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Post by ericn on Mar 26, 2019 17:51:15 GMT -6
Regardless, I’ve noticed that happening in a lot of threads...I could probably do better at keeping us on topic. Yeah, but then it wouldn’t be as much fun or interesting, now back to our favorite FET vocal LDC, wait what were we talking about🤔
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 26, 2019 18:01:58 GMT -6
While I don’t mind going off topic (as you all can painfully see lol), let’s stick to the V Comp in this thread...since it’s the subject and all. I believe there’s a WT thread - and I’d love to check one out...but I’m sure this kind of stuff frustrates the manufacturers that work so hard to put this stuff out. “Hey, instead of the compressor in this thread, try this one instead...” Fair enough. Sorry for contributing to derailment on the V-Comp thread, John.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 26, 2019 18:03:02 GMT -6
While I don’t mind going off topic (as you all can painfully see lol), let’s stick to the V Comp in this thread...since it’s the subject and all. I believe there’s a WT thread - and I’d love to check one out...but I’m sure this kind of stuff frustrates the manufacturers that work so hard to put this stuff out. “Hey, instead of the compressor in this thread, try this one instead...” Fair enough. Sorry for contributing to derailment on the V-Comp thread, John. Well, it's not a V-Comp thread...
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 26, 2019 20:08:32 GMT -6
Fair enough. Sorry for contributing to derailment on the V-Comp thread, John. Well, it's not a V-Comp thread... But seriously though, that V-comp is pretty great. I’m gonna hang on to it.
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Post by drbill on Mar 26, 2019 21:17:51 GMT -6
Well, it's not a V-Comp thread... But seriously though, that V-comp is pretty great. I’m gonna hang on to it. ^^thumbsup!!! I wanna get in line when they come up again.
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Post by 000 on Mar 26, 2019 21:49:51 GMT -6
Ditto - Weight Tank (x2 here) are absolutely fantastic. Different from my Manley VariMu's but equally awesome. How do you feel the weight tank sounds on busses? I imagine they would sound great on big pop bg vocals - but what about mix bus/parallel bus etc??
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Post by Ward on Mar 27, 2019 6:04:21 GMT -6
Regardless, I’ve noticed that happening in a lot of threads...I could probably do better at keeping us on topic. Yeah, but then it wouldn’t be as much fun or interesting, now back to our favorite FET vocal LDC, wait what were we talking about🤔 Way to derail the Telecaster with Front Humbucker thread, Eric!
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Post by craigmorris74 on Apr 11, 2019 19:36:57 GMT -6
Hi folks, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I'm getting this narrowed down to a handful of choices. I have a big favor to ask. Would any of you run the short attached drum file through your vari-mu, 3 or 4 db compression on the fastest attack and release settings? Sorry in advance, I'm not a drummer! Just me doing my lousy Ringo impression with 1 57 above the kit. This would help me greatly in picking out which comp I want! Thanks, Craig Attachments:Generic Drums.mp3 (222.51 KB)
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Post by the1984studios on Apr 11, 2019 20:34:05 GMT -6
Hi folks, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I'm getting this narrowed down to a handful of choices. I have a big favor to ask. Would any of you run the short attached drum file through your vari-mu, 3 or 4 db compression on the fastest attack and release settings? Sorry in advance, I'm not a drummer! Just me doing my lousy Ringo impression with 1 57 above the kit. This would help me greatly in picking out which comp I want! Thanks, Craig Hey man! I own the AudioScape V-Comp and as far as mu compressors go; I absolutely adore this thing. Attached is a quick clip I did for ya using the V-Comp... Double Mode, Fastest Recovery. DB Reduction meter was hovering below 10dB or so (the original Gates is notorious for showing more GR than is actually happening...) but I simply dialed it in quickly to get that "Beatles-esque" thing going on. GENERIC DRUMS - V-COMP-DBL-FAST.mp3 (790.13 KB) Took about 15 seconds to dial this in. The V wasn't fully warmed up (I like to let it sit for a good 15-20 minutes usually to let all these tubesss warm up and get cookin') but the difference shouldn't be huge. Hope this helps! On a side-note, I could have really SLAMMED this track w/the V but went for a more conservative amount of GR. Even so, you can clearly hear all of the character, tone and mu-iness added with little effort on my part. Hence why I love the V-Comp so much! No personal experience w/the other comps mentioned on your list. I've heard good things about the WT comp, watched the vids, etc. But since receiving the V, I've been absolutely thrilled and floored. It really filled a gap I didn't even realize I had in my outboard compressor selection.. As far as MU comps go, I feel like the V-Comp covers the bases for me there. Tons of different sounds in this monster =D _
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Post by craigmorris74 on Apr 12, 2019 6:15:12 GMT -6
Nice! That does sound nice and thick! I really appreciate taking the time to do that!
