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Post by matt on Jan 22, 2019 8:49:34 GMT -6
Just announced for NAMM by McDSP. Looks interesting, no word on price beyond an introductory offer for early adopters. Not sure I need it, but there's always the possibility: APB-16
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 22, 2019 12:47:18 GMT -6
This is very interesting to me. Kind of a first if it does what I think it does. Could be excellent. Neat, in any case!
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Post by sirthought on Jan 22, 2019 20:52:39 GMT -6
Is this going to be like a UAD DSP dongle box? Or the Waves SoundGrid?
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 22, 2019 21:10:32 GMT -6
With them emphasizing that it is analog and a new concept realized I was thinking it's actually hardware eq and comp that is controlled by plugins.
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2019 21:45:54 GMT -6
I wonder what the quality of the converters will be inside this thing? If you figure a pro level 16 channel interface is $3000 and up, this thing is going to be at least $4000, assuming that they're going after the pro level market.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jan 25, 2019 18:17:50 GMT -6
I’m
Totally intrigued to get my hands on this unit,
Apparently, you can stack them, but...
It’s 16 channels of programmable DA/processors/AD used as inserts in your DAW, with plug in GUI, through thunderbolt 2 or 3 port,
No analog I/o on it, and no DSP! Wild!
Count me in!! Wow
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 25, 2019 18:50:17 GMT -6
I’m Totally intrigued to get my hands on this unit, Apparently, you can stack them, but... It’s 16 channels of programmable DA/processors/AD used as inserts in your DAW, with plug in GUI, through thunderbolt 2 or 3 port, No analog I/o on it, and no DSP! Wild! Count me in!! Wow I don't understand how it processes anything then... |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 25, 2019 20:26:36 GMT -6
That's exactly what I thought it was. But when I saw the sentence "No analog I/o and no DSP" I thought, then how does it do anything?
Yes. This box is something I have absolutely been waiting for. If the ADDA is up to task, I am sure it will be great. But do I HAVE to use PT?
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Post by Quint on Jan 25, 2019 23:21:26 GMT -6
The "X" factor will be whether or not the ad/da is up to snuff and whether or not the analog processing is also up to snuff. The concept is certainly intriguing, to say the least.
Hopefully it's not PT centric.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 25, 2019 23:25:23 GMT -6
The "X" factor will be whether or not the ad/da is up to snuff and whether or not the analog processing is also up to snuff. The concept is certainly intriguing, to say the least. Hopefully it's not PT centric. Definitely. The idea is great and if it is realized then that will be really a great step in the direction I have been imagining for music production. I always thought there was another way to marry analog and digital. This is really something cool. I bet it will be more commonplace in the next ten years. I welcome it. Plugins that drive shape shifting hardware. |
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Post by Quint on Jan 25, 2019 23:31:07 GMT -6
The "X" factor will be whether or not the ad/da is up to snuff and whether or not the analog processing is also up to snuff. The concept is certainly intriguing, to say the least. Hopefully it's not PT centric. Definitely. The idea is great and if it is realized then that will be really a great step in the direction I have been imagining for music production. I always thought there was another way to marry analog and digital. This is really something cool. I bet it will be more commonplace in the next ten years. I welcome it. Plugins that drive shape shifting hardware. Thing is, we all talk about the tone of box "x". Is the analog circuitry in this sort of system capable of creating all of these analog flavors we're all chasing? Granted, the analog processing in this sort of system will be somewhat pedestrian, by design. But can the analog circuitry give me 10 channels of LA3A type compression during tracking? |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 26, 2019 0:07:16 GMT -6
Definitely. The idea is great and if it is realized then that will be really a great step in the direction I have been imagining for music production. I always thought there was another way to marry analog and digital. This is really something cool. I bet it will be more commonplace in the next ten years. I welcome it. Plugins that drive shape shifting hardware. Thing is, we all talk about the tone of box "x". Is the analog circuitry in this sort of system capable of creating all of these analog flavors we're all chasing? Granted, the analog processing in this sort of system will be somewhat pedestrian, by design. But can the analog circuitry give me 10 channels of LA3A type compression during tracking? Right. Totally get what you mean. I was thinking Fairchild lol. However, since this may be the first of its kind, it probably will do some different types of curves and comps, and maybe that's it. However of it's good sounding, that will give some nice hardware processing options that are possibly far more affordable than actual hardware and totally recallable, too. This seems sort of ideal to me for basic eq and comps and even saturation. Analog plugins... I dunno... It may catch on and really become the norm. I'm game. |
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Post by sirthought on Jan 26, 2019 9:37:15 GMT -6
I think if he's stating he's likely to keep it under $10K, then we're looking at $9K.
