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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 25, 2019 21:22:25 GMT -6
I had a session today. Punkish rock. Used the 72 on bass cab and vocals. Sounded balls.
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 25, 2019 21:47:55 GMT -6
Must...resist....tone....box....
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Post by jacobamerritt on Feb 25, 2019 23:01:07 GMT -6
So what are the go-to uses of a V72 pre? Never used one. Would it make sense to get four of them? I'd start with a pair and if you love the tone, get a couple more! Its definitely an awesome flavor to have available- up to you if you decide you want it to be a more integral part of your overall sound.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 26, 2019 0:33:11 GMT -6
Plus the WT-72 can take line level signals, so you can strap them across the 2-bus if you like what they do there.
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Post by swafford on Feb 26, 2019 3:41:24 GMT -6
Plus the WT-72 can take line level signals, so you can strap them across the 2-bus if you like what they do there. Or drive it with another preamp.
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Post by Ward on Feb 26, 2019 6:37:43 GMT -6
I have a pair of the compressors. I usually use them on mono sources too, but have used them in stereo on acoustic. Cool, man. Thanks for sharing that. I love a Mu comp on violin or viola. Takes some of the pain away. So does a Royer.
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Post by swafford on Feb 26, 2019 8:07:17 GMT -6
Cool, man. Thanks for sharing that. I love a Mu comp on violin or viola. Takes some of the pain away. So does a Royer. lol, indeed. I use an AEA44 or Stager SR3, but still. One woman that comes over, great player - 1st violin section of the Cincinnati SO - has a 18th century viola that is so guttural, it will make you sh!t your pants. The AEA/CA-70/WT Comp combo just settles it right down and lets all that harmonic richness (that you'd probably only hear if you were at the back of a cathedral) shine through. Shiver me timbers!
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Post by Ward on Feb 26, 2019 8:22:33 GMT -6
lol, indeed. I use an AEA44 or Stager SR3, but still. One woman that comes over, great player - 1st violin section of the Cincinnati SO - has a 18th century viola that is so guttural, it will make you sh!t your pants. The AEA/CA-70/WT Comp combo just settles it right down and lets all that harmonic richness (that you'd probably only hear if you were at the back of a cathedral) shine through. Shiver me timbers! I think we're on the same wavelength here. Different ribbons give extraorinarily different results too. My ribbons include a 1942 RCA44, an AEA44, AEA84, Fostex M80, Samar VL37 pair, Royer 121 and others... and out of all of them, NOTHING tames and sweetens a violin or fiddle (yes, there is a difference, its the bridge and a couple other things) like a Royer R121.
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Post by swafford on Feb 26, 2019 8:39:21 GMT -6
lol, indeed. I use an AEA44 or Stager SR3, but still. One woman that comes over, great player - 1st violin section of the Cincinnati SO - has a 18th century viola that is so guttural, it will make you sh!t your pants. The AEA/CA-70/WT Comp combo just settles it right down and lets all that harmonic richness (that you'd probably only hear if you were at the back of a cathedral) shine through. Shiver me timbers! I think we're on the same wavelength here. Different ribbons give extraorinarily different results too. My ribbons include a 1942 RCA44, an AEA44, AEA84, Fostex M80, Samar VL37 pair, Royer 121 and others... and out of all of them, NOTHING tames and sweetens a violin or fiddle (yes, there is a difference, its the bridge and a couple other things) like a Royer R121. Don't own a 121. 122v, which does ok at a distance tends to get harsh in the mids on most bowed things, my go to on acoustic guitar. One thing the viola lady taught me was how different positions relative to the position of the viola (or violin, cello, bass) can accentuate different frequencies. That was pretty revelatory for me. I grew up around fiddles; classically trained people, while obviously talented, are a totally different mind set to start with and took me some getting used to play with and then record. She's "square bow or round bow" and I'm "play the damn thing." She's a treat.
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Post by iamasound on Feb 28, 2019 10:33:29 GMT -6
I think we're on the same wavelength here. Different ribbons give extraorinarily different results too. My ribbons include a 1942 RCA44, an AEA44, AEA84, Fostex M80, Samar VL37 pair, Royer 121 and others... and out of all of them, NOTHING tames and sweetens a violin or fiddle (yes, there is a difference, its the bridge and a couple other things) like a Royer R121. Don't own a 121. 122v, which does ok at a distance tends to get harsh in the mids on most bowed things, my go to on acoustic guitar. One thing the viola lady taught me was how different positions relative to the position of the viola (or violin, cello, bass) can accentuate different frequencies. That was pretty revelatory for me. I grew up around fiddles; classically trained people, while obviously talented, are a totally different mind set to start with and took me some getting used to play with and then record. She's "square bow or round bow" and I'm "play the damn thing." She's a treat. Something neat that I saw a couple of years ago just about what you're talking about. There are other posters for different instruments.
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Post by drbill on Feb 28, 2019 10:52:07 GMT -6
Fiddle overdubs here the last few days. I had my ribbons ready - RCA77DX and MJ modded 205's - but I never even listened to them. I ended up using an RMS M269 into the ZOD ID tube DI driven fairly hard, into the WT72 driven lightly, into an LA2a with 2-4dB compression into PTHDX. Luscious, warm, syrupy yet defined sound. I could still get the "edge" of the bow, but the sound was wonderfully big and sweet without any of the traditional close mic'd harshness that fiddle can bring. Perfect for the southern bluesy thing I was after.
