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Post by stormymondays on Mar 27, 2019 14:36:24 GMT -6
This is well done and worth watching!
Singer-songwriter recorded using U67, M149, U87, MK4, SM57. Even the humble 57 makes a great showing, althought it clearly stands out as a different beast.
I have listened at home through small hifi speakers, I need to listen at the studio, but I'd be happy to make a record with either, and the differences (SM57 excepted) are a LOT more subtle than I thought.
After watching this video, the next time I get a singer-songwriter I will try to do a one mic performance, before trying to mic the acoustic guitar separately. Of course you need a great performer that can balance himself.
EDIT: Correct video here!!!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 27, 2019 14:47:34 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 27, 2019 15:49:32 GMT -6
Couldn’t understand a word until he started singing.
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Post by donr on Mar 27, 2019 16:16:49 GMT -6
Gotta say, I like that SM57.
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 28, 2019 9:53:25 GMT -6
Gotta say, I like that SM57. It’s surprisingly good, isn’t it? |
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Post by Mister Chase on Mar 28, 2019 11:16:04 GMT -6
Gotta say, I like that SM57. I really like mine with the Crimson audio orange transformer. |
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Post by iamasound on Mar 30, 2019 0:43:09 GMT -6
Couldn’t understand a word until he started singing. Es macht keinen Unterschied. Die Mikrofone sprechen für sich (It makes no difference. The microphones speak for themselves). |
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 30, 2019 2:42:51 GMT -6
Couldn’t understand a word until he started singing. The video I linked was overdubbed to English... Edit: there’s no link in my post now? Might be a mobile only thing? |
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Post by theshea on Mar 30, 2019 4:09:01 GMT -6
on it's own, the sm57 is not so bad. but compared to the neumanns and the schoeps it's far behind for my taste. i wouldn't have a problem recording a singer-songwriter with no matter what neumann, they all sound GREAT. the schoeps is very open and more roomey to me, it would depend on the final goal if i'd use it. with the neumanns, you are safe.
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Post by jampa on Mar 30, 2019 4:30:15 GMT -6
When HOFA sent out the newsletter a few days ago they sent me the English version of the video, so they were aware of that situation. I enjoyed the comparison
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 30, 2019 4:39:29 GMT -6
The U67 and the Schoeps CMC5 were my favorites. The M149 was kind of in between. I ‘ve been itching to try the M149 myself. I wasn’t a huge fan of how this was shot though.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 30, 2019 8:26:54 GMT -6
Pretty good shootout. I use my sm58 occasionally for small guitar amps, so I'm all for a 57 or 58, but I didn't think the 57 fared that well. At first it seems pretty good, but later on in the video you can hear it's nasal and a bit shrill. I kinda liked the 87, but all the Neumann's were good. I just got the Stam Audio SA67, and I'm just beginning to get used to the 67's sound. It's not as big as I thought it was.
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Post by ragan on Mar 30, 2019 8:53:51 GMT -6
I liked the 67 then the 87. The 67 sounded particularly nice. I’m a fan of 57s in some of their usual applications but I can’t dig the pinch-everything-into-2k-to-5k thing in a context like this. Just too nasal for me.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 30, 2019 11:09:15 GMT -6
The cuts between mics were a little too fast to really "dig in" with my ears, but most of them sounded fine. I guess I like the U67/87 and schoeps maybe the best.
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Post by hio on Mar 30, 2019 15:46:12 GMT -6
Also, it is amazing what a tad of EQ can do with a 57 and a 58 and mostly subtractive for the nasal with or without the tonsils or adenoids, whatever.
Long story short I do a lot of live recording in my studio and I recently caught a drop dead gorgeous everything with 58s on friggin vocals.
Within a few days I had a Sennheiser e935 and an e945 and ended up with two e945s. Beautiful mics just in case your live vocals are keepers. I rehearse or play live out everyday with them and simply love em and wouldn't hesitate to use them on a song in the studio going in. That good!
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Post by schmalzy on Mar 31, 2019 9:56:27 GMT -6
Also, it is amazing what a tad of EQ can do with a 57 and a 58 and mostly subtractive for the nasal with or without the tonsils or adenoids, whatever. Long story short I do a lot of live recording in my studio and I recently caught a drop dead gorgeous everything with 58s on friggin vocals. Within a few days I had a Sennheiser e935 and an e945 and ended up with two e945s. Beautiful mics just in case your live vocals are keepers. I rehearse or play live out everyday with them and simply love em and wouldn't hesitate to use them on a song in the studio going in. That good! I've also thought those Sennheiser live vocal mics to be pretty useable. A band I work with when they play shows use a few of those mics. I really dig 'em for cutting through in a pleasant (not 2.5kHz) way. |
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Post by javamad on Mar 31, 2019 10:34:26 GMT -6
Very interesting indeed. The 57 surprised a lot of people I think, maybe because of the distance to the performance. I think if you had it up close on the vocal or the acoustic it would be a different story.
The 67 and the Schoeps were two different but nice pictures of the same subject.
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Post by sirthought on Mar 31, 2019 14:04:18 GMT -6
The schoeps seems to have sort of a high end sparkle without the harsh ice pick quality. Not really that different sounding from the others, yet somehow very different.
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