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Post by Guitar on Nov 14, 2018 8:16:23 GMT -6
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Post by mcirish on Nov 14, 2018 10:21:25 GMT -6
The intro video I watched didn't really give me any idea why i would want the upgrade. i'm looking forward to a more in-depth overview of new features. I use Nuendo primarily but since I'm no longer doing much post work, I think I might change to working with Cubase. I have a license for both.
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Post by swurveman on Nov 14, 2018 11:15:53 GMT -6
"Hey look, we've made it even easier for Facebook musicians- who can't play any instrument (real or virtual) in time and can't sing - to sound like they can".
I kid. Kinda.....
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Post by Guitar on Nov 14, 2018 11:58:48 GMT -6
I'm interested in the align feature (just to mess with that), and the new Groove Agent 5 SE, since I do used sampled drums on some of my songs
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Post by junior on Nov 14, 2018 12:51:25 GMT -6
So glad I got off that train a few years ago. I certainly don't miss all their nickel and diming. Still, I like to keep up on the development since I spent so many years with it. Hope it's working well for y'all!
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Post by popmann on Nov 14, 2018 14:16:44 GMT -6
I was really hoping they used "X" to gut the app and bring back some leanness.
It would be interesting to hear what someone really uses that they've implemented in 10 years. So much of what the "other" DAWs are implementing piecemeal over the years are things that were in Nuendo(and Cubase on the midi side) so many years ago. But, I no longer see Steinberg leading the way. It seems like everyone responsible left or took executive gigs at Yamaha....leaving the devs to just come up with new UI "workflows" for the same tech under the hood.
Meanwhile, Logic's going full steam ahead towards "musician's content creation software" with making audio and midi and instruments all "one"....Harrison's going full steam in the "good sonics at fader up"....Presonus is going for the first party turnkey solution of hardware and software with their line of mixers, rack mixers, controllers, all interfacing out of the box with Studio One....Reaper's the "runs off a thumbdrive" lean code that does VERY basics by design out of the box and is inexpensive without arbitrary limits....what's now the thing that Steinberg can claim is their direction?
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Post by Tbone81 on Nov 14, 2018 14:27:05 GMT -6
Being able to toggle between mix revisions in the mix console is a cool feature. Now they just need to match logics flextime quantization and they’d have a real winner. I phrased to 9.5 from 6 a little while ago and honestly there was very life’s differences that did anything for me. In fact the midi latency/responsiveness got worse on my system for whatever reason.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 14, 2018 14:59:43 GMT -6
OMG...the auto alignment thing is worth $99 for me...
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 14, 2018 15:02:43 GMT -6
OMG...the tuning...
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Nov 14, 2018 16:45:39 GMT -6
Yes it looks like a solid update for $99. Maybe a bit disappointing considering it is version 10!!
Auto alignment and variaudio are a nice addition and finally the scaling should work properly.
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Post by lpedrum on Nov 14, 2018 16:48:41 GMT -6
The intro video I watched didn't really give me any idea why i would want the upgrade. i'm looking forward to a more in-depth overview of new features. I use Nuendo primarily but since I'm no longer doing much post work, I think I might change to working with Cubase. I have a license for both. Has any DAW come out with a mind-blowing, game changing feature over the past three years? Currently it seems that DAWs are pretty much where smart phones are right now--tweaking some fun cool features but not offering anything radically new.
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Post by popmann on Nov 14, 2018 22:22:01 GMT -6
Well, both DAW purchases I've made since leaving Cubase were for "innovative" unique features...while "game changing" is subjective, Logic's auto tempo mapping Drummer means I never record to a click again EVEN when making a quick demo--which is when it used to functionally NEED to happen...and then Mixbus32c for using Moore's Law to bring the SONICS of an old analog desk and tape machine to software--I have a hard time imagining CHOOSING to mix with something else right now.
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 15, 2018 5:29:47 GMT -6
Well, both DAW purchases I've made since leaving Cubase were for "innovative" unique features...while "game changing" is subjective, Logic's auto tempo mapping Drummer means I never record to a click again EVEN when making a quick demo--which is when it used to functionally NEED to happen...and then Mixbus32c for using Moore's Law to bring the SONICS of an old analog desk and tape machine to software--I have a hard time imagining CHOOSING to mix with something else right now. I really need to use Mixbus more. It's just the editing that kills it for me. But mixing on that is great. I was just contemplating cubase 9 and here is 10...
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Post by popmann on Nov 15, 2018 10:36:54 GMT -6
I don't edit beyond top&tail, which is FAR faster than any other DAW I've used given that you just hover your mouse and use J and K to define beginning and end for the region and S to split them. The end automatically crossfades (to silence when there's not layers beneath)--so, you don't have to create a fade unless you, well--need to based on content. It won't pop or click at the beginning/end. Actually--I just had to remove some sibilance, and again--way faster---R and D switch tools to range selection and the pencil--you select the offensive SSssss, hit D to switch to the pencil and one swipe of the mouse takes that range down by however much you want to drag it.
I wish they'd stayed true to the "no midi except sync" that they originally had. But, MIDI is what makes the new market's world go around, so they had to cave, I guess. In the end, I benefit--because I can configure a CHANNEL with something like Ivory and record it's audio output as I play much easier than cubase or Logic will. If I want to actually record the MIDI AS WELL, it can do that....but, that's not how I work for things I play with ten fingers and two feet....
There's no drum sample triggering function. I find that problematic. I've been using Cubase or SD3's Tracker to generate those....but, long term, I need a better solution. I maintain that "sampled real" ambience mics is just a "better reverb" than a reverb.
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Post by drsax on Nov 15, 2018 14:10:24 GMT -6
Looks like a solid update. Looking forward to upgrading soon. 9.5 has been fantastic
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Post by popmann on Nov 15, 2018 14:52:45 GMT -6
While no one here mentioned, let me be the first to tell you the biggest selling point for ME.....they DID finally reorg the right click menu that had gotten so bloated over the years, it was like it contained literally anything you could do to audio or MIDI....it wasn't REALLY contextual, since right clickign MIDI data gave you the same options as audio....etc....they've apparently fixed that glitch.
I know that sounds like crybaby stuff....but, honestly--the difference in 6 and 9.5 contextual menu was absurd--and I owuld argue 6 was already bloated and not well organized.
This is the second point that I have to give to Reaper--it allows you to customize the contextual menu to what YOU want to see....At the end of the day--Steinberg's got so bloated (and Logics is, albeit better organized) because people went "I want X in the contextual menu"....someone else say "I want Y"....and as a programmer it's easy to make both those folks happy, but as someone who ONLY cares about Z being there--anyway, allowing someone to remove what they don't want to see is really all they can do--everyone wants to see different things.
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The multichannel to mono...and visa versa...the new sidechain routing (which was a nice part of Mixbus) being right where you enable sidechain on a plug in...
Yep...lots of good stuff here.
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