I think I have found my new de-facto standard fiddle chain....
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Post by javamad on Mar 1, 2019 3:46:53 GMT -6
I just checked for this brand in the UK dealer. The WR-72 is not there yet but they do have the Weight Tank Compressor but at the eye-watering price of £999 .... which is $1,323!! That is almost a 50% markup. We really do get fleeced in the EU
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 1, 2019 7:09:50 GMT -6
I just checked for this brand in the UK dealer. The WR-72 is not there yet but they do have the Weight Tank Compressor but at the eye-watering price of £999 .... which is $1,323!! That is almost a 50% markup. We really do get fleeced in the EU The price is £832.50 (ex VAT). If you are a professional, you don't pay VAT (or get it reimbursed). That's around $1,100, as opposed to $899 by buying direct. I don't think it's an unfair price, considering the store has a business to run and needs to pay to get the items shipped + customs.
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Post by Ward on Mar 1, 2019 7:53:36 GMT -6
I just checked for this brand in the UK dealer. The WR-72 is not there yet but they do have the Weight Tank Compressor but at the eye-watering price of £999 .... which is $1,323!! That is almost a 50% markup. We really do get fleeced in the EU Don't worry, soon you'll be out of the EU and things will get 'better'.
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Post by javamad on Mar 1, 2019 8:37:22 GMT -6
I just checked for this brand in the UK dealer. The WR-72 is not there yet but they do have the Weight Tank Compressor but at the eye-watering price of £999 .... which is $1,323!! That is almost a 50% markup. We really do get fleeced in the EU Don't worry, soon you'll be out of the EU and things will get 'better'. Actually, I am in Ireland! :-) ... I just buy from the UK cos Ireland is not a big enough market to have decent gear stores. A few have tried but gone now. For me its Thomann in Germany or a couple of places in the UK I use regularly.
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Post by Ward on Mar 1, 2019 8:56:26 GMT -6
Aw gotcha!! I'm on my third wife from Galway. I don't learn easily. Hope you're enjoying your winter summer whilst we all freeze over here.
And yeah, Thomann is a great option!
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 6, 2019 7:26:43 GMT -6
Anyone try the WT72 next to something more expensive like the Tab Funkenwerk V78M, Mercury V72, or an original? I have the Tab, which is awesome, but the price of these guys is pretty great. So I’m curious.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 6, 2019 7:32:32 GMT -6
Anyone try the WT72 next to something more expensive like the Tab Funkenwerk V78M, Mercury V72, or an original? I have the Tab, which is awesome, but the price of these guys is pretty great. So I’m curious. I haven't, but I'm using it for vocals on a punk record right now and it's sounding great. Flea47 > WT-72 > slamming compression (20dB in spots) on the Weight Tank Comp. Sounds like a record out of the gate.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 6, 2019 7:56:45 GMT -6
Anyone try the WT72 next to something more expensive like the Tab Funkenwerk V78M, Mercury V72, or an original? I have the Tab, which is awesome, but the price of these guys is pretty great. So I’m curious. I haven't, but I'm using it for vocals on a punk record right now and it's sounding great. Flea47 > WT-72 > slamming compression (20dB in spots) on the Weight Tank Comp. Sounds like a record out of the gate. It’s hard to make the FleA 47 sound bad... it would have to really not work with the voice. Nice chain.
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Post by drbill on Jul 6, 2019 9:46:12 GMT -6
Anyone try the WT72 next to something more expensive like the Tab Funkenwerk V78M, Mercury V72, or an original? I have the Tab, which is awesome, but the price of these guys is pretty great. So I’m curious. I have not done direct A/B comparisons, but the WT's are solid.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 6, 2019 21:58:42 GMT -6
Anyone try the WT72 next to something more expensive like the Tab Funkenwerk V78M, Mercury V72, or an original? I have the Tab, which is awesome, but the price of these guys is pretty great. So I’m curious. For the price, you should at least try it out. Its a wonderful piece on lots of sources.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 22:00:31 GMT -6
i wish they did 1U rack space preamp like stams v72/v76 instead of bigger 3-4u space. i hate big bulky preamps. thats the only con, otherwise super well priced for what it do? how do you guys like it?
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 12, 2019 22:13:01 GMT -6
Well, it's a 2u unit....
Not ideal, but not 3 or 4u like some gear
I agree, I hate 3u stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 22:15:32 GMT -6
Well, it's a 2u unit.... Not ideal, but not 3 or 4u like some gear I agree, I hate 3u stuff all my gear is 1u racks and i like the look and will keep it that way, so its more compact setup. i got like 7-8units
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 12, 2019 22:31:51 GMT -6
all my gear is 1u racks and i like the look and will keep it that way, so its more compact setup. i got like 7-8units Im generally more interested in the way my gear sounds than looks, though the WT-72 does look really sharp. Regardless, its doubtful a more esoteric schematic and pre design like this would fit in a 1U. Its an amazing pre thats worth the extra 2" of rack space.
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