriented about his products.
I haven't tried Fatso yet.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 21, 2019 7:01:01 GMT -6
Don't forget to audition Arousor if you haven't. It's got a great saturation knob. You need an iLok to demo though. I have an Empirical Labs mouse pad. Dave is a super helpful human being and incredibly detail oriented about his products. I haven't tried Fatso yet. This one? 😂😂  |
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Post by Guitar on May 21, 2019 7:09:52 GMT -6
Yes! Now I don't feel so special.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 8:00:10 GMT -6
wow that mouse mat is cool... jealous of you guys..
i used the fatso last week on parallel Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer and the snare track.
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Post by thirdeye on May 21, 2019 8:11:31 GMT -6
I use the hardware almost every tracking and mixing session. Usually on room mics for tracking, varies for mixing-tamed a very bright violin once. I've run one channel into the other for a cool effect as well. The key to the fatso in my opinion is to insert some sort of an attenuator into the sidechain to control the compression threshold. It's the only way to hit the saturation properly. I've never tried the software.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 21, 2019 10:41:19 GMT -6
Yeah the warmth will tame the top nicely...
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Post by nudwig on May 21, 2019 11:33:59 GMT -6
It's been a long time since I played with it but the UBK Fatso had some fun compression.
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Post by ardis on May 21, 2019 12:42:50 GMT -6
Still use UBK-1 not sure if it's a real Fatso but is very vibey.....
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Post by schmalzy on May 22, 2019 3:40:16 GMT -6
The key to the fatso in my opinion is to insert some sort of an attenuator into the sidechain to control the compression threshold. It's the only way to hit the saturation properly. That's what Greg from Kush Audio also recommends. A quick couple of passages and one longer explanation from the manual for his UBK Fatso mod of the Empirical Labs Fatso (you can read the whole UBK-modded Fatso manual here: www.wavedistribution.com/manuals/wave_ubkfatso_manual.pdf ): "By default, the saturation circuit and the compressor section act as one. More input = more saturation = more compression. But you can control the sat circuit independent of the comp by inserting a simple gain control in the UBK Fatso’s rear-panel Insert jack." "If you simply operate the UBK Fatso in its default mode, you cannot separate the degree of saturation it produces from the amount of compression it generates. More of one always produces more of the other, and vice versa. However, if you avail yourself of the Insert on the rear panel, you will gain independent control over the sat and comp circuits, and it is no exaggeration to say that when you do, this piece of hardware becomes an entirely new animal." –– "I alluded to this earlier in the manual, and now I’m gonna do my best to drill it into your skull: you really, *really* need to insert a gain changing device into the UBK Fatso’s rear panel Insert, one on each channel. This effectively gives you a threshold control: turn the insert volume up, and you get more compression, and turn the volume down and you get less compression. Why is this so important? Because it allows you to control the amount of saturation and distortion you exert on the signal independently of how much you compress it. As soon as you play with this kind of setup, you will understand why I’m stressing it. Saturation is, in my opinion, at the heart of the sound of analog tape and all those records whose sound you love. I’m all about less compression and more saturation, because saturation is such a more natural, soft, unobtrusive, and ‘round’ sounding phenomenon. It adds color, drive, presence, and girth to signals without drawing any attention to the fact that anything was done. As a first stage to compression, it means the compressor needs to work less hard because the initial transient is already softened. It also means you’re compressing a richer, rounder source, which to my ears generally leads to a more euphonic end result. So grab an old preamp, or guitar pedal, or anything that has a level up and down control, and put it to good use. It’ll change your life, I’m not kidding." –– I was just using the UBK-1 compressor plugin today (which is apparently a not-bound-by-limitations-of-physical-circuitry nod to the modded and non-modded Fatso) and I'm again reminded of why I like that thing so much and why I keep going to back to thinking about grabbing a hardware piece. I don't know why I don't use it more! I go back to it every couple of projects and I'm always excited about what it does. But then I forget about it for a while after that project. I suppose varying my processing up project-to-project doesn't hurt anything! |
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