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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2019 13:40:56 GMT -6
Seems like out of the ashes of "old school" AKG, this new company was formed. I wonder if they will be like how Bricasti Designs, are to Lexicon?
They're expected to release two new microphones, in early April. Looks interesting...
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Post by sirthought on Mar 2, 2019 13:52:21 GMT -6
Isn't Lewitt also former AKG people? I haven't had an opportunity to use either companies' products.
If Austrian is all AKG design know-how, then it's likely a safe bet.
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Post by ericn on Mar 2, 2019 15:29:08 GMT -6
It’s going to come down to their capsules. Do remember there were not that many left at AKG from the glory days.
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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2019 15:34:34 GMT -6
Excellent points guys. I did have Lewitt, in the back of my mind. IMHO I'd put their 400/500/600 etc. in the "spirit of classic AKG" (414).
Chris
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Post by svart on Mar 2, 2019 18:12:17 GMT -6
I thought akg 2.0 was lewitt mics?
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Post by chessparov on Mar 2, 2019 18:56:30 GMT -6
(best Don Adams/Agent 86 voice)...
"Would you believe" 2.5 then?
Chris
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Post by Guitar on Mar 3, 2019 8:53:34 GMT -6
Their website doesn't say anything about microphones..?
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Post by chessparov on Mar 3, 2019 13:50:43 GMT -6
There are some threads at GS, including "AKG's Austria Operation" in the main forum, that have some more information.
Chris
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Post by brenta on Mar 3, 2019 14:40:25 GMT -6
Seems like some of the laid-off AKG employees started Lewitt, and some started Austrian Audio. Hopefully all of them were able to find a job somewhere.
Austrian Audio has more information on their Facebook page than they do on their website. Looks like they are about to release two new microphones, the OC-18 and OC-818. Looks like they are the same transformerless design but OC-18 is cardioid only and OC-818 is multi-pattern. They have edge terminated capsules made by "Senior Capsule Builder Monika," and from what I gather from their posts she had been making capsules for AKG since 1996. Not 414 clones but will be new and different, and engineered and made in Austria unlike anything AKG/Samsung makes now.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 3, 2019 14:45:35 GMT -6
I looked on the Facebook page and saw something that looked like a CK12, caught my interest certainly.
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Post by brenta on Mar 3, 2019 14:49:14 GMT -6
Oh, and the capsules are going to use "patent-applied-for ceramic diaphragm suspension rings." They are releasing these mics and some headphones April 2nd at Musikmesse.
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Post by svart on Mar 4, 2019 10:21:09 GMT -6
Oh, and the capsules are going to use "patent-applied-for ceramic diaphragm suspension rings." They are releasing these mics and some headphones April 2nd at Musikmesse. Hmm. i wonder what's different about them as opposed to other companies that have been using ceramic tension rings for just about forever already.. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 4, 2019 12:08:12 GMT -6
This is a new company, for the most part. Careful not to let expectations get too high. Let's give them time and space to develop and the benefit of the doubt.
I'd like to try out one of their offerings.
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Post by brenta on Mar 4, 2019 13:44:24 GMT -6
I'm excited to see what they come out with. Decades of AKG knowledge have been passed down amongst them and I'm sure they've had innovative ideas that they've been holding onto for years but have been unable to execute due to the realities of working for a publicly traded corporation.
