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Post by indiehouse on Nov 24, 2018 12:38:49 GMT -6
Anyone tried this yet? I hear it’s fantastic.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2018 13:31:04 GMT -6
Is it out? I’ll try it, but I haven’t really found an Acustica comp I’ve really liked yet.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 24, 2018 13:51:02 GMT -6
Greg Wells likes it...
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2018 15:20:43 GMT -6
He also makes a lot of money off of it lol. I'm sure it's good.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 24, 2018 16:58:01 GMT -6
Apparently there's some give away contest but i haven't seen it
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Post by macsearcher on Nov 24, 2018 19:39:36 GMT -6
I've been giving it a good run for the last hour or so against my Sta-Level (Retro). They are different beasts to be sure but I would lean on them for similar duties. First impressions are very good indeed. I spend a lot of time printing vocals and bass tracks through my Sta as nothing in software does what it does. The El Rey is quite competitive and in some cases, preferable.
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Post by c0rtland on Nov 24, 2018 23:28:30 GMT -6
I've been giving it a good run for the last hour or so against my Sta-Level (Retro). They are different beasts to be sure but I would lean on them for similar duties. First impressions are very good indeed. I spend a lot of time printing vocals and bass tracks through my Sta as nothing in software does what it does. The El Rey is quite competitive and in some cases, preferable. I'll definitely be checking this one out.
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Post by papag on Nov 25, 2018 1:20:41 GMT -6
I've been giving it a good run for the last hour or so against my Sta-Level (Retro). They are different beasts to be sure but I would lean on them for similar duties. First impressions are very good indeed. I spend a lot of time printing vocals and bass tracks through my Sta as nothing in software does what it does. The El Rey is quite competitive and in some cases, preferable. Could you share some before and after audio files? I downloaded the demo and had difficulty hearing the magic that everyone is raving about...
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Post by jampa on Nov 25, 2018 2:10:09 GMT -6
Yea I gave it a go. It sounds great, tanks my CPU though
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 25, 2018 10:28:21 GMT -6
There’s a local indie producer here that I saw just raving about all these acustica plugs as the best stuff he’s ever heard. OMG, and then hundreds of people thanking him for his forward thinking brilliance. Kinda wanted to say where have you been for the last seven years? Lol. Anyway, he was also raving about Viridian and how these were better than UAD. My experience has been that the EQs sound really great. As good as hardware in some cases. But there are algorithmic plugs that are just as good without the hassle. The comps in Viridian are definitely better, but I still don’t find them as good as some of the UAD stuff. For instance. Try slamming the f760 on a drum bus and then the chandler zener. They just don’t seem to break up like the algorithmic ones.
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Post by seawell on Nov 25, 2018 10:37:11 GMT -6
There’s a local indie producer here that I saw just raving about all these acustica plugs as the best stuff he’s ever heard. OMG, and then hundreds of people thanking him for his forward thinking brilliance. Kinda wanted to say where have you been for the last seven years? Lol. Anyway, he was also raving about Viridian and how these were better than UAD. My experience has been that the EQs sound really great. As good as hardware in some cases. But there are algorithmic plugs that are just as good without the hassle. The comps in Viridian are definitely better, but I still don’t find them as good as some of the UAD stuff. For instance. Try slamming the f760 on a drum bus and then the chandler zener. They just don’t seem to break up like the algorithmic ones. I had the same experience when comparing cream to the UAD zener. When I get back in the studio tonight I’m going to demo El Rey & see how it stacks up to my Sta Level.
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Post by m03 on Nov 25, 2018 20:48:25 GMT -6
Downloaded it. It's nice, but as others have said, it's eats CPU (and my system is i7-7700k based, so relatively recent). I'm not yet convinced that it's worth the praise that is being heaped on it elsewhere, but I haven't spent a ton of time with it yet.