That's a big price tag for a one-stop shop that you don't know if it does everything to satisfaction.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 26, 2019 10:52:50 GMT -6
I think if he's stating he's likely to keep it under $10K, then we're looking at $9K. That's a big price tag for a one-stop shop that you don't know if it does everything to satisfaction. Yowza. I missed that part. Very cool idea, but too rich for my blood. Hopefully though, that means it is premium in every way and the conversion and circuits are all tops. |
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Post by seawell on Jan 26, 2019 12:23:41 GMT -6
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 26, 2019 13:28:18 GMT -6
If it's all high quality stuff, the price makes sense to me. Lets see how it sounds. Can't afford it but it sure seems like a great idea.
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Post by Quint on Jan 26, 2019 13:43:57 GMT -6
Just watched that NAMM video. They shouldn't give cocaine to gear nerds...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 26, 2019 14:06:31 GMT -6
I can't imagine this sounding better than plugins.
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Post by drbill on Jan 26, 2019 14:40:40 GMT -6
Just watched that NAMM video. They shouldn't give cocaine to gear nerds... If it's cocaine, he's been doing it for close to 20 years. Been that way every time I've seen him. I think that's just who he is. As for the box, I'd just like to understand it, and what / how they are doing it. He's too veiled in his descriptions for me to even understand what it does..... I sent Brad over to get the scoop.  I hope he has time to check it out. So much stuff.... |
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Post by Quint on Jan 26, 2019 14:46:34 GMT -6
Just watched that NAMM video. They shouldn't give cocaine to gear nerds... If it's cocaine, he's been doing it for close to 20 years. Been that way every time I've seen him. I think that's just who he is. As for the box, I'd just like to understand it, and what / how they are doing it. He's too veiled in his descriptions for me to even understand what it does..... I sent Brad over to get the scoop. I hope he has time to check it out. So much stuff.... My understanding is that it's just like the Bettermaker analog/digital stuff, except it also includes the ad/da, doesn't have any knobs, and has multiple channels. |
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Post by drbill on Jan 26, 2019 14:49:43 GMT -6
I may be misunderstanding, but it sounds like he has some kind of proprietary analog stuff that will allow the user to configure a particular channel as EQ, Comp, Limiter, or Saturator, etc..
If it's just another DA/AD insert with software control over his particular hardware....I have two things to say. 1. He better have had some outside analog design work, and 2. It better sound beyond amazing. There's a lot of competition for "analog" on your DAW inserts out there.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 26, 2019 15:35:00 GMT -6
I think it's like the whole FPGA processors. Configurable analog circuitry that can mimic hardware but controlled by a plugin.
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Post by joey808 on Jan 26, 2019 22:13:23 GMT -6
No one is going to buy this at 10k
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Post by miscend on Jan 27, 2019 5:14:25 GMT -6
There are still plenty of studios that make enough money to afford something like this. Consoles and speakers cost much more than 10k. This in theory can replicate very expensive outboard. It’s definitely not for the project studio market.
Basically looks like Collin has invented some sort of programmable discrete analogue circuit that can be configured to mimic let’s say an LA3A, a 1073 EQ or other similar topologies. I think it’s usefulness can probably also extend to prototyping analogue circuit designs before going to manufacturing. It’s an incredible technological achievement I think.
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Post by ericn on Jan 27, 2019 9:10:18 GMT -6
I’m going to take a wait and see attitude on this one. I have heard the promise of a circuit like this many times, funny how none of them made it to market. Part of the problem with trying to do this in a one size fits all circuit is that an LA2, an 1176, a Fairchild. A Pultec or even a 550a are not linear devices and bring many different things to the party and many reach for the same device for different reasons.
If it works 10K is reasonable, but I still think a 2K 2ch would probably get more people to buy in and give it a try.
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I hope he has time to check it out. So much stuff....