On the other hand, I really wonder what's going on with AKG these days. Like who is engineering their products and where are they made? Seems they have an office in California. I've heard rumors that they are making their stuff in China or Hungary but I haven't been able to figure it out looking at their website.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 4, 2019 14:24:49 GMT -6
I'm excited to see what they come out with. Decades of AKG knowledge have been passed down amongst them and I'm sure they've had innovative ideas that they've been holding onto for years but have been unable to execute due to the realities of working for a publicly traded corporation. On the other hand, I really wonder what's going on with AKG these days. Like who is engineering their products and where are they made? Seems they have an office in California. I've heard rumors that they are making their stuff in China or Hungary but I haven't been able to figure it out looking at their website. I have 2 pairs of AKG Q701 headphones. One is made in Austria, one in China. |
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Post by drbill on Mar 4, 2019 14:28:56 GMT -6
Decades of AKG knowledge have been passed down amongst them . If those decades are the 80's, 90's, 00's and 10's, I'll pass.  It's the OLD AKG mics that truly shine. IMO of course. YMMV. I'll look forward to the reviews when they get their products out in the real world. <thumbsup> |
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2019 15:18:37 GMT -6
Decades of AKG knowledge have been passed down amongst them . If those decades are the 80's, 90's, 00's and 10's, I'll pass. It's the OLD AKG mics that truly shine. IMO of course. YMMV. I'll look forward to the reviews when they get their products out in the real world. <thumbsup> I can’t say AKG didn’t have the talent in house to design great mics over the past 40 years, and I can’t blame all the crap on the marketing and accounting departments either. There are stories about how there was nobody or any documents to show how to build an original CK12 by the time Harmon took over so let’s see what comes out from these guys. |
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Post by brenta on Mar 22, 2019 7:33:24 GMT -6
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 23, 2019 18:30:38 GMT -6
Seems like some of the laid-off AKG employees started Lewitt, and some started Austrian Audio. Hopefully all of them were able to find a job somewhere. Austrian Audio has more information on their Facebook page than they do on their website. Looks like they are about to release two new microphones, the OC-18 and OC-818. Looks like they are the same transformerless design but OC-18 is cardioid only and OC-818 is multi-pattern. They have edge terminated capsules made by "Senior Capsule Builder Monika," and from what I gather from their posts she had been making capsules for AKG since 1996. Not 414 clones but will be new and different, and engineered and made in Austria unlike anything AKG/Samsung makes now. HMmm..... 1996. That's interesting. Some of the PR I received from them tried to make it sound like they had the original designer of the CK-12 onboard. 1996 is pretty long - 22-23 years - but it doesn't really come close to experience building any of the vintage classics... |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 23, 2019 18:33:31 GMT -6
Decades of AKG knowledge have been passed down amongst them . If those decades are the 80's, 90's, 00's and 10's, I'll pass. It's the OLD AKG mics that truly shine. IMO of course. YMMV. I'll look forward to the reviews when they get their products out in the real world. <thumbsup> Well, you know reviewers - most of 'em will rave about anything that supports their publication's advertising department. |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 23, 2019 18:48:11 GMT -6
Just read the article - not impressed. Who the hell needs 255 polar patterns? And really, being able to choose polar pattern after the fact? Just what everybody needs - another decision to be as deferred as long as possible before committing. Wowie!
Dunno about the ceramic spacer ring - except for the far that ceramic is a hell of a lot more brittle than brass.
I'd feel a lot better about them if they'd just concentrate on just making a standard old fashioned multipattern LDC that sounds great with no other gizmos, geegaws, or bells and whistles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 18:55:31 GMT -6
Just read the article - not impressed. Who the hell needs 255 polar patterns? And really, being able to choose polar pattern after the fact? Just what everybody needs - another decision to be as deferred as long as possible before committing. Wowie!
Dunno about the ceramic spacer ring - except for the far that ceramic is a hell of a lot more brittle than brass.
I'd feel a lot better about them if they'd just concentrate on just making a standard old fashioned multipattern LDC that sounds great with no other gizmos, geegaws, or bells and whistles.
I know right, we need at least 500 polar patterns. Like if you need to record the slight whistle of a nose hair flutter without all the rubbish like voices included. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 27, 2019 12:00:16 GMT -6
It would only really make sense if it gave you a stereo matrix, like the sphere.
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Post by ericn on Mar 27, 2019 12:32:31 GMT -6
Just read the article - not impressed. Who the hell needs 255 polar patterns? And really, being able to choose polar pattern after the fact? Just what everybody needs - another decision to be as deferred as long as possible before committing. Wowie!
Dunno about the ceramic spacer ring - except for the far that ceramic is a hell of a lot more brittle than brass.
I'd feel a lot better about them if they'd just concentrate on just making a standard old fashioned multipattern LDC that sounds great with no other gizmos, geegaws, or bells and whistles.
Just call it a variable polar pattern with steps for easy recall ! You know somebody said we have to do something different at the product meeting. |
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Post by EmRR on Mar 27, 2019 12:33:08 GMT -6
Just read it, actually that's very cool for a lot of people. 255 is just the number assigned, really it's virtually continuously variable and assigned numbers lets you store something in memory. Dual output, I use that all the time with my MKH 800 Twin and DIY dual output TLM67. You'd be surprised what you don't know about polar patterns and the sound of a given room, once you get to drive that in post. Then, they're adding the ability to select polar patterns within crossover bands? There are people who can use this level of control, and this should be exciting to them. Also, dual output IS stereo output. It's the same as mid-side with an omni mid. |
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