That said, this did encourage me to demo a few other items, and I've been pleasantly surprised by Pink2. The only drawback thus far has been crashing my DAW when put on the same track as Oeksound Soothe, but I can't say that I'm surprised.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 25, 2018 21:18:07 GMT -6
Downloaded it. It's nice, but as others have said, it's eats CPU (and my system is i7-7700k based, so relatively recent). I'm not yet convinced that it's worth the praise that is being heaped on it elsewhere, but I haven't spent a ton of time with it yet. That said, this did encourage me to demo a few other items, and I've been pleasantly surprised by Pink2. The only drawback thus far has been crashing my DAW when put on the same track as Oeksound Soothe, but I can't say that I'm surprised. This is the kind of stuff that’s kept me away. My poor 2012 Mac Mini probably won’t keep up, and I definitely don’t need DAW crashes in my life.
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Post by jampa on Nov 26, 2018 1:49:41 GMT -6
I've been giving it a good run for the last hour or so Could you share some before and after audio files? I downloaded the demo and had difficulty hearing the magic that everyone is raving about... Here are some drums hereDry; el rey; standard REAPER compressor compressors doing about 3dB compression, then level matched by ear
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 26, 2018 3:19:29 GMT -6
The 7700k still has about the best single core performance out there. Its multi is pretty decent too. El Rey eats a ton of cpu on my overclocked Ryzen 1700, so the few hundred extra multicore points over the 7700k doesn’t seem to help. That said, it’s another case of different and not really better when compared with Devil Loc. I’m sure that’s the case with other stuff. I still don’t get the acustica hype. Could be a lot of expectation bias. You would need to chain several powerful cpus with Vienna Ensemble to have any chance at mixing with a lot of these. Acustica should start making servers with 8700k chips, they’d sell a ton.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 26, 2018 5:42:04 GMT -6
Downloaded it. It's nice, but as others have said, it's eats CPU (and my system is i7-7700k based, so relatively recent). I'm not yet convinced that it's worth the praise that is being heaped on it elsewhere, but I haven't spent a ton of time with it yet. That said, this did encourage me to demo a few other items, and I've been pleasantly surprised by Pink2. The only drawback thus far has been crashing my DAW when put on the same track as Oeksound Soothe, but I can't say that I'm surprised.
Crashing is the reason why I stay away from AA plugs. I cant afford an unstable DAW.
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2018 9:57:44 GMT -6
For those of y'all trying out Acustica plugins, be aware that it's not just about the CPU, but also about the RAM. That's why my new 8700k PC build also got 32gb of ram as well. Acustica plugins need a lot of RAM too. They're not like normal plugins.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 26, 2018 10:08:57 GMT -6
For those of y'all trying out Acustica plugins, be aware that it's not just about the CPU, but also about the RAM. That's why my new 8700k PC build also got 32gb of ram as well. Acustica plugins need a lot of RAM too. They're not like normal plugins.
I checked my RAM Risers and it says still 32 GB.
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Post by papag on Nov 26, 2018 16:19:33 GMT -6
There’s a local indie producer here that I saw just raving about all these acustica plugs as the best stuff he’s ever heard. OMG, and then hundreds of people thanking him for his forward thinking brilliance. Kinda wanted to say where have you been for the last seven years? Lol. Anyway, he was also raving about Viridian and how these were better than UAD. My experience has been that the EQs sound really great. As good as hardware in some cases. But there are algorithmic plugs that are just as good without the hassle. The comps in Viridian are definitely better, but I still don’t find them as good as some of the UAD stuff. For instance. Try slamming the f760 on a drum bus and then the chandler zener. They just don’t seem to break up like the algorithmic ones. I had the same experience when comparing cream to the UAD zener. When I get back in the studio tonight I’m going to demo El Rey & see how it stacks up to my Sta Level. How did it stack up?
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Post by seawell on Nov 26, 2018 17:19:51 GMT -6
I had the same experience when comparing cream to the UAD zener. When I get back in the studio tonight I’m going to demo El Rey & see how it stacks up to my Sta Level. How did it stack up? Surprisingly well. It doesn’t make me want to sell any outboard but it is a nice option to have in a plug in for sure! Pushing the input knob can really smooth out the top end on a bright vocal in particular.
