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Post by aremos on Oct 28, 2018 12:11:15 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 28, 2018 12:24:35 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
I like the Phoenix Audio preamps. If I was looking for an 8 channel unit, I would consider theirs.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2018 12:30:10 GMT -6
On the high end, there's always the RND RMP-D8 or a 500 rack with 8 VP28 Platinums...yummy
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Post by stormymondays on Oct 28, 2018 12:46:37 GMT -6
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Post by aremos on Oct 28, 2018 13:33:01 GMT -6
Where in the US can you get the DAV BG8?
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Post by ericn on Oct 28, 2018 13:51:57 GMT -6
Where in the US can you get the DAV BG8? Order direct, also check out Line Audio very clean very cheap.
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Post by Tbone81 on Oct 28, 2018 14:25:37 GMT -6
Audient Asp 800 and 880 are great sounding and a great bang for buck investment. Might not be quite as euphoric as a Neve or CAPI front end, but it’s not hurting your audio at all (or your wallet)
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Post by Ward on Oct 28, 2018 17:47:41 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
Save a pile of dough and buy a pair of Focusrite 428 Mark 1s. They can stand up against almost anything.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 28, 2018 17:55:40 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
Save a pile of dough and buy a pair of Focusrite 428 Mark 1s. They can stand up against almost anything. You can cook an egg on them, but yeah, not bad for a utilitarian preamps.
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Post by kijiji on Oct 28, 2018 18:15:21 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
Out of the ones mention the Focusrite and the True System are cleaner and more robust. I'd track with Focusrite 828s before tracking with copies of API... Daryl's House episodes are tracked through 40 inputs of Focusrite 828.
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Post by seawell on Oct 28, 2018 19:07:37 GMT -6
They don't come up for sale too often but I always enjoyed having a Shadow Hills Gama 8 for this application.
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Post by ericn on Oct 28, 2018 21:00:38 GMT -6
Well 4 Dan Alexander 2 ch Neve 1272 reproduction with real Neve Transformers here always puts a smile on my face😁
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 28, 2018 22:07:14 GMT -6
Have you looked at the Grace m802? Or M108?
can't really beat their pre amps for super clean gain and the built in conversion is very very good.
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Post by Ward on Oct 29, 2018 6:23:01 GMT -6
Save a pile of dough and buy a pair of Focusrite 428 Mark 1s. They can stand up against almost anything. You can cook an egg on them, but yeah, not bad for a utilitarian preamps. Mine never ever get that hot. Is that supposed to be the norm with them? And I find them interchangeable with certain API pre's too. Not the exact same midrange, but very very usable. Just slightly more Neve -ish.
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Post by bigbone on Oct 29, 2018 6:31:43 GMT -6
2X Daking IV preamp.!!!!
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Post by sirthought on Oct 29, 2018 6:50:59 GMT -6
I use the ASP800 and like it really well.
I have worked with Yamaha digital consoles and never had issues with the sound really. I'd imagine that box is clean.
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Post by Omicron9 on Oct 29, 2018 9:47:52 GMT -6
I've owned the True Systems pre. Incredibly problematic; I sent it back to True 3 or 4 times. Would do things like shut down (not from thermal issues) when tracking, or the front panel lights would go out, but still pass signal, or crackling static in the output. Just all around bad. I've spoken to two other True owners, and they've experienced the same front panel shenanigans.
A couple of suggestions:
1. Save your cash and get a Millennia HV-3D. Super clean and transparent; my fave preamp ever (for whatever that's worth). 2. Get a pair of the 4-ch. Syteks. Very clean, very reliable.
Or did I boneheadedly misunderstand and you're seeking an 8-ch pre w/onboard conversion? If so, never mind!
Happy hunting! -09
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 29, 2018 17:01:55 GMT -6
You can cook an egg on them, but yeah, not bad for a utilitarian preamps. Mine never ever get that hot. Is that supposed to be the norm with them? And I find them interchangeable with certain API pre's too. Not the exact same midrange, but very very usable. Just slightly more Neve -ish. I have owned two separate 428 units in the past and they both ran extremely hot, but never had a problem with them. They were solid units for several years, sold both of them and reaped a good return.