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Post by M57 on Aug 5, 2019 5:35:58 GMT -6
Moving a conversation here because I didn't want to derail the Audio-Scape Buss Compressor thread.
I was interested in a Vari-Mu for piano, but I'd like to ask a question with a wider context. How do the various stereo Vari-Mu's stack up on the vibey/colored <--|--> clean/transparent spectrum.
Price doesn't necessarily have to be a consideration for the purposes of the conversation. Maybe just put em in order.. Here are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head in the order I'm guessing they might fall.
Fairchild Manley Vari Mu UnFairchild Stam Manely Nu Mu ES-8 Thermionic Culture Phoenix
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 5, 2019 6:20:57 GMT -6
Moving a conversation here because I didn't want to derail the Audio-Scape Buss Compressor thread. I was interested in a Vari-Mu for piano, but I'd like to ask a question with a wider context. How do the various stereo Vari-Mu's stack up on the vibey/colored <--|--> clean/transparent spectrum. Price doesn't necessarily have to be a consideration for the purposes of the conversation. Maybe just put em in order.. Here are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head in the order I'm guessing they might fall. Fairchild Manley Vari Mu UnFairchild Stam Manely Nu Mu ES-8 Thermionic Culture Phoenix You might consider an IGS Tubecore 3U.
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Post by M57 on Aug 5, 2019 7:01:00 GMT -6
Fairchild Manley Vari Mu UnFairchild Stam Manely Nu Mu ES-8 Thermionic Culture Phoenix You might consider an IGS Tubecore 3U. Nice. How might you order these, and where on the spectrum might the Tubecore fit in?
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Post by M57 on Aug 5, 2019 7:12:37 GMT -6
Fair game are mono compressors that can be linked like the Chandler RS124. So something like the AS V-Comp doesn't fit the criteria. Too bad, because the price would be super competitive.
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Post by guitfiddler on Aug 5, 2019 7:33:40 GMT -6
I want to derail for a second and ask about that Chandler RS124...Anyone care to add some info about that Chandler RS124?
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Post by svart on Aug 5, 2019 7:34:45 GMT -6
I wonder what circuit the weight tank compressor is fashioned after. The guts look suspiciously simple for a vari-mu compressor.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Aug 5, 2019 7:57:04 GMT -6
I eventually went with the IGS Tubcore, by the way. After listening to samples, it had the character (especially attack and relase) that I was looking for. It also can go from clean to very colored by using the input knob. I got it for a hell of a price on Reverb. There really are a lot of great vari-mus out there now!
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Post by Ward on Aug 5, 2019 8:02:32 GMT -6
Fair game are mono compressors that can be linked like the Chandler RS124. So something like the AS V-Comp doesn't fit the criteria. Too bad, because the price would be super competitive. After having my audioscape V-Comp for a week or so now . . . I have to say that it unequivocally answers ALL my vari-mu needs and I have no regrets about selling my Manley Vari-Mu! It really is THAT good! And what a bargain too!!
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Post by M57 on Aug 5, 2019 8:14:17 GMT -6
Fair game are mono compressors that can be linked like the Chandler RS124. So something like the AS V-Comp doesn't fit the criteria. Too bad, because the price would be super competitive. After having my audioscape V-Comp for a week or so now . . . I have to say that it unequivocally answers ALL my vari-mu needs and I have no regrets about selling my Manley Vari-Mu! It really is THAT good! And what a bargain too!! Yeah, everyone is raving about it, but they're not linkable. If I'm going to spend that much money on two channels of compression, I'd like to be able to use them on a stereo buss. Apparently that's not a problem for you?