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Post by m03 on Dec 2, 2018 20:47:51 GMT -6
Now that it's been out a few days and their sale is coming closer to ending, has anyone else been impressed by the demo and/or decided to take the leap?
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Post by veggieryan on Dec 2, 2018 22:33:59 GMT -6
I bought both Taupe and El Rey... first time I was impressed by Acustica plugins. Personally, I think the core 13 tech they are built on is a significant step up from all existing plugin technology as far as the results are concerned if matching holy grail tape machines and a RCA BA6A compressor are your goals. When you flick on the El Rey it does remind me of the wow factor you get from a BA6A more than anything I have heard in the box. Taupe has a depth and texture that is very much next level compared to all other tape plugins for my ear. They are still CPU hogs but with modern chips like an i7 7820x 8 core they are usable and worth it. The other new plugin that I feel is a must have is Gulfoss and it also drinks the CPU doing some esoteric mathematics based on how we perceive audio as an dynamic equalizer of sorts. Very different from the advanced dynamic impulse convolution type tech of Acustica but both are very demanding. I would expect new plugin technology to make use of the cpu power available as we progress though. Its pretty cool to see all 16 cpu meters maxed out in the mac os activity monitor as Logic performs flawlessly on Mojave. Makes me feel like I am getting my moneys worth on this new CPU.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 5, 2018 18:15:28 GMT -6
I demoed El Rey and I really like it, but I could only run one instance in my session, and I had to up my buffer setting to 1024 to avoid crackling. I might’ve been able to instantiate one more, but I wouldn’t have been able to run anything else at that point.
My machine is not the newest kid on the block, but it’s no slouch: 12 core 3.33GHz Xeon classic Mac Pro with 32 gigs of RAM. Running Logic.
I should add that I put it on the 2-bus of a mix that was already in progress, but there’s not much going on in that mix yet. I have a couple different reverbs eating up some CPU, but nothing out of the ordinary.
A bunch of people seem to be praising the Core 13 technology as finally low enough CPU hit to make it broadly usable. That, however, is not my experience at this point.
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Post by seawell on Dec 5, 2018 19:50:10 GMT -6
I demoed El Rey and I really like it, but I could only run one instance in my session, and I had to up my buffer setting to 1024 to avoid crackling. I might’ve been able to instantiate one more, but I wouldn’t have been able to run anything else at that point. My machine is not the newest kid on the block, but it’s no slouch: 12 core 3.33GHz Xeon classic Mac Pro with 32 gigs of RAM. Running Logic. I should add that I put it on the 2-bus of a mix that was already in progress, but there’s not much going on in that mix yet. I have a couple different reverbs eating up some CPU, but nothing out of the ordinary. A bunch of people seem to be praising the Core 13 technology as finally low enough CPU hit to make it broadly usable. That, however, is not my experience at this point. If you’re using Pro Tools/Mac combo it’s very hit or miss with Acustica plug ins in my experience. It’s too bad because they sound great but for instance every time I tweak a knob in Gold 2, I get a playback error. Cream, Taupe & El Rey are pretty good here(I’m on the latest version of Pro Tools on a trash can Mac Pro w/ 32GB ram). Gold 2, Ebony & Azure are basically unusable on my set up.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 5, 2018 19:50:29 GMT -6
I demoed El Rey and I really like it, but I could only run one instance in my session, and I had to up my buffer setting to 1024 to avoid crackling. I might’ve been able to instantiate one more, but I wouldn’t have been able to run anything else at that point. My machine is not the newest kid on the block, but it’s no slouch: 12 core 3.33GHz Xeon classic Mac Pro with 32 gigs of RAM. Running Logic. I should add that I put it on the 2-bus of a mix that was already in progress, but there’s not much going on in that mix yet. I have a couple different reverbs eating up some CPU, but nothing out of the ordinary. A bunch of people seem to be praising the Core 13 technology as finally low enough CPU hit to make it broadly usable. That, however, is not my experience at this point. There are two Mark Williams'?
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