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Post by ericn on Oct 30, 2018 6:55:42 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with any of the following or any other suggestion: Audient ASP8xx Focusrite ISA 828 Yamaha MLA8
True Systems Precision 8
(For vox & acoustic stuff I have Avalon 2022's & BAE 1073's)
Save a pile of dough and buy a pair of Focusrite 428 Mark 1s. They can stand up against almost anything. The only knock on the 428 is it can be a bit boring, in a good way. People always hear Rupert Neve designed and think 1072, 1081, 1272, and that colors expectations. Next to each other I always prefer original made in England Blue Series to the newer made in China, even blind I hear it and swear they made some major change in components and transformers, this also might be the factor in the heat as well.
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Post by Ward on Oct 30, 2018 7:56:45 GMT -6
ericn, the ONLY ones I promote are the 428 MARK 1s, made in England. The Mark 2 isn't even close to it, and I believe the 828 is based on the 428 Mark 2. The 4 impendence settings and variable HPF and do a remarkable job of varying the tone offerings.
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Post by aremos on Oct 30, 2018 7:58:46 GMT -6
Impressed with the British-Decca made DAV BG pre & the Sweedish made Line Audio also. Have never bought without really trying something but for those of you that recommended these can you elaborate a little more. Leaning towards these 2. For the price it's sort of a no-brainer as I've seen they compete with the "highest end" pres.
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Post by ericn on Oct 30, 2018 8:09:51 GMT -6
Impressed with the British-Decca made DAV BG pre & the Sweedish made Line Audio also. Have never bought without really trying something but for those of you that recommended these can you elaborate a little more. Leaning towards these 2. For the price it's sort of a no-brainer as I've seen they compete with the "highest end" pres. Tag Plush, he was always the big DAV guy, try to find some of the old Decca classical recordings to get an idea of the sound. They have some good notes on the recordings and the Absolute Sound and Stereophile have even better articles on what was used. I suggested the Line Audio blind, but people I respect have always said it’s the best budget Classical/ acoustic clean stuff out there.
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Post by ericn on Oct 30, 2018 8:14:52 GMT -6
ericn, the ONLY ones I promote are the 428 MARK 1s, made in England. The Mark 2 isn't even close to it, and I believe the 828 is based on the 428 Mark 2. The 4 impendence settings and variable HPF and do a remarkable job of varying the tone offerings. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure we put it out there the Mark 2 isn’t the same thing, I know a lot of guys who have bought the newer Focusrite and been very disappointed because they believed their sales guy, who didn’t know or drank the koolaid !
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Post by Omicron9 on Oct 30, 2018 9:55:44 GMT -6
Impressed with the British-Decca made DAV BG pre & the Sweedish made Line Audio also. Have never bought without really trying something but for those of you that recommended these can you elaborate a little more. Leaning towards these 2. For the price it's sort of a no-brainer as I've seen they compete with the "highest end" pres. I owned a 4-ch DAV pre for a couple of years. My experience as follows. When the first one arrived, I could hear parts rattling around inside the unit. There was no impact marks or damage on the shipping carton, so it didn't get physically damaged in shipping. I spoke with Mick at DAV, and he instructed me to send it back at once. I did, and when the second one arrived, it had no rattles. Installed it in the rack, and it sagged. Difficult to explain: the unit was on a slant in the rack, like the chassis was too flimsy to support its weight, and it's not a heavy unit. I had to add wood blocks under the back of it it to prop it up so that it was level in the rack. It is not a transparent pre, but in this case, that's not a bad thing. I did like the kind of gentle syrup it added to the sound. It rounded things off and made for a more finished or smoother sound than something like a Millennia. A bit softer sounding, which can be good in some places. For the record, I prefer pres that add or change as little as possible, but again, I did like the DAV as an alternative. The death knell for me was the self-noise. Too hissy when recording solo or chamber works. I can still to this day hear which tracks went through the DAV because of the hiss. To be fair, it wasn't overwhelming, but it was noisier than a Sytek or Millennia, and at the same gain staging and levels. I found that I was using it less and less due to the noise and sold it. Maybe I had a bad unit. I don't know; I've not heard other DAV users mention the self-noise. Just my experience with it. -09
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Post by aremos on Oct 30, 2018 11:11:11 GMT -6
Thanks for the heads up on the DAV. I think it's the first "negative" I encounter on this pre.
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