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Post by chessparov on Feb 24, 2019 18:20:59 GMT -6
While this may not fit the profile of the kind of vocal microphone, that gets discussed much around here... I think this is a nice suggestion if you're trying to help someone new in recording-with a small budget. Or to be able to throw up something "worry free", for scratch tracks and the like. These AKG P120's are sometimes new on sale, for $80. Used around $50. Two issues with this microphone. It has a wide cardiod pattern (so some acoustic treatment really helps) And due to the self noise, it's best up close, 8" or less. Here's a brief acapella clip. The P120 has a pancake-like flat repsonse, up to around 10KHz. Then an air bump centered around 12 KHz. It is much less sibilant/picks up less breath noise, versus it's bigger diaphrahm brother, the AKG Perception 200/220. Thankfully/finally most of my allergy and cold issues are gone-for now. (although a little cold helps me sound a little more like Barry White!) |
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Post by christopher on Feb 25, 2019 13:30:36 GMT -6
You have a great voice! I’ve used some of the cheapie AKGs a few times, and they are good compared to others.
I actually got lazy for a few demos and used them, see what they are made of.. when it came time for mixing and stacking things up, I felt I would have been better off with any time tested dynamic mic vs. these. Something just started to make me unhappy. But you are right I’ll keep this in mind for newbies out there. I also had some ok luck with AT mics which aren’t much more $, those mixes I could enjoy.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 25, 2019 14:45:39 GMT -6
Thanks so much for your kind words! While I kept my original Light Baritone... I've gained a few bottom notes recently-down to a solid Low E. So I'm having a blast rediscovering all that 'ol Barry White/Issac Hayes/Richie Havens/Brook Benton/Eric Burdon kind of thang.  Also a somewhat underrated mic pre, is the Studio Projects VTB-1. It's a couple of notches nicer than the Mackie Onyx pre's, for example. So I plan to experiment running the P120 through mine. They can be picked up used for around $100, or less. I agree with you also... That I wouldn't do any major EQing with a budget microphone (with a low cost Chinese capsule) like this. Hopefully, you can catch a good sound from the start and not have to mess with it. BTW down the road, I plan to pick up a used Sennheiser 441, in excellent condition. One of my favorite vocal microphones, just love that tone! Chris |
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Post by Ward on Feb 26, 2019 7:06:35 GMT -6
Thanks for the sample! Channeling Waylon Jennings much? NICE JOB. I hope you're doing some Waylon live.
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Post by ericn on Feb 26, 2019 7:48:48 GMT -6
While this may not fit the profile of the kind of vocal microphone, that gets discussed much around here... I think this is a nice suggestion if you're trying to help someone new in recording-with a small budget. Or to be able to throw up something "worry free", for scratch tracks and the like. These AKG P120's are sometimes new on sale, for $80. Used around $50. Two issues with this microphone. It has a wide cardiod pattern (so some acoustic treatment really helps) And due to the self noise, it's best up close, 8" or less. Here's a brief acapella clip. The P120 has a pancake-like flat repsonse, up to around 10KHz. Then an air bump centered around 12 KHz. It is much less sibilant/picks up less breath noise, versus it's bigger diaphrahm brother, the AKG Perception 200/220. Thankfully/finally most of my allergy and cold issues are gone-for now. (although a little cold helps me sound a little more like Barry White!) It works better on you than the last couple of things I heard with the P120. This seams to be one of those it’s magic or it sucks mics. |
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Post by chessparov on Feb 26, 2019 13:22:02 GMT -6
Thanks guys! Yes Ward, I'll definitely be singing some Waylon 'round town. Eric, those other recent AKG clips were with the AKG Perception 200. For whatever reason(s), the boost in frequency response (AKG 200) starting at 4KHz... Brings out too much sibilance/breathiness, in my voice. And between a lingering Cold and pollen allergies, was in a vocal slump for 3+ months. (much better now!) Chris |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 13, 2019 23:10:21 GMT -6
Here's a little acapella clip of me, in 2nd Tenor, on the P120 to compare to the one above. Different song-it's "I've Got My Mind Set On You".
EDIT: Almost deleted this clip-but believe me-I know to sing this one with much more energy! Must've been really tired, when I recorded this.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 27, 2019 23:47:15 GMT -6
Another recording with the P120. Brief acapella "one take" of the Supremes/Temptations song "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me".
Thought it came out nice, pretty amazing for a "under $100 new condenser". Look Ma, no top end harshness!!
Chris
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Post by mrholmes on May 2, 2019 15:23:39 GMT -6
Funny.
Yesterday I wonderd that I still own my first condenser microphone from ø 1989 an AKG C 2000 B.
Sounded like shit on guitars, overly bright etc.
Never used it for years and just for fun I used it for my voice - my yaw droped.
It was spot on and I do own some expensive contenders.
Intresting ....
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Post by chessparov on May 2, 2019 16:30:14 GMT -6
I was sent an audio clip,by an amazing Tenor (no not Vincent R., or the other ones here). Anyway, it was on an AT2020, and it sounded-well great.
He's good friends, with some High End microphone manufacturers, so he wanted to stay anonymous.
Chris
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Post by chessparov on May 2, 2019 16:30:50 GMT -6
Funny.
Yesterday I wonderd that I still own my first condenser microphone from ø 1989 an AKG C 2000 B.
Sounded like shit on guitars, overly bright etc.
Never used it for years and just for fun I used it for my voice - my yaw droped.
It was spot on and I do own some expensive contenders.
Intresting ....
Very cool! Chris |
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Post by Guitar on May 2, 2019 16:49:49 GMT -6
I like that low register, very nice.
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Post by chessparov on May 2, 2019 17:36:21 GMT -6
Thanks! What's ironic is that with completed proper Classical training... According to the great vocal master I studied with for a bit, Maestro Pelayo (he's 101 as of February!!), my true range is a Low E, to a Tenor's B flat (almost 2 1/2 Octaves). But only a little more than 2 Octaves (F sharp to A flat), singing in my original "Tenorish" High Baritone (which I still have). I found it fascinating that singing in a heavier register, might produce a larger range. I'm sure that Vincent R. knows all this already though! BTW I always wanted to be able to sing in a deep Bass, but when I'm around a "real Bass" with THAT resonance, it truly gives me a reality check.
Most of lead singers in the top local groups around town, are 1st and/or 2nd Tenor singers, so I stumbled into learning if...
I started learning (or already knew) the Baritone/High Bass part to their songs for BGV's, I'd get to spend a lot more time onstage!
Chris
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Post by chessparov on May 12, 2019 22:26:29 GMT -6
Here's one of my "practice recordings", an acapella of the Classic Gamble & Huff song "Together" (Intruders/Tierra).
This time in 2nd Tenor. A one take/off the cuff take, but it'll help me to perform it around town, starting in a month or so. (I know it can be refined more)
P120>Mbox2>Multitrackstudio.
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