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Post by drbill on Aug 5, 2019 9:41:24 GMT -6
Fair game are mono compressors that can be linked like the Chandler RS124. So something like the AS V-Comp doesn't fit the criteria. Too bad, because the price would be super competitive. After having my audioscape V-Comp for a week or so now . . . I have to say that it unequivocally answers ALL my vari-mu needs and I have no regrets about selling my Manley Vari-Mu! It really is THAT good! And what a bargain too!! I love my V-Comp too Ward....but I can't see selling the Vari-Mu - or my Weight Tanks. Apples and Oranges to me.
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Post by Ward on Aug 5, 2019 11:31:45 GMT -6
After having my audioscape V-Comp for a week or so now . . . I have to say that it unequivocally answers ALL my vari-mu needs and I have no regrets about selling my Manley Vari-Mu! It really is THAT good! And what a bargain too!! I love my V-Comp too Ward....but I can't see selling the Vari-Mu - or my Weight Tanks. Apples and Oranges to me. Well, that's alright then! I just wasn't using my Manley Vari-Mu at all . . . and the V-Comp does what I need better. Apples and Oranges, is definitely a good way to describe it. What are your favorite applications for the Manley?
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Post by audioscape on Aug 5, 2019 12:15:56 GMT -6
After having my audioscape V-Comp for a week or so now . . . I have to say that it unequivocally answers ALL my vari-mu needs and I have no regrets about selling my Manley Vari-Mu! It really is THAT good! And what a bargain too!! Yeah, everyone is raving about it, but they're not linkable. If I'm going to spend that much money on two channels of compression, I'd like to be able to use them on a stereo buss. Apparently that's not a problem for you? The Weight Tank WT-COMP is definitely a great compressor and we love Eric over at Locomotive/Weight Tank. Super down-to-earth guy who makes AMAZING products; the WT-COMP and the V are definitely on two different spectrums of the whole "vari-mu" thing. Apples and Oranges and drBill said! Thanks for all the kind words y'all! We (and our customers) have had great success using the V-COMP in dual mono on stereo busses. While you may not be able to LINK the sidechains together to get equal compressor on both L/R, we ourselves almost always prefer our compression unlinked. It's a "bigger" and more interesting sound to us. When buying a pair, they track surprisingly close and I use a pair on 2BUSS quite a bit in "OFF" mode of "SINGLE" mode, just tickling the meter. Adds a ton of heft, width, color and a nice gooey flavor. The V-COMP circuit is a tough one to add a stereo link option to, mostly as a result of it's very rudimentary circuitry. Afterall, it's circuit dates back to the mid 1950's! We personally wouldn't take the V-COMP out of the running due to the lack of a link option. HOWEVER, it all depends on how you are looking to use it and what you want to get out of it. Pitting say, the Manley Vari-MU against the V-COMP isn't quite fair as the Manley is MUCH cleaner in our experience. It does the effortless, huge, weighty v-mu thing like a dream and is great for stereo work whereas the V-COMP is a total tone machine through and through. Just FWIW, agan, different strokes for different folks!
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Post by Ward on Aug 5, 2019 12:20:48 GMT -6
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Post by M57 on Aug 5, 2019 12:55:13 GMT -6
Pitting say, the Manley Vari-MU against the V-COMP isn't quite fair as the Manley is MUCH cleaner in our experience. It does the effortless, huge, weighty v-mu thing like a dream and is great for stereo work whereas the V-COMP is a total tone machine through and through. Thank you for the great, informative post. I have your Buss Comp so firmly parked on my 2-buss that I haven't even experimented with it on my piano, so I guess I'll have to do that. I do have a question about the above paragraph. Everything I read suggests that the Manley has a colored sound (i.e, it's not particularly clean). So when you say the Manley is "much cleaner," is it fair to say that the V-COMP imparts a distinct and obvious vibe to any track it's put on?
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Post by Chad on Aug 5, 2019 12:55:27 GMT -6
I LOVE my IGS Audio TUBECORE 3U Mastering Edition. Covers a TON of territory with swappable flavors of tubes (including 6386).
Chad
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