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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 23:39:35 GMT -6
I would assume that there aren't dedicated transformers for every i/o. Maybe even relays might be used to switch between those parts of the circuit which are different versus those parts of the circuit which are redundant? Just speculating here, but I'm guessing there aren't multiple completely independent circuits inside. Why have duplicative parts if switches/relays can make certain parts of the circuit pull double duty? Not that I've seen the inside of the ADG either, but I kind of figured there was something similar going on inside the ADG as well. It would make sense to do so from the standpoint of cost and weight. Yes, it makes sense from cost and weight. But then we aren’t talking about 4 different units. It becomes an approximation of what The 4 units actually are. I’m fairly certain (please correct me If I’m wrong, it’s been a while since I’ve opened these units) that none of them share the same in/out tranny’s, and the way the 2a and 3a achieve their release time is through the opto unit (t4b, t4c, etc). Even a quick look on Sowter’s page shows different spec output transformers for the 2a and 3a... Aren't we saying the same thing? At least I'm thinking we are. Again, I'm speculating here, but I'm guessing that, unless there is an appreciable difference in transformer tone between some of the circuit designs, there are, at least in some cases, some duplicative uses of circuit and/or transformers. Not that I would at all have a problem with two (or four) completely separate circuits. I just figured that cost saving measures would dictate some overlap of the circuits.
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Post by stam on Jan 8, 2019 1:59:34 GMT -6
They have independent output transformers The 3A also uses the auto former before the T4B The LA4 uses the same transformer as the 3A as originally
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 8, 2019 3:40:48 GMT -6
If you are going to the trouble of adding all the different parts of the circuit, why not go all the way, add another T4 and put two complete compressors in the same box? There could be an option for independent use and another one that lets you switch between both for comparison.
Also, not to rain on anyone's parade, but switching between 2A and 3A without repatching can be easily done with the Golden Age stuff, since their 2A features a bypass switch in the front, like the 3A. There's another idea: bypass switch!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2019 4:20:01 GMT -6
Given the option of independent use and a small price premium, Captain Picard says ”make it so!”
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Post by hio on Jan 8, 2019 5:45:51 GMT -6
Given the option of independent use and a small price premium, Captain Picard says ”make it so!” #1
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Post by Ward on Jan 8, 2019 6:28:35 GMT -6
I have a LA4. i use it for vocals all the time, paired with rightish mics it can sound great. i also have 2 la2a’s and 2 sta’s And a la3a.... so there ya go...now you know one person 🙂 cheers Wiz Awesome!! Glad to meet your acquaintance Mr. LA4 guy!!! "Why" do you choose the 4 over your 2a's? (You just got your 3 right?) Maybe the 2a/3a vs 4 is an LA thing..... wiz Peter is not alone!! I’ve been using an LA4 on bass for years as my main choice - and that’s over LA2a and LA3a choices sitting next to it in the same rack and also in the next slots over in the patch bays. The LA4 gets enough love to show it is an important choice. I honestly had not considered an LA234 clone but this is genius. Only question is: actual delivery date?
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Post by lcr on Jan 8, 2019 6:57:20 GMT -6
Well Ward, a big pink elephant in the room and you had to bring it up didnt you? Prepare for K Dogg to preventativly deflate the conversation.. standby, 3...2....1...
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2019 8:36:25 GMT -6
What I am concerned about is people going on incessantly about issues that we all know about and have discussed ad nausea um which takes the thread away from its stated topic.
Please, if what you or anybody else wants is to just bitch and moan about stam and not contribute to the actual topic just start another thread.
Sometimes, it begins to feel like Gs around here.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 8, 2019 9:29:56 GMT -6
What I am concerned about is people going on incessantly about issues that we all know about and have discussed ad nausea um which takes the thread away from its stated topic. So when you bought your dog from Stam, was she delivered on time? And were the "lovely spirit" and "generous, knowing and magnanimous nature" upgrades from the standard model or do they all come that way?
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Post by lcr on Jan 8, 2019 9:49:00 GMT -6
I meant no harm, apologies if offended. We all know how timeframes and defending timeframes pan out here. I was trying to lighten the thought of delays and laugh about it, no need to bite. Peace, Patience & Love!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 8, 2019 9:56:10 GMT -6
This is the hottest sauce I've tried...
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Post by lcr on Jan 8, 2019 9:57:59 GMT -6
I could feel the lbs sweating away through my pores consuming that..
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2019 10:03:42 GMT -6
Kcat comes from a breeder, named Roberta near Belleville Ontario, out on a farm in the countryside, with a racetrack and about 30-50 Italian greyhounds, whippets and greyhounds all pure bread. It is quite a sight in the summer time to see them racing off across the open fields like an undulating wave of dog energy. Whippets can apparently hit like 35 mph as they accelerate and then they all flop down and squish together like sardines. I had a Siberian husky named Zeus before, - 40 bring it on I really do love and appreciate dog spirit and very genuinely feel that I have learned a lot about living in the moment from observing my dogs.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 8, 2019 10:22:59 GMT -6
So this breeder supplies dogs for racing?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2019 10:33:08 GMT -6
I don't now that, I have kcat as a family dog.
Actually, she was my ex's but ended up with me, after Zeus passed. I don't think Roberta breeds for racing as they actually have a lot or rules around their breeding, feeding and care.
Some people race but with whippets they like to do those sort of obstacle course timed events, as whippets are both extremely fast, exceptionally nimble and very bright. I just have fun with kcat and try not let her catch too many squirrels, but, as she is older now ,she is not so excited by small game. Whippets were originally bred for small game hunting and racing.
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Post by drbill on Jan 8, 2019 10:36:55 GMT -6
Given the option of independent use and a small price premium, Captain Picard says ”make it so!” I think that's essentially what I was trying to say from the get go.....was it not?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 8, 2019 11:11:11 GMT -6
I don't now that, I have kcat as a family dog. Actually, she was my ex's but ended up with me, after Zeus passed. I don't think Roberta breeds for racing as they actually have a lot or rules around their breeding, feeding and care. Some people race but with whippets they like to do those sort of obstacle course timed events, as whippets are both extremely fast, exceptionally nimble and very bright. I just have fun with kcat and try not let her catch too many squirrels, but, as she is older now ,she is not so excited by small game. Whippets were originally bred for small game hunting and racing. Hold on, your dog is actually named kcat? What's the story there?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 8, 2019 12:01:27 GMT -6
yes, her name is kcatthedog, so I named my fictitious band on my album, kcatthedog and my company kcatthedog productions !
I think her actual name is katrina, but my kids and ex started calling her kcat and I have a bad sense of humor so lengthened it to kcatthedog; which is really just fun.
But you know, kids love it, most people laugh, but when we meet someone who is apprently gay or maybe transgender, you can tell that the implicit message around self definition and acceptance of diversity is very powerful for them.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 8, 2019 12:06:28 GMT -6
Personal experiences / thoughts : 1 - I have never seen anyone choose a LA4 when a LA2/3 was available. 2 - Although perhaps my fav or at least ONE of my top fav compressors, I'd never choose a 3a to track vocals with over a 2a. Random thoughts.... You don't do any hiphop/rap stuff? Emmiem made the La3a on vocals a huge thing in the 90s. That was his main tracking compressor.
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Post by ragan on Jan 8, 2019 12:25:45 GMT -6
I’ve always liked a 3a better on vocals, myself.
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Post by stam on Jan 8, 2019 13:13:49 GMT -6
I’ve always liked a 3a better on vocals, myself. +1 on the 3A, my favorite as well
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 8, 2019 15:32:08 GMT -6
It's legend that Adele used an LA3A on vocals for her biggest hits.
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Post by Quint on Jan 8, 2019 18:22:26 GMT -6
Josh,
I'm interested in using the discount offered to me by email to pick up a second ADG. I'm in the second batch of ADGs for the first one I reserved. How do I ensure that, if I reserve a second ADG, it will be exactly the same (no design changes) as the one I've already reserved?
If necessary, I don't mind waiting (and would even prefer) to receive both units until the second one is ready. In other words, if necessary, I would be willing to give up my place in line in the second batch to ensure that both of my units are identical.
Also, what price is the discount based on? The preorder price? The stock price?
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Post by ragan on Jan 8, 2019 23:21:32 GMT -6
The SA23A+ page is live in case anyone hadn't noticed. stam I just put my deposit down. I sent an email about it. Is that enough to lock in that nice $890 price for those of us who've had the long delays? Really looking forward to this beast.
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Post by Quint on Jan 8, 2019 23:24:53 GMT -6
The SA23A+ page is live in case anyone hadn't noticed. stam I just put my deposit down. I sent an email about it. Is that enough to lock in that nice $890 price for those of us who've had the long delays? Really looking forward to this beast. It's $790 for the delay price, no?
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